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The President's Power to Shut Down National Enquirer Articles

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Given the president's admitted power to shut down National Enquirer articles which are harmful to people he sees as opponents, will this make you less likely to trust his relationship with media figures supporting him? In the past the NE has run various stories attacking Trump opponents in the primaries. He now admitted that he holds sway over which stories they print and which ones they do not.

Will you continue to trust news organizations who support the president given his admitted influence over which stories are printed?

:lol:
 
Given the president's admitted power to shut down National Enquirer articles which are harmful to people he sees as opponents, will this make you less likely to trust his relationship with media figures supporting him? In the past the NE has run various stories attacking Trump opponents in the primaries. He now admitted that he holds sway over which stories they print and which ones they do not.

Will you continue to trust news organizations who support the president given his admitted influence over which stories are printed?

:lol:

Voted no, but really, who actually uses the National Enquirer as a reliable news source? lol ... :)
 
Voted no, but really, who actually uses the National Enquirer as a reliable news source? lol ... :)

So far as I can tell, anyone justifying the use of the National Enquirer will cite that one time it broke the story that John Edwards had an affair. It's an interesting way to gauge the trustworthiness of a story. Apparently if I lie 99% of the time, all I have to do is refer people to the 1% of the time I told the truth in order to argue that I'm credible.

When a piece is written listing the articles that your favorite publication got right, then maybe you should be searching for a better news vendor.

National Enquirer' Stories That Were True - Business Insider
 
The owner of the Enquirer is a known fan and friend of Trump. Trump has used the Enquirer for decades to "hurt" those he hates. Remember the Ted Cruz scandal that the Enquirer "broke".. guess who got them on to that idea...
 
The Enquirer is about as relevant as Info Wars (probably even less so) as far most are concerned. The fact Trump has sway in both those publications mean very little except for the very small portion of people that actually believe in that nonsense.

I'm more concerned about some of the people at Fox that have pretty much abandoned any semblance of principles in regards to Trump. As far as I am concerned Ben Shapiro is the only one that seems to report on Trump with an objective stance while maintaining conservative principles.
 
Will you continue to trust news organizations who support the president given his admitted influence over which stories are printed?

:lol:

No, but I didn't have much trust in The Nat'l Enquirer prior to Trump's machinations.
The various media outlets and their reporting require some scrutiny and fact-checking.
NE requires more than most of the others.
 
Given the president's admitted power to shut down National Enquirer articles which are harmful to people he sees as opponents, will this make you less likely to trust his relationship with media figures supporting him? In the past the NE has run various stories attacking Trump opponents in the primaries. He now admitted that he holds sway over which stories they print and which ones they do not.

Will you continue to trust news organizations who support the president given his admitted influence over which stories are printed?

:lol:



As a former journalist I deplore the existence of National Inquirer, however I deplore the power of a president to shut down any publication, and especially not Trump.
 
He needs to get back to do his job and stop micromanaging everything. Both he and Obama have a really thin skin, and Hillary, well, she went as far as roping off the press like cattle.
Seriously, with all the crap slung at GW, he did just let it slide. As far as we can tell anyway. If he boohooed about anything, I missed it.
Let the press do its thing. Who believes what the NE prints? Aren't those the ones who think Pelosi has a love child with Elvis?
 
Where is the basic citation? I don't know what this story is about. :confused:

What "power to shut down" does the President have? None that I know of.

Was it a friendship with the publisher you are talking about? If so, then any person of influence can use said influence to effect action.

For example, the Veritas videos and a simple knowledge of CNN broadcasts over the last six months show that whoever controls CNN is pushing their agenda with fake news to a much larger audience than National Enquirer can claim.

You still trust such news organizations? :coffeepap:
 
Where is the basic citation? I don't know what this story is about. :confused:

What "power to shut down" does the President have? None that I know of.

Was it a friendship with the publisher you are talking about? If so, then any person of influence can use said influence to effect action.

For example, the Veritas videos and a simple knowledge of CNN broadcasts over the last six months show that whoever controls CNN is pushing their agenda with fake news to a much larger audience than National Enquirer can claim.

You still trust such news organizations? :coffeepap:

The issue is whether it's right that the President is using his influence with an outside agency (although any agency would be fine as an example) to effectively exploit/blackmail a news site in order to change their behavior. If the facts as they have been reported to date are true (we're still waiting on the full exchange of texts to verify the charge), then what Trump did could be illegal.
 
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I don't trust news organizations, period.
 
Given the president's admitted power to shut down National Enquirer articles which are harmful to people he sees as opponents, will this make you less likely to trust his relationship with media figures supporting him? In the past the NE has run various stories attacking Trump opponents in the primaries. He now admitted that he holds sway over which stories they print and which ones they do not.

Will you continue to trust news organizations who support the president given his admitted influence over which stories are printed?

