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Is Trump a racist- bigot?

Is Trump a racist- bigot?

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JANFU said:
Feel free to post your evidence to back your position.
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No one needs to post evidence that Trump ISNT a bigot or racist. That burden rests upon those who claim he is. If you think he is, then you give evidence that meets the definitional requirements of the words. If you cant, then he isn't. Period.
 
Manc Skipper said:
You could take as an example that he has spent his presidency so far focused on undoing every single thing that Obama has done, no matter how small. Everything he does seems to be fixated toward doing the opposite of Obama.
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Which proves what?
 
Fletch said:
No one needs to post evidence that Trump ISNT a bigot or racist. That burden rests upon those who claim he is. If you think he is, then you give evidence that meets the definitional requirements of the words. If you cant, then he isn't. Period.
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Was i asking you?
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
I genuinely don't know, and I don't think we ever will. My best guess is that he simply panders.

I don't think Trump has any real beliefs about anything. I think he will go with literally anything that he thinks will get people to pay attention to him, or say nice things about him. As far as I can tell, the only thing Trump has ever genuinely cared about is money and publicity.

Racists give him compliments, so he supports racists.

Putin gives him compliments, so he supports Putin.

I really don't believe Trump cares about abortion or LGBT at all. But because anti-choice and anti-LGBT people give him compliments, he has suddenly come out against them after decades of seeming total ambivalence.

And despite the fact that Trump seems to be totally fine with having Jewish family and spending time with people of any race as long as they bring him money, he is supporting racists and anti-Semites because they give him compliments.

I think that Trump just truly doesn't have any ethical core at all. He's just an empty shell.
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IMHO, the sculpture stays, information as to why and who funded(KKK) the initial construction, that and information on the Civil War.
Statues can fit in a museum, this cannot.
 
JANFU said:
Was i asking you?
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Who cares if you were? Its a public forum. If you don't want people responding to your nonsense, don't post it. But I will take your non response as an inability to make a coherent reply to my point, though.
 
Fletch said:
Who cares if you were? Its a public forum. If you don't want people responding to your nonsense, don't post it. But I will take your non response as an inability to make a coherent reply to my point, though.
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Good then, I shall ignore you.
 
JANFU said:
Is Trump a racist- bigot?

We have seen the comments, enough where many have come to an opinion.
Seems we have been dancing around this.
I am still undecided

Bigot Yes - Pls explain

Bigot No - Pls explain

Unsure - Pls explain

Racist Yes - Pls explain

Racist No - Pls explain

Unsure – Pls explain

I agree with Trumps comments -Pls explain

Comments were pandering to his base - Pls explain

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot



https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism
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If you look at his history he is however the wind blows. You can't call him anything at any given moment. He's a flip flopper.
 
JANFU said:
Good then, I shall ignore you.
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What choice do you have? When you cant respond intelligently, your best alternative is to not respond at all
 
JANFU said:
IMHO, the sculpture stays, information as to why and who funded(KKK) the initial construction, that and information on the Civil War.
Statues can fit in a museum, this cannot.
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I think you got the wrong thread. :lol:
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Yes you are right. There are so many people so happy to see that crooked Hillary was beat!
All she does now is wonder the woods and work on writing her silly book. President Trump will
be the president for 4 years and people will just have to get used to that fact!!
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I wouldn't bet the singlewide on that if I was you.
 
Carleen said:
If you look at his history he is however the wind blows. You can't call him anything at any given moment. He's a flip flopper.
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I don't think Trump has any firm positions or ideology. I seems that with most issues, he has never given them any thought whatsoever. Now as president, though, he has to take a stand on issues and he could literally fall on every side and no side at the same time. For example, with regard to health care, he will sign whatever the republicans send to him. If dems win control of congress, Trump will sign whatever the dems send to him. In either case, you could be certain that Trump would never bother to read whatever it was that awaited his signature.
 
Fletch said:
I don't think Trump has any firm positions or ideology. I seems that with most issues, he has never given them any thought whatsoever. Now as president, though, he has to take a stand on issues and he could literally fall on every side and no side at the same time. For example, with regard to health care, he will sign whatever the republicans send to him. If dems win control of congress, Trump will sign whatever the dems send to him. In either case, you could be certain that Trump would never bother to read whatever it was that awaited his signature.
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You get this guy!
 
According to the definition given......

Every single person on this forum is a bigot, and so is Donald Trump.

A racist... not so much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K1-nzxzzug

Racists don't get Lifetime Awards for helping the African American community and praise from Civil Rights leaders over and over.
 
JANFU said:
Is Trump a racist- bigot?

We have seen the comments, enough where many have come to an opinion.
Seems we have been dancing around this.
I am still undecided

Bigot Yes - Pls explain

Bigot No - Pls explain

Unsure - Pls explain

Racist Yes - Pls explain

Racist No - Pls explain

Unsure – Pls explain

I agree with Trumps comments -Pls explain

Comments were pandering to his base - Pls explain

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot



https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism
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Bigot no. I have seen zero evidence that he is bigoted toward any concept or group or demographic or person.

Racist no. I have seen zero evidence that he is racist in any way.

Agree with his concepts? Some yes. Some not so much.

Nor have I seen much, if any, pandering as he has remained pretty consistent in his core principles from the beginning. He does change his mind about how something needs to get accomplished but that is the manager and problem solver in him.

Of course those who hate him call it lying and they call him racist and a bigot without being able to show any evidence for that.

I wish your poll options had include whether we think he is politically correct. He isn't. And it is based on that and that alone that the haters use to call him bigot and/or racist.
 
Carleen said:
You get this guy!
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I know this wont happen, but if democrats were smart, Schumer and Pelosi would go to the White House with a proposal to fix the flaws in the ACA that would bring all democrats along, Trump would probably run with it and relentlessly trash republicans for not participating. Not sure how it would turn out but it would be fun to watch.
 
Fletch said:
I know this wont happen, but if democrats were smart, Schumer and Pelosi would go to the White House with a proposal to fix the flaws in the ACA that would bring all democrats along, Trump would probably run with it and relentlessly trash republicans for not participating. Not sure how it would turn out but it would be fun to watch.
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Yeah, it won't happen but I agree it would be fun!
 
He isn't racist but he knows how to incite white christian racists to be violent. Same with obama and BLM.
 
I think that as has been stated, no one knows what is in Trump's heart. But his statements and actions suggest he has various prejudices and acts on them. The list is long, and I respectfully ask those who disagree with the premise of Trump as a bigot to analyze/explain the following:

- record of housing discrimination
- birther stuff
- the Central Park Five ads
- complaints about black accountants; preferring Jews
- comments about Judge Curiel not being capable of fairness in Trump U case because his of Mexican descent
- spreading false information about black on white homicide

There's more, but I dont get how people can say all this adds up to nothing. At the very least, Trump is naive, careless, clueless about race and ignorant about its history in the US.

In general, I would be less concerned about his awkward comments about the demos last weekend than about other aspects of his record listed above and, say the actions taken by his AG, as in most cases the beliefs someone holds and even expresses don't matter as much as one's actions. But a president is different. One small incident haunts me: on a busy sidewalk in LA several months ago, there was a sandwich board poster set up that was critical of Trump, specifically listing his Mexican rapist comments. A Mexican-American mom and her little daughter came by. "What's that say, Momma?" Mom said something like, "Nothing, sweetie," grabbed her hand and moved on quickly.

Trump could end all of this, gain favor in the polls with a speech reminiscent of Jessie Jacksons Jewish slur apology, something like Bush's Muslim comments, or with a gesture similar to Obama's inviting for a beer the cop he said had done something stupid to a black professor. His positive tweet today about the Boston demonstration is a start, but it ain't nearly enough. Sadly, his never-back-down approach to life seems to inhibit him from turning things around. Americans easily give second chances if politicians will meet a controversy halfway.
 
Manc Skipper said:
You could take as an example that he has spent his presidency so far focused on undoing every single thing that Obama has done, no matter how small. Everything he does seems to be fixated toward doing the opposite of Obama.
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Well I can't disagree with that but again why does that have to be racism. I believe in today's politics most republicans elected would have did that besides maybe jeb and christie no matter who the president was. Say hilary won and Trump was after her, do you think he changes much? I don't.
 
Not racist or bigoted in the strict sense of the term, but possibly a white nationalist with xenophobic, anti-Muslim views. Frankly, he's more interested in glorifying himself and enriching his family and friends than he does about improving race relations or unifying the country. His travel ban proposal, threats to our Southern neighbor that they would pay for the wall, and expressed feelings about Muslims, Mexicans, and immigrants is indicidative of white nationalist ideology. His honest reaction to Charlottesville shows he has some level of sympathy for white nationalists.

Why argue the point? Trump is politically incorrect. That's one reason why his base supports him. And what does it really mean to be politically incorrect? Refer to the definition of political correctness to get some insight.
 
Meet the Press just had an interview with a man who apparently is a spokesperson for the racist whites who converged in Virginia and he was complaining that Trump wasn't a racist and that Trump allowed his beautiful daughter to marry a $))$%_# Jew. Sounds like the white supremacist movement isn't happy with President Trump
 
JANFU said:
Is Trump a racist- bigot?

We have seen the comments, enough where many have come to an opinion.
Seems we have been dancing around this.
I am still undecided

Bigot Yes - Pls explain

Bigot No - Pls explain

Unsure - Pls explain

Racist Yes - Pls explain

Racist No - Pls explain

Unsure – Pls explain

I agree with Trumps comments -Pls explain

Comments were pandering to his base - Pls explain

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot



https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism
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The only explanation is that the rabid left thinks everyone on the right, and even those on the left who voted for Trump are racists/bigots. They have lost all ability to conjure up any kind of an argument on anything so the only thing they have left is to label the other side as being all racists and bigots. That's why voters don't think Democrats stand for anything other than being anti-Trump. Rather sad really but I do realize they tried everything else and lost, leaving Republicans with the most power of any party since 1928.
 
Moderate Right said:
The only explanation is that the rabid left thinks everyone on the right, and even those on the left who voted for Trump are racists/bigots. They have lost all ability to conjure up any kind of an argument on anything so the only thing they have left is to label the other side as being all racists and bigots. That's why voters don't think Democrats stand for anything other than being anti-Trump. Rather sad really but I do realize they tried everything else and lost, leaving Republicans with the most power of any party since 1928.
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No, but a substantial number of White Supremacists/Neo Nazis did support and endorse trump.
Now be careful of the link as it has facts included.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...1/donald-trump-and-david-duke-for-the-record/
 
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