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Has the media vilified Trump more than any other President?

What say you?

  • Yes, absolutely!

    Votes: 39 36.4%

  • No, not at all.

    Votes: 17 15.9%

  • Same as every other President, just with different talking heads.

    Votes: 6 5.6%

  • Yes, but he brought it on himself.

    Votes: 35 32.7%

  • Other (Please Explain)

    Votes: 5 4.7%

  • I'll take a 16 oz sirloin, medium rare, side of sweet potato, corn and a cold beer.

    Votes: 5 4.7%
  • Total voters
    107
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Does the media have more bad stuff to say about him than any other president I can recall? Yeah.

But that's because he says and does a lot more bad stuff than any other president I can recall. He even manages to screw up soft pitches like white tie roasts and Boy Scout jamborees. Who does that?

If he wants better press, he should try being less crap at his job.
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The media has an obligation to report both the good and the bad, even if it is 25/75. They only report the bad because they swing left and want to take Trump down. And Trump fights back.
 
blackjack50 said:
I can't think of any other president who has even remotely taken the same amount of flak. Bush was hit pretty hard. No modern liberal has taken the same heat from so many angles.


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Gee, I wonder why that is?
 
Phys251 said:
More than any other president? I think Richard Nixon's corpse would like a word with that.

In any case, without that quantifier, Trump basically brought it on himself.
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But the media has an obligation to report both the good and the bad, even if it is 25/75. The media only reports 100% bad.
 
Media_Truth said:
FOX News attacks on Obama were the worst in history. They resorted to lies, including many character lies. They resorted to the creation, promotion, and provision of key-note speakers for the Tea Party.

The media is not resorting to lies with Trump. They don't have to... On the contrary, Trump is continuously lying, including lies about the media.
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But -------- Fox News is not ABC, NBC, CBS, or even CNN. ABC, NBC, CBS, or even CNN have an obligation to report the news without bias. I don't expect MSNBC to, as they are just the mirror image of Fox. But, thanks for admitting that the mainstream media are the liberal version of FOX News.
 
shrubnose said:
If Trump doesn't like what the media says about him all that he has to do is change his nasty habits.

"What goes around,comes around."
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The mainstream media have an obligation to report both the good and the bad, even if it is 25/75. They very purposefully report 100% negative on Trump.
 
Geoist said:
A loud, arrogant, fool of a president gets media attention when he acts like a loud, arrogant fool. Who knew...
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Media attention is not the issue. Heck, Obama got a lot of media attention. The topic is the KIND of attention the President is getting.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Between Trump and the media, I'm not sure which of the two that I have more disdain for to be honest.
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Bingo! Both Trump and the media are not trusted to tell the truth. The left seems to forget that most Americans don't trust the media and it's been getting worse for decades.
 
Geoist said:
A loud, arrogant, fool of a president gets media attention when he acts like a loud, arrogant fool. Who knew...
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But the mainstream media has an obligation to report fairly, even if that coverage would only be 25/75 in Trump's case. They almost never report the positive on Trump or even Republicans in general. The mainstream media has a left slant and they use it to the hilt. Just one example: They report that the Republican Health Care plans will throw 15 million people off insurance instead of reporting the positive that 15 million people will no longer be forced to buy insurance they don't want.
 
Kobie said:
Has it ever occurred to you that the "media" gives the president a hard time because he's a piece of crap who treats everyone around him (except his family) like garbage; lashes out like a child at anyone who dares disagree with him; knows little to nothing about policy and has shown zero interest in changing that; and basically exists to placate the lowest common denominator?

The media doesn't suck Trump's dick because he's a terrible person who never should have been elected president. But he was, because his idiot supporters apparently outnumber the rest of us who know how to read.
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But the media has an obligation to report without a bias and to report the positive along with the negative. They don't do that. They only report the negative.
 
Moderate Right said:
So, you're honestly comparing the two? Why don't you go all the way and compare Trump to Hitler? Oh, wait a minute, many of you rabid lefties do. Never mind.
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That is pretty piss poor comprehension on your part. It was not a comparison of John Wayne Gacy to Trump. Instead it was an insult to Republicans that have such a constant knee-jerk reaction to any critical coverage of a Republican.
 
Geoist said:
We've had no other president remotely like Trump.
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Which is exactly why the mainstream media attacks Trump, because he is not their bought and paid for establishment. The left cozies up to the mainstream media in a love affair so the media reports mostly all positive on anything having to do with the left. Since Trump is not the establishment bought and paid for by media, they are out to get him with 100% negative coverage.
 
molten_dragon said:
It hasn't been significantly worse than the media's reporting on Obama or Bush. And that difference can be explained by Trumps ineptitude and bad behavior.
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But the mainstream media has as an obligation to report the news fairly and without bias instead of attacking someone just because they don't like him. They are supposed to be professionals, but are not.
 
Moderate Right said:
But they never report the positive. It is all 100% negative. There is positive, but you don't hear that from the media.
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Similarly, despicable man is good at gardening, why doesn't the media report that? Mao was a good poet, why did the media never report that? Lance Armstrong is a hell of a triathlete, why does the media never report that?

Trump is a pathologically lying, despicable man that says and does despicable things on a near daily basis. The bad simply drowns out the good with him as it does with every despicable person in the public sphere.
 
