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Who believes 99.9 % of Muslims do not engage in terror and jihad?

  • 1. Yes that percentage is correct

    Votes: 15 65.2%

  • 2. No, that is a ridiculous statistic.

    Votes: 8 34.8%
  • Total voters
    23
  • Poll closed .
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Chagos said:
Heck, leave it open by all means.

Foolishness is best revealed out in the open.
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Close it - he'd start another one.

Isn't this circular nonsense of form of trolling? Then there's the rather blatant broad-brush bigotry...:roll:
 
<alt>doxygen said:
ebay. Search "Hitler's Shower and Oven Combo".

Seems you have a lot of work to do.
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Did Hitler or his ovens last 1400 years? You have a lot of work to do.
 
coldjoint said:
Support of 160 million Muslims is reasonable.
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I have tried to explain the degrees of faith.
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and you haven't gone an inch beyond that (operative words bolded)
And any support is support, no matter how small.
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Congratulations, defeating one's own argument with the very next sentence takes skill.
Why can't intelligent people grasp that concept?
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Maybe because intelligent people can see the silliness of a concept when they do see it.
I think the reason fails when they might be called some terrible names, like hater or bigot.
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How 'bout they'd prefer not to be called idiots?
No one dies from names they are called. Terror victims die.
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Both as undeniably true as this gem of wisdom having to do squat with anything here.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
Close it - he'd start another one.

Isn't this circular nonsense of form of trolling? Then there's the rather blatant broad-brush bigotry...:roll:
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Oh, that's nothing compared to his other threads.;)
 
coldjoint said:
Did Hitler or his ovens last 1400 years? You have a lot of work to do.
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Your post makes no sense in reference to what you replied to.

I do have a lot of work to do. None of it involves paranoia regarding Muslims and Islam.
 
Verax said:
Oh support, so what like 1,000 Muslims in the shadows support 1 terrorist? What is the supporter to terrorist ratio?

I'm sure you know exactly what the typical Muslim believes being that you guys are so accurate in what you think a liberal believes.
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Actually you think alike, and believe in many of the same things. We can start with trying to inflict what you think ,and or, lifestyle on others. Islam uses violence and intimidation. As we see liberals are increasingly violent. The intimidation is the ridicule that is par for the course in any of their arguments as it is much easier to attack the source and ignore the problem with the same goal in mind, and that is control.
 
coldjoint said:
I believe between 10% to 13% fully support jihad and terror. I have posted what I consider reliable sources. How about you? What is the percentage you believe engage or fully support terror and violent jihad?
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Even if you believe the some of the worst case numbers the total number of Muslim terrorists in the world likely no more than about 300,000. Even if you then just arbitrarily just decided to double those worst case numbers you're still looking at 600,000. There are a total of 1.6 billion Muslims on earth. That means that only about 0.000375% of the Muslim population on earth could be considered terrorists, and I had to more than double the wildest estimates that exist to get there.

So no. You're wrong.
 
coldjoint said:
And I said I have sources, there is no need to post them to ask a question so many have an opinion about.
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This is not an opinion. If you claim you have sources with data then your sources are either factually accurate or the are not. Every single solitary source I have ever seen on the subject says that you are wrong. That's not my opinion, that's what the data tells us. That make it factual.
 
Who "engage" in it, not that high. Who "support" it? I think it's 50% or higher.
 
The question is.......what percentage of Muslims sympathize with, if not all the methods, at least with the political goals of the terrorists?

The answer would be about 75%.

That's the REAL problem.

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MrWonka said:
This is not an opinion. If you claim you have sources with data then your sources are either factually accurate or the are not. Every single solitary source I have ever seen on the subject says that you are wrong. That's not my opinion, that's what the data tells us. That make it factual.
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That data is manipulated, much like anyone who believes it.
 
coldjoint said:
Since everyone seems to be unhappy about the poll I suppose the thread should be closed. Closed before more people realize that the number of actual terrorists have little to do with the support of their terror. The mission is political as Islam has been and terror is just one tactic. Another tactic is for apologists to find something to change the subject. I guess they have and it is my fault for not wording things more carefully.

I still maintain that number is ridiculous, unless you are happy with nitpicking about a very serious deadly problem that is increasing in both categories terror and support.
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No one is forcing them to take it. If they don't like it, don't click on the thread.
 
coldjoint said:
Actually you think alike, and believe in many of the same things. We can start with trying to inflict what you think ,and or, lifestyle on others. Islam uses violence and intimidation. As we see liberals are increasingly violent. The intimidation is the ridicule that is par for the course in any of their arguments as it is much easier to attack the source and ignore the problem with the same goal in mind, and that is control.
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Look!

