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Is Putin the new Hitler?

Is Putin the new Hitler?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 4.0%

  • No

    Votes: 22 88.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • Total voters
    25
Bucky said:
Trump is not a traitor or guilty of treason. Stop with this left-wing conspiracy theory rant.
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Just out of curiosity, what do you want for this country??
I'd like to see more spent on our own citizens than corporations ruling our world.
But hey I've reformed from being GOP - they've gone way too far to the right.
 
jghiretire said:
Just out of curiosity, what do you want for this country??
I'd like to see more spent on our own citizens than corporations ruling our world.
But hey I've reformed from being GOP - they've gone way too far to the right.
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We need to create a flat tax and give some breathing room to the middle class and small businesses.

We need to create social programs that uplift the lower and middle class, instead of trapping them in a soulless program.

We need to protect our borders with logic and innovation. A solar panel wall to keep the illegal immigrants and criminals out of our country.

We need to create a healthcare system that works for people, not against.

Trump has supported all of these ideas and it is the Democrats obstructing progress. This country has not seen this level of obstruction since the civil war when Lincoln was president.
 
Bucky said:
The way people in the hate trump media are speaking, you would think Putin is our enemy and that he is some sort of super vilian. Based on some comments, you would think Russia is hiding in the bushes waiting to launch nuclear weapons against the U.S.

I do not believe Putin is even comparable to Hitler. He's not as powerful and much easier to control.

What are your thoughts?
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Putin is a villain and is our enemy. And anyone who denies is our villainous enemy.
 
phattonez said:
Then explain the whole allying with Japan thing.
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Distraction for America; would make conquering Russia much easier had they intervened; "only" Asians and thus considered scum by Der Fuhrer and his cronies.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Distraction for America; would make conquering Russia much easier had they intervened; "only" Asians and thus considered scum by Der Fuhrer and his cronies.
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Do you have any evidence for their intent for global domination? There's plenty of evidence for that with Communists, but Nazis? I'd like to see that.
 
JamesBY said:
Putin is a villain and is our enemy. And anyone who denies is our villainous enemy.
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phattonez said:
All of these articles talk about the limited scope of Hitler's intent (though conquering all of Europe isn't exactly limited, but on a relative scale). Any plans of an invasion of North America are a self-admitted dream, and there's nothing at all about Asia or Africa.
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Global domination doesn't mean your banner flies over ever square inch of land, it can just mean there's no other power that can rival your de facto supremacy over all other nations.

And yes, if you had read the whole thing you would see that Hitler actually did have plans for Africa, with the continent being divided into three sections; one controlled by Italy, one by Nazi Germany, and the third a client state ruled by Afrikaaners. Asia was to be divided between Germay and Japan, with the split coming roughly around India up through Siberia.
 
Bucky said:
The way people in the hate trump media are speaking, you would think Putin is our enemy and that he is some sort of super vilian. Based on some comments, you would think Russia is hiding in the bushes waiting to launch nuclear weapons against the U.S.

I do not believe Putin is even comparable to Hitler. He's not as powerful and much easier to control.

What are your thoughts?
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Putin is as powerful in Russia as any man could be. He holds the power of life and death over every citizen... Every Russian knows this. cross him and you disappear. Putin's goal is to weaken the U.S. by any means while increasing the power and prestige of Russia. He is not stupid enough to commit suicide by launching nukes at us. What a dumb comment. As far as controlling Putin, strength is the only thing he recognizes. If we can cause him enough pain he will rethink his position.
Oh and comparing Trump to Hitler gives Trump far too much credit. Trump might wish he was Hitler (or Putin) but his stage charisma just sucks eggs and he is not very bright either. Not to mention this is America and no man is above the law here.
 
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Jredbaron96 said:
Global domination doesn't mean your banner flies over ever square inch of land, it can just mean there's no other power that can rival your de facto supremacy over all other nations.

And yes, if you had read the whole thing you would see that Hitler actually did have plans for Africa, with the continent being divided into three sections; one controlled by Italy, one by Nazi Germany, and the third a client state ruled by Afrikaaners. Asia was to be divided between Germay and Japan, with the split coming roughly around India up through Siberia.
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And Communism planned to subvert different nations and establish a world run by the ideology. That's why it's global. Nazi Germany was unabashedly pro-German, even if it wanted to take over a significant portion of the world. Communism has no preference for any peoples.
 
phattonez said:
And Communism planned to subvert different nations and establish a world run by the ideology. That's why it's global. Nazi Germany was unabashedly pro-German, even if it wanted to take over a significant portion of the world. Communism has no preference for any peoples.
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So Communists were egalitarian and Nazis were racists. Not exactly a point in your favor.
 
So phattonez and bucky, since they want to play like the democrats did, are really democratic party oriented.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
So Communists were egalitarian and Nazis were racists. Not exactly a point in your favor.
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The only point that I was making was that Hitler was a nationalistic leader opposing a globalist leader. Putin is a nationalistic leader opposing globalistic governments.
 
phattonez said:
The only point that I was making was that Hitler was a nationalistic leader opposing a globalist leader. Putin is a nationalistic leader opposing globalistic governments.
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Putin and Hitler are and were a lot of things. I think comparison's between the two are rather ridiculous, even though I dislike Putin and what he has done to Russia.
 
phattonez said:
All of these articles talk about the limited scope of Hitler's intent (though conquering all of Europe isn't exactly limited, but on a relative scale). Any plans of an invasion of North America are a self-admitted dream, and there's nothing at all about Asia or Africa.
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Conquering North America is not "limited" in any way, shape or form. Neither is driving to the Urals.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Conquering North America is not "limited" in any way, shape or form. Neither is driving to the Urals.
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And Hitler even admitted that it was a pipe dream. It wasn't going to happen.
 
phattonez said:
And Hitler even admitted that it was a pipe dream. It wasn't going to happen.
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Doesn't change the fact that had they defeated the USSR they had every intention of giving it a shot.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Doesn't change the fact that had they defeated the USSR they had every intention of giving it a shot.
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Eh? I don't see it. Anyway, the point is differentiating between nationalism and globalism, which I think I've made pretty clear.
 
phattonez said:
Eh? I don't see it. Anyway, the point is differentiating between nationalism and globalism, which I think I've made pretty clear.
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Hitler was a nationalist who wanted to create a "New World Order" and brutally invaded his neighbors.
 
Putin is certainly abhorrent on many levels, but Hitler is a special standard that hasn't been met.
 
Putin =/= Hitler
Putin = Enemy of the US
 
Cardinal said:
Putin is certainly abhorrent on many levels, but Hitler is a special standard that hasn't been met.
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Kind of a Bob Beamon long jump, genocide-wise?
Some have tried and been able to quibble about statistics and percentages for the title, but Hitler will always be the standard of comparison.
Doesn't take anything away from Putin as far as despotism goes, but he's young and just starting to heat up. He'll never equal Stalin or Hitler but he's gonna leave a footprint.
 
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