• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Which drugs should be legal?

Which drugs should be legal for recreational use?

  • tobacco

    Votes: 13 76.5%

  • marijuana

    Votes: 13 76.5%

  • cocaine

    Votes: 7 41.2%

  • LSD

    Votes: 9 52.9%

  • heroin

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • salvia divinorum

    Votes: 8 47.1%

  • ecstasy

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • dipt

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • dragonfly

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • say no to drugs

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • Total voters
    17
M

Masterhawk

DP Veteran
Joined
May 6, 2016
Messages
1,908
Reaction score
489
Location
Colorado
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
The issue right now is whether to legalize marijuana. However as we all know, there are others such as LSD, cocaine, and heroin. Most are well known but some drugs, not so much. Here is information about the less known kind below:

Salvia divinorum: is a bit akin to heroin but with shorter side effects. Is ingested similarly to weed

dipt: is a hallucinogenic drug but instead of causing user to see stuff, it causes them to hear stuff.

bromo dragonfly: similar to LSD but lasts 3 days as opposed to 12 hours

krokodil: just like heroin except cheaper. Also kills users after 2 years of usage



btw, if you select the last option, please don't select the other options
 
IMO ALL mind-altering substances should be legal for possession and use.

What should be illegal is any resulting harms to others and/or the property of others while on drugs.

If you were responsible enough to choose to do the drug, then you are equally responsible for what you do ON the drug.

What should also be illegal is the sale of debased drugs resulting in unexpected harm to the user.
 
Last edited:
Where the hell is psilocybin? th4N8WV3AN.jpg Up with the mushrooms, down with the man!
 
All of them ought to be legal. The government should have no say when it comes to putting things in your own body.
 
Captain Adverse said:
IMO ALL mind-altering substances should be legal for possession and use.

What should be illegal is any resulting harms to others and/or the property of others while on drugs.

If you were responsible enough to choose to do the drug, then you are equally responsible for what you do ON the drug.

What should also be illegal is the sale of debased drugs resulting in unexpected harm to the user.
Click to expand...

We cant even trust people to drive with alcohol in their system, heck in most areas you cant even walk the streets visibly drunk, and you think that people are going to be responsible when they are on drugs. The vast majority of people who use drugs are because they arent responsible people.

Im not talking about an ideal world or what should be. This would be an insane policy from a reality standpoint, not just the added risk to the general public which would be massive but the giant gray area between some who is obviously impaired but poses no harm vs someone who is about to cause harm.
 
PoS said:
All of them ought to be legal. The government should have no say when it comes to putting things in your own body.
Click to expand...

Although I agree w/ this sentiment, lets not bite off more than we can chew. I'll be cool w/ marijuana legalization/decriminalization for now, since that's still a pretty radical idea for most in our current government. :roll:
 
I believe natural plants like marijuana, mushrooms and peyote along with many others should be legal. Of course some plants are toxic and even deadly so people should know the difference. That comes from education.

Cocaine. It is not a natural plant it is a modified extract. The natural coca plant used by South American natives is not harmful like cocaine. I believe coca plants should be legal and it should replace cocaine entirely.

LSD. Well I did my share back in the day and I only had one bad trip but I survived it, lol. I learned a lot about myself using LSD. I believe it help me mature into a more caring person.

Heroin. It is so completely addictive that it is harmful and should be avoided except for the relieve of serious, serious pain and then only for a limited time. There are other methods of dealing with long term pain.

Tobacco. This is a really easy one. It should not be illegal but it should be educated against the use of. It is insidiously addictive. I know. I smoked for 20+ years and I feel lucky to have survived.
 
Lyndon'sJohnson said:
Although I agree w/ this sentiment, lets not bite off more than we can chew. I'll be cool w/ marijuana legalization/decriminalization for now, since that's still a pretty radical idea for most in our current government. :roll:
Click to expand...

Yeahh, don't think legal meth is a good idea....I don't know about that...
 
Fantôme said:
I believe natural plants like marijuana, mushrooms and peyote along with many others should be legal. Of course some plants are toxic and even deadly so people should know the difference. That comes from education.

