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How important of an issue is abortion for you?

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  • Abortion is a very important issue for me.

    Votes: 6 24.0%

  • Abortion is important to me, but not thr biggest issue.

    Votes: 2 8.0%

  • Abortion is an issue for me, but is just one of severL.

    Votes: 7 28.0%

  • Abortion is not very important to me.

    Votes: 4 16.0%

  • I have no real concern about abortion.

    Votes: 2 8.0%

  • Other (Please Explain)

    Votes: 2 8.0%

  • My cat's name is mittens.

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • Total voters
    25
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Simple Question: How important of an issue is abortion for you?
 
Not on my radar screen. I'm never going to become pregnant so it's none of my business.
You guys sort it out.
 
It's of moderate importance to me. My wife had to abort an ectopic pregnancy in the past, and I'm glad she didn't have to jump through a bunch of stupid hoops to do it. I don't expect my wife and I will ever need one again since I've had a vasectomy, but it's nice to have the option if the vasectomy spontaneously reverses itself.

I also have two daughter, and although I intend for them to learn safe sex practices, I have personal experience with birth control failing to work as advertised. So it's nice that they'll have the option if the same thing happens to them at a young age.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Simple Question: How important of an issue is abortion for you?
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It's quite important to me, but I do have a few other issues I'd consider of comparable importance.

Support for choice is not enough to swing me, but a stance against it is enough to dissuade me.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
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well the first thought in my head is compared to what?

Abortion is important to me because rights and human rights are important to me.

But since currently human rights and rights are basically protected I dont worry about it to much. While many people against those rights or people who value other rights they feel are more important than a woman's are always trying to attack abortion, most of the time very dishonestly makes it a concern I dont think its a huge deal because they will NEVER win. They will try to chip away at it and they will have small victories here and there but they will NEVER win. Banning abortion is more a 2nd and 3rd world think in countries where there are no rights and freedoms, it has no place in the vast majority of first world countries with freedoms.

I dont like some of the battles that rights lose against but typically they are temporary and not really a threat so its hard for me to make abortion a top order. If it was in real danger it would become more important.
 
I'm only alive today because my mother strongly believed that abortion was immoral. She was 16 when she was pregnant with me and both her father and my biological father were pressuring her into having an abortion. Having been so terribly close to being killed before ever making it out of the womb has pretty much made me adamantly pro-Life.
 
Abortion is a contentious issue. Both sides are overly stubborn, and unwilling to bend. The one side wants to use abortion like Birth Control. The other side refuses to take into consideration, the Life of the Mother and the issue of Rape. I will let the sides continue to fight it out, and I'll sit on the sidelines. I do not let abortion dictate how I vote. There are too many important topics that are being overlooked because of this contentious issue.
 
Media_Truth said:
Abortion is a contentious issue. Both sides are overly stubborn, and unwilling to bend. The one side wants to use abortion like Birth Control. The other side refuses to take into consideration, the Life of the Mother and the issue of Rape. I will let the sides continue to fight it out, and I'll sit on the sidelines. I do not let abortion dictate how I vote. There are too many important topics that are being overlooked because of this contentious issue.
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Most Pro-Life people I know of aren't against cases that endanger the life of the mother.

It is basically an argument of when does a person gain rights. For Pro-Life people it is at conception and for the Pro-Choice side it is a different stages for different people, some at viability others up until the moment of birth. Pro-Life see abortion as murder and Pro-Choice see it as the government intruding on a woman's body so both sides are typically going to be rather obstinate in their views.
 
I voted "other".

It is important to me that any person have the ability to decide his or her own health related decisions.

That really is not an abortion issue.

It is a issue that should pertain to men and women.
 
Its important enough that I won't vote for any politician who supports the legalization of abortion on demand.
 
Nap said:
I'm only alive today because my mother strongly believed that abortion was immoral. She was 16 when she was pregnant with me and both her father and my biological father were pressuring her into having an abortion. Having been so terribly close to being killed before ever making it out of the womb has pretty much made me adamantly pro-Life.
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Food for thought: the sorts of societies that don't think women have the right to control their bodies are the same sorts of societies that sometimes don't think girls have a right to defy their family.

Just something to ponder.
 
Nap said:
Most Pro-Life people I know of aren't against cases that endanger the life of the mother.