You wanted to know who believes what and now you do.

That's all assuming (generously, I might add) that your purpose for this "poll":roll: wasn't what it usually is for any thread you start, namely obsessing in your usual compulsive manner over how Islam is eevull.

Attempting to enhance the whole foolish venture in your usual display of dishonesty, bigotry and total lack of logic by attacking any follower of that religion.

Well, at current count you have a quarter of respondents having given you what you want so why not quit whining.

Of course if I cast my vote as well you'd have less than that, but don't worry. I won't give my vote to anything as dishonest as this current "master piece" of yours.:roll:
 
holbritter said:
Who "engage" in it, not that high. Who "support" it? I think it's 50% or higher.
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I simply cannot believe that half of my muslims friends, let alone 75% like someone else said, wants to kill me. If you truly believe that, your view of humanity is warped.
 
coldjoint said:
Actually you think alike, and believe in many of the same things. We can start with trying to inflict what you think ,and or, lifestyle on others. Islam uses violence and intimidation. As we see liberals are increasingly violent. The intimidation is the ridicule that is par for the course in any of their arguments as it is much easier to attack the source and ignore the problem with the same goal in mind, and that is control.
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Ah yes, inflict what we think. That's why liberals are trying to ban people of a certain religion? Liberals are increasingly violent? Right, they commit most terrorism in the U.S., on no wait Muslims do? OH NO, actually right wingers commit most of the terrorism in the U.S.

You are correct though, liberals love to ridicule. Well actually we don't like to, but you guys are insane so we have to blow off some steam somehow. You know. Fighting people who are wrong about everything and upon being given the correct information and watching it bounce off their skulls it becomes a little aggravating.
 
coldjoint said:
That data is manipulated,
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Why exactly?

What would motivate our intelligence community (who are just as likely to be victim of attacks themselves) to so radically manipulate the data in order to under estimate that number.

Particularly when they know they could potentially be proven wrong so easily?

There are 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. If you were correct in your estimates that make for about 180 million Muslim Terrorists. That's more than half the population of the United States. How exactly could our military manage to fight them off with only about 200,000 of our own troops despite fighting them in their own country?

The data isn't being manipulated. You are.
 
Ostara said:
I simply cannot believe that half of my muslims friends, let alone 75% like someone else said, wants to kill me. If you truly believe that, your view of humanity is warped.
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Are you friends with all the Muslims in the world? I'm not talking about a small group of someone's friends, but the Muslim population as a whole. I guess I could have been more clear.
 
holbritter said:
Are you friends with all the Muslims in the world? I'm not talking about a small group of someone's friends, but the Muslim population as a whole. I guess I could have been more clear.
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I highly doubt 75% of Indonesia wants to kill us.
 
holbritter said:
Are you friends with all the Muslims in the world? I'm not talking about a small group of someone's friends, but the Muslim population as a whole. I guess I could have been more clear.
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Which of course leads to the question of whether YOU are sufficiently acquainted with the Muslim population overall.;)

Since nobody can claim that anyway, there are opinion polls available in which Muslims have voiced their take on the matter (see post #14 in which, I believe, a PEW survey is cited).

Of course one can argue whether the number of those interviewed serves as sufficient representation, as well as speculate on whether they're all telling the truth. But that's neither here nor there.
 
Verax said:
Ah yes, inflict what we think. That's why liberals are trying to ban people of a certain religion? Liberals are increasingly violent? Right, they commit most terrorism in the U.S., on no wait Muslims do? OH NO, actually right wingers commit most of the terrorism in the U.S.

You are correct though, liberals love to ridicule. Well actually we don't like to, but you guys are insane so we have to blow off some steam somehow. You know. Fighting people who are wrong about everything and upon being given the correct information and watching it bounce off their skulls it becomes a little aggravating.
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I am not trying to ban it, I am telling you that it is a serious problem and to lie by putting emphasis the actual number of physical terrorists somehow matters when the ones that are killed are quickly replaced. Those taking it for the team have a ****load of help behind them more than willing to give them the opportunity.
 
coldjoint said:
I highly doubt they would care if it happened either. What else you got?
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Wow with that kind of support its amazing any of us are alive.

Newsflash....if 75% of 1.7 billion people want you dead....you better get your affairs in order
 
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