:lol:

I never did. I didn't like it when the MSM went on the Obama train, and then Obama got really critical of them and only went on crappy YouTube shows towards the end of his presidency. So I find it funny that now when I attack stupid fake news right wing sites Trump supporters are the one telling me that I am biased and hateful. I do not condone such actions and his control over the National Enquirer is a serious concern. Obama wished he had that much control over a media outlet. Yeah, Yeah I know what the Trumpsters are gonna say, but he wasn't all powerful like right wing news has led you to believe. Obama never had this much power over the media.

He never did stuff like this:
obamatweet.jpg
 
Given the president's admitted power to shut down National Enquirer articles which are harmful to people he sees as opponents, will this make you less likely to trust his relationship with media figures supporting him? In the past the NE has run various stories attacking Trump opponents in the primaries. He now admitted that he holds sway over which stories they print and which ones they do not.

Will you continue to trust news organizations who support the president given his admitted influence over which stories are printed?

:lol:

I must have missed something. Can you give me the quote of Trump admitting he has the power to shut down National Enquirer articles? Thanks.
 
For those who haven't followed the chronology of this story:

'This has to stop': Trump's vulgar tweets bashing 'Morning Joe' host draw the ire of Republican leaders - LA Times

That story was prompted by this series of tweets:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880408582310776832
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880410114456465411

The backlash to these tweets resulted in another from Trump:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880771685460344832, which implies that Trump was the person who stood between a negative article about Joe and Mica being published.

Prompting these responses form Joe Scarborough:

https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/880773499408797697
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/880773832663085056

And finally the story about using the National Enquirer:

MSNBC hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski say President Trump and his White House used the possibility of a hit piece in the National Enquirer to threaten them and change their news coverage.

President Trump has a very different account of what happened. "FAKE NEWS," he tweeted during "Morning Joe" Friday morning.
But Scarborough says he has proof of White House threats earlier this year -- he replied to Trump and said "I have texts from your top aides and phone records."

And an NBC News spokesman told CNN that Scarborough kept several executives apprised of the alleged threats "contemporaneously." This may bolster Scarborough's stunning claim.

Scarborough and Brzezinski are essentially alleging a form of blackmail. The accusation came during a wider discussion about the president's offensive tweets targeting the co-hosts.

But a White House official suggested to CNN that nothing untoward had occurred. The official told CNN that Scarborough called Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, about the Enquirer story before it was published. Kushner, the official said, told Scarborough to call the president. The official denied there was ever any offer from Kushner of a quid pro quo -- in other words softer coverage in exchange for spiking the Enquirer story.
The White House has yet to comment publicly.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/30/media/national-enquirer-donald-trump-joe-scarborough/index.html

Right now everything is hanging on an exchange of texts that neither MSNBC nor Kushner have chosen to release.
 
For those who haven't followed the chronology of this story:

'This has to stop': Trump's vulgar tweets bashing 'Morning Joe' host draw the ire of Republican leaders - LA Times

That story was prompted by this series of tweets:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880408582310776832
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880410114456465411

The backlash to these tweets resulted in another from Trump:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880771685460344832, which implies that Trump was the person who stood between a negative article about Joe and Mica being published.

Prompting these responses form Joe Scarborough:

https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/880773499408797697
https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/880773832663085056

And finally the story about using the National Enquirer:



http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/30/media/national-enquirer-donald-trump-joe-scarborough/index.html

Right now everything is hanging on an exchange of texts that neither MSNBC nor Kushner have chosen to release.

Neither one those two are elected government officials, so good luck.
 
I must have missed something. Can you give me the quote of Trump admitting he has the power to shut down National Enquirer articles? Thanks.

Why do people think Trump has the power to shut down NE stories is the better question. Apparently, he's been asked to do so.
 
So far as I can tell, anyone justifying the use of the National Enquirer will cite that one time it broke the story that John Edwards had an affair. It's an interesting way to gauge the trustworthiness of a story. Apparently if I lie 99% of the time, all I have to do is refer people to the 1% of the time I told the truth in order to argue that I'm credible.

When a piece is written listing the articles that your favorite publication got right, then maybe you should be searching for a better news vendor.

National Enquirer' Stories That Were True - Business Insider

Ya, but...aren't these the guys that "broke the story" on bat boy and "Bigfoot raped my mama and that's how I got this hairy back"?? I always associated them with that.... lol Maybe I'm thinking of a different paper, but I know for sure they were all on the same wrack at the grocery store...
 
The issue is whether it's right that the President is using his influence with an outside agency (although any agency would be fine as an example) to effectively exploit/blackmail a news site in order to change their behavior. If the facts as they have been reported to date are true (we're still waiting on the full exchange of texts to verify the charge), then what Trump did could be illegal.

What laws do you think he might have violated?
 
What laws do you think he might have violated?

It could be considered blackmail:

If President Donald Trump or members of his administration told MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough that a National Enquirer hit piece would be published unless they provided the president with better coverage, that would be a crime, a Harvard law professor said.
That statute, 18 US Code 872, says: "Whoever, being an officer, or employee of the United States or any department or agency thereof, or representing himself to be or assuming to act as such, under color or pretense of office or employment commits or attempts an act of extortion, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned."

The statute appears to leave open a window for interpretation. One could read it as covering only extortion directly tied to an amount of money, as another line in it specifies the punishment for an official "if the amount so extorted or demanded does not exceed $1,000." But the statute could also be read to cover any possible "act of extortion," and the National Enquirer incident, if true, could fall under that umbrella.

Laurence Tribe: If White House blackmailed MSNBC hosts, it's a crime - Business Insider

Although having the full exchange of texts would be really helpful in putting the lid on the coffin, there's very little to doubt that blackmail (or extortion -- I don't know what the legal difference is) occurred since Trump's tweet confirms Scarborough's claim.

Edit: According to this site, perhaps blackmail and extortion are applicable:

Extortion and blackmail are similar in concept, but there are differences between the two. Extortion is a form of theft that occurs when an offender obtains money, property, or services from another person through coercion. To constitute coercion, the necessary act can be the threat of violence, destruction of property, or improper government action. Inaction of the testimony or the withholding of testimony in a legal action are also acts that constitute coercion.

Distinction Between Blackmail and Extortion

Blackmail, in contrast to extortion, is when the offender threatens to reveal information about a victim or his family members that is potentially embarrassing, socially damaging, or incriminating unless a demand for money, property, or services is met. Even if the information is true or actually incriminating, you can still be charged with blackmail if you threaten to reveal it unless the victim meets your demand.

https://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/white_collar_crimes/extortion_blackmail.htm

According to that site, both extortion and blackmail appear to describe Trump's action.
 
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What many people seem to be ignorant of is the fact that Trump is a media whore. Trump uses the media to troll everyone & everybody, and this makes Trump basically the biggest troll the world has ever known. Trump is a master troll. This is nothing new whatsoever; Trump has utilized the media for decades for his own agenda. The idea that Trump is constantly critical of the media is completely unbelievable, as the media in the US is very entity that Trump has relied upon. Trump’s relationship with the media is symbiotic; Trump needs the media & the media needs Trump. For Trump it’s all about keeping your face & your agenda relevant. For the media it’s all about ratings aka making money. Trump? He will never change because, again, Trump is the world’s biggest troll.
 
Given the president's admitted power to shut down National Enquirer articles which are harmful to people he sees as opponents, will this make you less likely to trust his relationship with media figures supporting him? In the past the NE has run various stories attacking Trump opponents in the primaries. He now admitted that he holds sway over which stories they print and which ones they do not.

Will you continue to trust news organizations who support the president given his admitted influence over which stories are printed?

:lol:

I don't place much trust in the media period. Each news network, each newspaper, magazine, internet blog and report, all have their own agenda, their own biases, they favor or disfavor one or the other party. I'm thinking political here, not sports or the weather. I know enough if I want the news from more or less a Republican or conservative perspective, I tune in FOX. If I want it from a liberal or Democratic perspective, I tune in CNN or MSNBC. The biases are there and as plain as the nose on your face.

Trust in the media in general isn't there among the public as a whole either. Only 32% of all Americans give the media a great deal or a fair amount of trust.

Americans' Trust in Mass Media Sinks to New Low | Gallup

It's interesting for me to note, that it is the Democrats who have the most trust in the media at 51%. They should, every network leans their way with the exception of FOX. Still, that leaves 49% of Democrats who don't trust the media. Maybe truth and accuracy is more important to them than a political lean or bias. But to round it out, 30% of independents trust the media and only 14% of Republicans.
 
I don't place much trust in the media period. Each news network, each newspaper, magazine, internet blog and report, all have their own agenda, their own biases, they favor or disfavor one or the other party. I'm thinking political here, not sports or the weather. I know enough if I want the news from more or less a Republican or conservative perspective, I tune in FOX. If I want it from a liberal or Democratic perspective, I tune in CNN or MSNBC. The biases are there and as plain as the nose on your face.

Trust in the media in general isn't there among the public as a whole either. Only 32% of all Americans give the media a great deal or a fair amount of trust.

Americans' Trust in Mass Media Sinks to New Low | Gallup

It's interesting for me to note, that it is the Democrats who have the most trust in the media at 51%. They should, every network leans their way with the exception of FOX. Still, that leaves 49% of Democrats who don't trust the media. Maybe truth and accuracy is more important to them than a political lean or bias. But to round it out, 30% of independents trust the media and only 14% of Republicans.

Well, yes. Liberals tend to trust people who spend their time researching these things. Conservatives tend to trust 21st century shamen because they call themselves pastors.
 
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