It is basically an argument of when does a person gain rights. For Pro-Life people it is at conception and for the Pro-Choice side it is a different stages for different people, some at viability others up until the moment of birth. Pro-Life see abortion as murder and Pro-Choice see it as the government intruding on a woman's body so both sides are typically going to be rather obstinate in their views.
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Yet the latest bill that went before the House and Senate, had no provision for the health of the mother. So you may not be stubborn, but somebody is...
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Food for thought: the sorts of societies that don't think women have the right to control their bodies are the same sorts of societies that sometimes don't think girls have a right to defy their family.

Just something to ponder.
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You mean like how prostitution and drugs are illegal in the US? You seem to be under the illusion that the US government doesn't already have control over their bodies.
 
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Media_Truth said:
Yet the latest bill that went before the House and Senate, had no provision for the health of the mother. So you may not be stubborn, but somebody is...
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Do you have a link to that? All the search results keep coming up with the Texas Bill stuff.
 
It is important to me personally. I do not want any of my children to be aborted.

Beyond that it is not my concern. Each family needs to make and live with their own choices.
 
Nap said:
You mean like how prostitution and drugs are illegal in the US? You seem to be under the illusion that the US government doesn't already have control over their bodies.
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So your solution is to make the problem even worse and increase the odds that people like your mother won't get any choice in the future (no society ever gets rid of abortion no matter what its laws say, it just becomes easier for powerful people to decide when and how)...? Gee, how clever.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
So your solution is to make the problem even worse and increase the odds that people like your mother won't get any choice in the future (no society ever gets rid of abortion no matter what its laws say, it just becomes easier for powerful people to decide when and how)...? Gee, how clever.
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For some taking an innocent life is not a choice, except for under the most dire circumstances.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Simple Question: How important of an issue is abortion for you?
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Personally abortion is a moot argument. I got my wires clipped years ago. (Don't believe that crap about you'll hardly notice you had it done, only slight pain. I was out of work for 3 days with a bag of frozen peas on my nuts.)

If they make me King Risky tomorrow (at present that ain't looking very likely) I would leave the issue to American women to decide via a national referendum - eligible women voters only. Whatever women voters decided I'd sign it into law.

As a man I support a woman's right to decide what to do with her own body. I view it as a right and I support freedom of choice.

Please, no religious and/or other expressions of disagreement as I am not here to argue abortion and I won't.
 
Media_Truth said:
Yet the latest bill that went before the House and Senate, had no provision for the health of the mother. So you may not be stubborn, but somebody is...
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I'm not sure this is the latest bill that was referred to in an interview I heard. But this is one such bill. This Nebraska bill was ruled unconstitutional by a Nebraska court and the US Supreme court. This bill did have an exception for a late-term abortion, if the mother's life was in danger, but it did not take into consideration, the health of the mother. The Supreme Court found this in contradiction with the previous Casey case.

The Supreme Court . The Future of the Court . Landmark Cases . Stenberg v. Carhart (2000) | PBS

The Supreme Court, in a 5-4 decision written by Justice Stephen Breyer, affirmed the lower court's decisions and ruled that Nebraska's ban on "partial birth" abortions was unconstitutional. The Court argued that the statute directly violated the Court's decision in Casey v. Planned Parenthood (1992) on two grounds. First, the ban on "partial birth" abortions, meaning D&X and possibly all D&E procedures, lacked an exception to preserve "the health of the mother." Casey ruled that the state may ban "post-viability" abortions, or abortions performed after the point at which the fetus can live outside the womb (with aid of medical technology or otherwise), but must provide an exception "for the life and health of the mother." Moreover, Nebraska's law banned abortion practices prior to fetal viability, when the Court forbids states from banning abortions and permits fewer state regulations. The health exception requirement for postviability abortions, "at minimum requires the same in respect to pre-viability abortions" (emphasis added). The Court concluded that because D&E and D&X have been proven safer than other types of second-trimester abortions in preserving the woman's health, any law that bans these procedures without providing a health exception is clearly unconstitutional.
 
Nap said:
Do you have a link to that? All the search results keep coming up with the Texas Bill stuff.
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OK, this is what I had heard. If you recall, in the presidential debates, Hillary Clinton said that, while a Senator, she voted against the Partial Birth Abortion ban in 2003, because it had no exception for the health of the mother. Turns out that this was the exact stance of the Supreme Court. This went on to pass, and was signed into law. It was later challenged in the Gonzales vs Carhart case, and went all the way to the Supreme court. Here is the Supreme Court's decision "Health of the Mother" section. The Supreme Court upheld the law, but also said that it could be challenged, in the case of the Mother's health.

https://www.oyez.org/cases/2006/05-380

The Court left open the possibility that an as-applied challenge could be brought against the Act if it were ever applied in a situation in which an intact D&E was necessary to preserve a woman's health.
 
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