Cocaine. It is not a natural plant it is a modified extract. The natural coca plant used by South American natives is not harmful like cocaine. I believe coca plants should be legal and it should replace cocaine entirely.

LSD. Well I did my share back in the day and I only had one bad trip but I survived it, lol. I learned a lot about myself using LSD. I believe it help me mature into a more caring person.

Heroin. It is so completely addictive that it is harmful and should be avoided except for the relieve of serious, serious pain and then only for a limited time. There are other methods of dealing with long term pain.

Tobacco. This is a really easy one. It should not be illegal but it should be educated against the use of. It is insidiously addictive. I know. I smoked for 20+ years and I feel lucky to have survived.
Click to expand...

Me and psilocybin are co travelers from an old, long road. Just an observer and an admirer, these days. (pretty things)th667OH7DG.jpg
 
PoS said:
All of them ought to be legal. The government should have no say when it comes to putting things in your own body.
Click to expand...

It also does not work when government try to control drugs and have a so called war on drugs as it does not stop or limit the ability of anyone to get their hands on those drugs and are an engine to direct large sums of money to violence criminals.
 
BillRM said:
It also does not work when government try to control drugs and have a so called war on drugs as it does not stop or limit the ability of anyone to get their hands on those drugs and are an engine to direct large sums of money to violence criminals.
Click to expand...

This ^
 
Addressing how the government can not control the flow of drugs I will refer to the fact that not even in government prisons can the government completely control the drug trade.

Beside the traditional means of smuggling in contraband to prisoners we are seeing news stories of people flying in drones full of drugs right into the prisons.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...5fb102-800c-11e6-8d0c-fb6c00c90481_story.html

Wars on drugs are mainly pointless and in most cases does more harm then not in trying.
 
BillRM said:
Addressing how the government can not control the flow of drugs I will refer to the fact that not even in government prisons can the government completely control the drug trade.

Beside the traditional means of smuggling in contraband to prisoners we are seeing news stories of people flying in drones full of drugs right into the prisons.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...5fb102-800c-11e6-8d0c-fb6c00c90481_story.html

Wars on drugs are mainly pointless and in most cases does more harm then not in trying.
Click to expand...

I never understood the argument against keeping drugs illegal.

Legalize Pros:
Save Billions from the prosecution and incarceration of drug offenders
Tax revenue
Far safer
With legal access to recreational drugs like marijuana people will be less likely to use harder substances.

While there are some legitimate complaints against, there is not enough that outweigh the positives for legalization.
 
Masterhawk said:
The issue right now is whether to legalize marijuana. However as we all know, there are others such as LSD, cocaine, and heroin. Most are well known but some drugs, not so much. Here is information about the less known kind below:

Salvia divinorum: is a bit akin to heroin but with shorter side effects. Is ingested similarly to weed

dipt: is a hallucinogenic drug but instead of causing user to see stuff, it causes them to hear stuff.

bromo dragonfly: similar to LSD but lasts 3 days as opposed to 12 hours

krokodil: just like heroin except cheaper. Also kills users after 2 years of usage



btw, if you select the last option, please don't select the other options
Click to expand...

All drugs. Period. No exceptions.
 
Masterhawk said:
The issue right now is whether to legalize marijuana. However as we all know, there are others such as LSD, cocaine, and heroin. Most are well known but some drugs, not so much. Here is information about the less known kind below:

Salvia divinorum: is a bit akin to heroin but with shorter side effects. Is ingested similarly to weed

dipt: is a hallucinogenic drug but instead of causing user to see stuff, it causes them to hear stuff.

bromo dragonfly: similar to LSD but lasts 3 days as opposed to 12 hours

krokodil: just like heroin except cheaper. Also kills users after 2 years of usage



btw, if you select the last option, please don't select the other options
Click to expand...

Good grief, this made me feel old. I had no idea what three of these were - thanks for the explanations, they sound horrible, and further solidifies my assertion that there hasn't been a good "new" drug since Ecstasy. (Speaking experience only, side effects are another story) If someone wanted a 3 day acid trip, they should just grab some peyote...though why someone would want to trip for three days straight is beyond me.

