Should we pull out of Afghanistan?
We've been in Afghanistan since '01, and there's no end in sight. I'm undecided on if we should pull out so, I would like to hear some arguments for each side.
Spare us the conspiracy theories that we just want to control the opium production of the world. unless you have concrete evidence to back that up.
Otherwise it seems we are attempting to stabilize a region with demographic and geographic challenges. Maybe the U.S.S.R. has already tried and learned that it cannot be done. What do you think?
Ultimately, what is best for the Afghani people?
The talk I heard while eating lunch on thew news was that we were going to try to pressure the Taliban militarily to get them to come to the negotiating table with the hope of reaching some sort of settlement. Not sure what that would look like, but included the Taliban in its objective.A stable Afghan government not plagued by the Taliban would likely be able to handle such warlords themselves.
Forever is a long time.Especially towards the end.
But not every occupation. We will be in Afghanistan forever
Forever is a long time.Especially towards the end.
If G.W. Bush had stayed out of Iraq (Which was no threat to the USA.) and concentrated on Afghanistan the kerfuffle there could have been finished a long time ago.
Just sayin'.
Who knows what will be going on there 50 or 100 years from now?
I don't give a rat's ass about the Afghani people, but we should stay. The cold, hard fact is...if the Taliban regain control of that country we will have another 9/11-level terror attack along with increased lower level attacks.
I care about Americans.
.If that line of logic were true, then Obama should have been able to get it finished when he pulled out of Iraq, yet here we are
Should we pull out of Afghanistan?
We've been in Afghanistan since '01, and there's no end in sight. I'm undecided on if we should pull out so, I would like to hear some arguments for each side.
Spare us the conspiracy theories that we just want to control the opium production of the world. unless you have concrete evidence to back that up.
Otherwise it seems we are attempting to stabilize a region with demographic and geographic challenges. Maybe the U.S.S.R. has already tried and learned that it cannot be done. What do you think?
Ultimately, what is best for the Afghani people?
There's a Good Reason why The Russians isn't still pouring their resources into the ****hole anymore
We've been in North Korea from the 1940's with 30,000 troops
China and Russia are involved in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Afghanistan is a stragetic route to the Arabian Sea, coveted by Russia needing warm water ports, and China trying to expand its global footprint and to secure trade access into Europe - one way or another. Pakistan is in an eternal face off with India, is in danger on capitulating to the Taliban, and has nukes.
Not to mention we don't need China setting up Pakistan as a proxy state to threaten India like they have with North Korea. China will continue developing the use of proxy states to check US foreign interests if we don't challenge them.
One benefit the Chinese and Russians have in the "Stan's" is cultural. If you want to rape little boys, neither the Russians nor Chinese will object. It's cultural, and China and Russia are there for resources and influence, nothing more. The USA tries to exert moral authority, and that chafes at tribal chiefs who are just happy as clams remaining in the twelfth century. Great place for men like them.
Damned if we do and damned if we don't. Some reports have Russia arming the Taliban, and neighboring Iran and Pakistan arm/support their respective cadres of religious militia/martyrs.
The US has already expended tremendous assets in blood and treasure and we're right back where we started ... 90% of the country is ruled by the fundamental Taliban, brutal warlords, and opium smugglers.
The Kabul governments are corrupt and a bottomless money pit. The tribal culture of Pashtunwali rules, abetted by Sharia law. Slavery exists and women are often considered as property and chattel.
On the other hand, we cannot allow a failed-sanctuary-state where poppy crops bankroll the global terrorist plots of radical organizations such as the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Islamic State, Lashkar-e-Taiba, and others.
Afghanistan is the perfect crucible of a lose/lose situation.
Should we pull out of Afghanistan?
We've been in Afghanistan since '01, and there's no end in sight. I'm undecided on if we should pull out so, I would like to hear some arguments for each side.
Spare us the conspiracy theories that we just want to control the opium production of the world. unless you have concrete evidence to back that up.
Otherwise it seems we are attempting to stabilize a region with demographic and geographic challenges. Maybe the U.S.S.R. has already tried and learned that it cannot be done. What do you think?
Ultimately, what is best for the Afghani people?
Damned if we do and damned if we don't. Some reports have Russia arming the Taliban, and neighboring Iran and Pakistan arm/support their respective cadres of religious militia/martyrs.
The US has already expended tremendous assets in blood and treasure and we're right back where we started ... 90% of the country is ruled by the fundamental Taliban, brutal warlords, and opium smugglers.
The Kabul governments are corrupt and a bottomless money pit. The tribal culture of Pashtunwali rules, abetted by Sharia law. Slavery exists and women are often considered as property and chattel.
On the other hand, we cannot allow a failed-sanctuary-state where poppy crops bankroll the global terrorist plots of radical organizations such as the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Islamic State, Lashkar-e-Taiba, and others.
Afghanistan is the perfect crucible of a lose/lose situation.
Leave it to Pakistan, Iran and China.
Iran nearly went to war with the Taliban. Pakistan is just a hair away from being a failed State.
Let the Sunni- Shia nutcases fight and kill each other.
Why didnt Obama end the kerfuffle?If G.W. Bush had stayed out of Iraq (Which was no threat to the USA.) and concentrated on Afghanistan the kerfuffle there could have been finished a long time ago.
Just sayin'.
Wrong.What I meant was that if the troops sent to Iraq had went to Afghanistan that place could have been cleaned out quickly.