JamesBY said:
The media has had a hey day with Trump, who brought most of it on himself.
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The mainstream media has an obligation to fairly report both the positive and the negative without a bias. Because they don't like Trump, they only report the negative. That makes them no better than FOX News. I wouldn't have a problem with them doing this as long as they admit up front that they are not fair and unbiased. I don't have a problem with MSNBC attacking Trump relentlessly because that is what is expected from them, just as FOX News attacking Obama was expected.
 
Nuber said:
And all of this is part of the reason why he won. The populace wanted a non-politician. The non-traditional behaviors are the result. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Is this really what's best for the country? Hmmm...debatable.
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I agree with this part totally. The establishment of both sides (and the mainstream media) have gone rabid because voters didn't want ------ the establishment. America didn't want either the establishment or any more dynasties. Republican voters in the primaries easily took care of Jeb Bush handily but crooked Hillary & Co and the superdelegate system gave the Democratic nomination to an establishment dynasty member that America never wanted in the first place and then the establishment left shook their heads in disbelief because a non establishment nominee beat the establishment dynasty nominee.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Simple question. Do you believe the media has vilified Trump more than any other President?
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I hear the press was pretty vicious in the 17th Century.

In my adult life, though, yes. With no doubt.

They hated Bush and attacked him, but it was more of a dismissive cool kids attack against the kid in the wheel chair kind of a thing.

As they attack Trump, they really seem like the Democrat party rag writing outright lies and reporting the lies they write as fact.

The reader or listener is forced to really dissect the structure of sentences from reporters to see if the "facts" reported are facts or if they are just repeated rumor.

In one way, this is a little humorous in an ironic sort of way.

They are attacking Trump as the guy who is destroying the country. In their attacks, though, they are destroying their own profession, journalism.

They are The Portrait of Dorian Grey, and we are seeing every ugly line and wound. Those who are equally freed from ethical restraint seem to enjoy it.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Similarly, despicable man is good at gardening, why doesn't the media report that? Mao was a good poet, why did the media never report that? Lance Armstrong is a hell of a triathlete, why does the media never report that?

Trump is a pathologically lying, despicable man that says and does despicable things on a near daily basis. The bad simply drowns out the good with him as it does with every despicable person in the public sphere.
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Just read the other day (not in the mainstream media) that Trump donated his first few months salary to the Department of Education. Didn't see that on the six o'clock news. Didn't expect to.
 
Moderate Right said:
Just read the other day (not in the mainstream media) that Trump donated his first few months salary to the Department of Education. Didn't see that on the six o'clock news. Didn't expect to.
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I did, they reported on it on CNN the same morning. I saw it while I was watching the news and drinking my morning coffee. Once again though, it was drowned out by the bad as it was right after he gave that disgusting speech to the Boy Scouts. I also believe it was the same day he tweeted out his ban of transsexuals in the military. Moreover, as Trump is costing the taxpayers more on travel in a year with his trips down to Mar-a-lago than any other president in 8 years, it also gets drowned out by that.

Just the same, a simple news aggregator search shows that everyone covered his donation to the Department of Education. https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=trump+donates+salary+to+department+of+education&FORM=HDRSC6

If Trump wants credit for the few token decent things he does 10% of the time, he could try not being so despicable 90% of the time.

DeVos announces $100,000 donation from President Trump
U.S. Education Secretary Betsy DeVos appeared at a White House briefing on Wednesday to announce that President Trump would be donating his second-quarter salary to the Education Department. The money will reportedly go to a science, technology, engineering and math-focused camp for students to be hosted at department. An unidentified spokesperson for the department told NPR, "We are in the beginning stages of the planning process, and as we have more information, we will provide it."
Trump's budget request in May called for a $9.2 billion cut to the Education Department's budget.
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Trump Donates To Education Department : NPR Ed : NPR
 
Mycroft said:
Media attention is not the issue. Heck, Obama got a lot of media attention. The topic is the KIND of attention the President is getting.
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Only Trump has control over the KIND of media attention he gets. But he can't help himself, being the narcissist that he is.
 
Moderate Right said:
They report that the Republican Health Care plans will throw 15 million people off insurance instead of reporting the positive that 15 million people will no longer be forced to buy insurance they don't want.
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Why didn't the Republicans run with that argument? Probably because it is a ridiculous argument. Why on Earth would the media report positively on a bill that even most Republicans hated and 74% of polled Americans didn't want?
 
Nuber said:
And all of this is part of the reason why he won. The populace wanted a non-politician. The non-traditional behaviors are the result. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Is this really what's best for the country? Hmmm...debatable.

Will Trump supporters leave him because of these issues? Not a chance, its exactly what they wanted.

Besides, Trump has that boy-scout vote locked up now...
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The "people" wanted an end to mass illegal migration, attention paid to outsourcing of jobs, attention paid to China stealing us blind and cheating on trade, and to back off from social change orders from Washington. It goes much deeper than Obamacare.

Most of what got Trump elected is that the Democrats have become the party of big business and the elite. They forgot about "the little guy".
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Simple question. Do you believe the media has vilified Trump more than any other President?
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Yes, but he brought it on himself.

It has degenerated to the point where they're subtly but purposely poking at him, and he in his probably unavoidable way is reacting like a petulant child and lashes back. Then they sit back and giggle and report it. And the vicious circle continues. Serious, the media is leading him around by the nose.
 
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