That said, I'm of the opinion that all drugs should be "legal", or at least decriminalized, and efforts should be made to provide addiction / cessation treatment, since prohibition has been such a demonstrable and expensive failure on all levels. Of course, what then to do with all the for-profit prisons you folks have down there.......
 
Masterhawk said:
The issue right now is whether to legalize marijuana. However as we all know, there are others such as LSD, cocaine, and heroin. Most are well known but some drugs, not so much. Here is information about the less known kind below:

Salvia divinorum: is a bit akin to heroin but with shorter side effects. Is ingested similarly to weed

dipt: is a hallucinogenic drug but instead of causing user to see stuff, it causes them to hear stuff.

bromo dragonfly: similar to LSD but lasts 3 days as opposed to 12 hours

krokodil: just like heroin except cheaper. Also kills users after 2 years of usage



btw, if you select the last option, please don't select the other options
Click to expand...

Everything except those absurdly potent synthetic opioids. Those should be banned, even for medical use.

The drug war is an expensive failure, and I believe far more people have died as the result of it than would have died without it. If you don't agree, that's fine, but read these and get back to me:
https://www.amazon.com/Chasing-Scream-First-Last-Drugs/dp/1620408902
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U19DTS0/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

I didn't get my opinion via a knee-jerk caused by my libertarian tendencies.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
Everything except those absurdly potent synthetic opioids. Those should be banned, even for medical use.

The drug war is an expensive failure, and I believe far more people have died as the result of it than would have died without it. If you don't agree, that's fine, but read these and get back to me:
https://www.amazon.com/Chasing-Scream-First-Last-Drugs/dp/1620408902
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U19DTS0/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

I didn't get my opinion via a knee-jerk caused by my libertarian tendencies.
Click to expand...

If you are referring to Oxycodone with the opioid comment, screw that. Oxy was about the only thing I had to make life bearable while I was going through my back troubles.
 
Masterhawk said:
The issue right now is whether to legalize marijuana. However as we all know, there are others such as LSD, cocaine, and heroin. Most are well known but some drugs, not so much. Here is information about the less known kind below:

Salvia divinorum: is a bit akin to heroin but with shorter side effects. Is ingested similarly to weed

dipt: is a hallucinogenic drug but instead of causing user to see stuff, it causes them to hear stuff.

bromo dragonfly: similar to LSD but lasts 3 days as opposed to 12 hours

krokodil: just like heroin except cheaper. Also kills users after 2 years of usage



btw, if you select the last option, please don't select the other options
Click to expand...

Every drug ever invented or will be invented should be legal. The toll on humanity will be significant for a period of time, but when the smoke clears societies will have learned how to substantially circumvent the casualties and simultaneously end the failed wars on drugs. It will also end the Prison Economy. It will also reduce minorities being the largest populations in our prisons.
 
Nap said:
If you are referring to Oxycodone with the opioid comment, screw that. Oxy was about the only thing I had to make life bearable while I was going through my back troubles.
Click to expand...

No, I'm in total agreement. I don't want to wander OT, but I have a severe cervical spine problem and understand exactly what you mean.

I'm referring to this :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carfentanil
ONLY. The reason I phrased it the way I did is that there may be others just as nasty that I'm unaware of.

A cop here was treated for OD'ing via skin contact when he responded to help a reported OD. That stuff is just too strong to be safe.

I think heroin should be legal.
 
Marijuana...maybe!. I'm still on the fence when it comes to that.
 
Anything in it's natural state should be legal, everything else should be decriminalized. Except cocaine, it should be made legal just to kill the cartel's black market. The demand is to high to kill cocaine's black market any other way.
 
PoS said:
All of them ought to be legal. The government should have no say when it comes to putting things in your own body.
Click to expand...
If the government is responsible for your healthcare, they should be able to tell you what you can put in your body, drugs, food, and drink.

.
 
Tobacco and Maryjane.

If you require more recreational drugs than that, move to New Hampshire :2razz:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom