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Should hotels/motels be allowed to have smoking rooms available?

Should hotels/motels be allowed to have smoking rooms available?

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It's a legal substance. So if a hotel, motel or anyplace else wants to designate a smoking area, then it should be legal to do so. Not too long ago I read that some of those states who have legalized marijuana have bars that you can smoke pot but not cigarettes or cigars. I am still scratching my head on that one.

These kind of choices should be left up to the proprietor. If you don't like it, don't go there.
 
radcen said:
Should hotels/motels be allowed to have smoking rooms available?

In strict otherwise non-smoking states. Legally allowed. Please note that I said "allowed", not "required".

I see no reason why not. As long as the following conditions are met...

1) If they have only one option, it would have to be the non-smoking rooms.
2) Non-smoking rooms would need to be 67%+ of the total rooms available for rent.
3) The policy is clearly posted by the front door.
4) The smoking rooms and non-smoking rooms are in completely separate buildings.
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Smoking is a tax on the poor and stupid. Now that we know the risks that are caused by smoking? Absolutely not. Confined space? Why allow it? Just don't make it federal law.
 
blackjack50 said:
Smoking is a tax on the poor and stupid. Now that we know the risks that are caused by smoking? Absolutely not. Confined space? Why allow it? Just don't make it federal law.
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One thing for sure smokers have paid for the childrens' welfare insurance called CHIP. And it is the sin tax of choice to hit in any state to raise funds for something else along with alcohol and now marijuana. The self righteous go to the polls and vote yes for an increase in sin taxes every time because they don't want their own taxes to go up to fund the programs that smokers do. Funny thing about those folks, while they rail against the vices of others, a good number of them are on anti-depressants taking a little blue pill everyday, a happy pill just to cope.
Maybe it is time to start taxing fat people as many of them have a vice for food. I understand that is a sin too and overweight people have countless health problems associated with it.

How about letting people make their own choices and while they make them let them pay for the consequences.
 
How about letting people make their own choices and while they make them let them pay for the consequences.
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Other people do pay the consequences for smoking. Starting with the discomfort of breathing the smoke polluted air and putting up with the filth and stench. Then it's on to health effects of second hand smoke. There's also the expense of healthcare for the smoker that is spread to non smokers through increased insurance costs.

That being said, smoking is legal, so I don't think there is anything wrong with an innkeeper providing guests with a safe and comfortable place to smoke, as long as doing so doesn't impact non smokers.
 
vesper said:
It's a legal substance. So if a hotel, motel or anyplace else wants to designate a smoking area, then it should be legal to do so. Not too long ago I read that some of those states who have legalized marijuana have bars that you can smoke pot but not cigarettes or cigars. I am still scratching my head on that one.

These kind of choices should be left up to the proprietor. If you don't like it, don't go there.
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Give it time. The law will "catch up".
 
Cephus said:
Because in public areas, where members of the public are, smoking can affect multiple people. In a private room like a hotel room, it affects only those who are there voluntarily.
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Bars, restaurants, hotels, are all private buildings, not public. You are not forced to trade with them.
 
jimbo said:
Bars, restaurants, hotels, are all private buildings, not public. You are not forced to trade with them.
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They are open to the public, anyone can walk in any time they want. Your hotel room is not.
 
vesper said:
One thing for sure smokers have paid for the childrens' welfare insurance called CHIP. And it is the sin tax of choice to hit in any state to raise funds for something else along with alcohol and now marijuana. The self righteous go to the polls and vote yes for an increase in sin taxes every time because they don't want their own taxes to go up to fund the programs that smokers do. Funny thing about those folks, while they rail against the vices of others, a good number of them are on anti-depressants taking a little blue pill everyday, a happy pill just to cope.
Maybe it is time to start taxing fat people as many of them have a vice for food. I understand that is a sin too and overweight people have countless health problems associated with it.

How about letting people make their own choices and while they make them let them pay for the consequences.
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Ok. We will start with sin taxes. ;)
 
Good question.
I understand that the vape/E cigs don't smell. Why not allow those to accommodate smokers?
Liability, fire and health hazard. Of course that can be overcome with some safety measures.
Rooms can be aired out before the cleaning person arrives.

What about feasibility? Hotel is booked but for a few smoking rooms. Who wants to stay in those?
I guess with the availability of febreeze, it shouldn't be too bad, but I am not sure about that. Someone would literally have to hose down the entire room with it.
Case and point, we stayed in a motel some years back. Happy to finally having found a motel after a long trip and being dead tired, we checked in just to find out that the only room available was 'smoking'. It took us a minute to get overwhelmed by the smell. It literally made me sick to my stomach. I ended up sleeping in the car and we threw out our suitcase.
 
bearpoker said:
Other people do pay the consequences for smoking. Starting with the discomfort of breathing the smoke polluted air and putting up with the filth and stench. Then it's on to health effects of second hand smoke. There's also the expense of healthcare for the smoker that is spread to non smokers through increased insurance costs.

That being said, smoking is legal, so I don't think there is anything wrong with an innkeeper providing guests with a safe and comfortable place to smoke, as long as doing so doesn't impact non smokers.
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I thought smokers had to pay more for their insurance and if I am right, how is that cost passed onto a non-smoker?

Yes it is a stinky dirty habit but if they were smoking in an area designated for them how is that going to impact anyone else? It isn't.

What bothers me is when a group of people want to dictate/control the actions of others when what they are doing is perfectly legal. I don't have to like it, but as long as it is legal then it should be allowed in an establishment if a proprietor wants to allow it in a designated area protecting non-smokers.

The last couple of years I have seen people in government pass or attempt to pass some very intrusive laws that dictate the size sodas one can purchase to the amount of salt that can be present in restaurant food and complete smoking bans. And now soda in many states has become the new sin tax. I think it has reached a level where people should be very concerned.
 
vesper said:
I thought smokers had to pay more for their insurance and if I am right, how is that cost passed onto a non-smoker?

Yes it is a stinky dirty habit but if they were smoking in an area designated for them how is that going to impact anyone else? It isn't.

What bothers me is when a group of people want to dictate/control the actions of others when what they are doing is perfectly legal. I don't have to like it, but as long as it is legal then it should be allowed in an establishment if a proprietor wants to allow it in a designated area protecting non-smokers.

The last couple of years I have seen people in government pass or attempt to pass some very intrusive laws that dictate the size sodas one can purchase to the amount of salt that can be present in restaurant food and complete smoking bans. And now soda in many states has become the new sin tax. I think it has reached a level where people should be very concerned.
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As a matter of principle, I oppose all sin taxes. I do not believe it is the legitimate function of government to punish people whose political voice has diminished simply to gain revenue. If it really is that bad and/or too costly to deal with, then be intellectually honest and make it outright illegal. If prohibition is untenable, then deal with it. But treat people equally.
 
I did not know they were not allowed.....IMO from a business perspective overall room availability could be reduced once a hotel allows smoking in certain rooms because most non smokers would not want these rooms - these rooms would smell of smoke since it gets into the carpets, furniture, drapes, etc. I don't think people who smoke in their homes/cars realize how bad it smells. It also makes it difficult to sell a home or car that was owned/occupied by smokers.
 
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