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Ford Moves to China- Would you Drive a Chinese Car?

Would you feel comfortable driving a Chinese car?

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Lord Tammerlain said:
The RS is made in Germany the ST in the US.

So I expect the St to move to China as well
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Think they'll do a cosworth RS?


Course, I'd never own one...the regular RS is rediculously expensive, IMO.
 
As for Chinese cars

Yes and I have been. Mostly domestic brands and VW'S made at either FAW or SAIC plants.

The domestic brands I would (5 years ago mind you) and the cheapest models at a level of US and Japanese cars back in the 90s. They were being used as Taxis
The foreign auto makers have just as good as quality as non Chinese plants. The Buick envision complaints are more to do with the nav system rather than build quality
 
KevinKohler said:
Think they'll do a cosworth RS?


Course, I'd never own one...the regular RS is rediculously expensive, IMO.
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Unlikely the RS is nuts as it is. To make it worthy of the Cosworth name it would be ridiculously expensive
 
DaveFagan said:
I think the Auto brouhaha has been caused by Auto Worker's Unions. Wages and benefits went out of sight forcing manufacturing overseas. It's still happening.
It might be good for the US if some individuals started up some boutique auto manufacturing.
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The USA is the only country on the planet to make automobiles WITHOUT union labor.
Every country from China to Brazil to India have collective bargaining unions. ALL OF THEM!
The cost of manufacturing labor is much much cheaper in UAW Detroit ($33/hr) than it is in Germany ($67/hr)
Too much "what history forgot" here.
Adding this:
GM was manufacturing in China two decades or so ago under a Chinese brand name. Ford only recently. This is what cost Fields his job (along with lagging far behind in technology and innovation)
 
texasedu said:
The USA is the only country on the planet to make automobiles WITHOUT union labor.
Every country from China to Brazil to India have collective bargaining unions. ALL OF THEM!
The cost of manufacturing labor is much much cheaper in UAW Detroit ($33/hr) than it is in Germany ($67/hr)
Too much "what history forgot" here.
Adding this:
GM was manufacturing in China two decades or so ago under a Chinese brand name. Ford only recently. This is what cost Fields his job (along with lagging far behind in technology and innovation)
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Fields did not have much to do.wuth Ford lagging in China


He only hit top job about 4 years ago.
 
Threegoofs said:
I already have one.

Some Volvos are made in China (and the company is 100% China owned).

It's not only something I'm comfortable with, I got t-boned in it and had no injuries...as the fireman said- 'you're lucky you were in a Volvo.'

We drove the Chinese Volvo - Business Insider
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Same here as a back seat passenger in a Volvo that got the accordion treatment on a snowy road. My only possible gripe was hearing the sound of the front and back getting the file folder treatment and feeling a jolt. The passenger cab wasn't as much as dented. Volvo could double as a nuclear bunker.

Chinese car maker Geely bought Volvo a couple of years ago. Their hopes are dashed already of ever selling Geely upgraded by Volvo in the USA car market. It's just comical Geely-Volvo thought they could ever pass off the Chinese make Geely in USA as a midprice sedan. In China they buy a Geely only if they can't buy a Chevy.

A big decision in buying a car in CCP China is whether to drive your own car or to hire a chauffeur. If you drive yourself then maybe you could buy a Toyota. But if you instead want a chauffeur then you're going to have to buy the Geely sedan that Americans won't ever consider buying. Most Chinese drive their own cars of course. So when you see a chauffeured Mercedes swoop in to park on the sidewalk in front of the restaurant door you know you're looking at Chinese money. In USA the guy would have to park in the lot around the corner and take his ticket. It's not encouraging either that the many Chinese driving on the sidewalk honk for you to get out of the way. Over there.
 
Since I don't have a driver's license, I don't feel comfortable driving any vehicle on public roadways and, as a general rule, avoid doing so.
 
rocket88 said:
Your question though, is the same thing people said about Japanese cars 50 years ago.
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American companies like Ford are shooting themselves in the head. Every American company that opens factories in China eventually has a million counterfeit products on the market, as creative theft is an accepted practice in China.

Personally, I think Americans will accept anything these days. We've been trained to pay higher prices, while receiving low quality products for years.
 
Unless I'm mistaken, the last of the "Buy American" tv ads appeared in the eighties. Manufacturing chains are so international that "buying American" almost exclusively means "assembled in America." Off the top of my head, I can't think of a common product where the manufacturing chain exists entirely in America.

So will I buy a car made in China? Well, we buy products made in China literally all the time. What's one more?
 
truthatallcost said:
Would you feel comfortable driving a car that is completely manufactured in China?
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If they start selling enough American cars to balance the import/export account, then I'm all for it.

If the choose to retain their mercantilist attitude, then screw them. They are just stealing technology anyway. They make and break the same promises over and over.
 
Cardinal said:
Unless I'm mistaken, the last of the "Buy American" tv ads appeared in the eighties. Manufacturing chains are so international that "buying American" almost exclusively means "assembled in America." Off the top of my head, I can't think of a common product where the manufacturing chain exists entirely in America.

So will I buy a car made in China? Well, we buy products made in China literally all the time. What's one more?
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In the 1980s we bought a Dodge van (Made in Canada) and a Chevy LUV pickup truck (Made by Isuzu of Japan). Last two "American made" vehicles until a real live made in America Ford Taurus SHO.... With a Japanese (Yamaha) modified high performance engine and a Mazda manual transmission.

Decided to drop all pretenses and have bought Japanese, European or Korean labeled vehicles.

At Chinese I draw the line though. At least until there are no more "American" cars.
 
truthatallcost said:
Would you feel comfortable driving a car that is completely manufactured in China?
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Aren't quite a few of our consumables produced in China these days?
 
truthatallcost said:
Would you feel comfortable driving a car that is completely manufactured in China?
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I don't think I would.

In the same vein, does anybody know where the new Dodge Neon is made?

Edit: Mar 15, 2016 - FCA is planning to sell a Dodge Neon again, but only in Mexico. And this time, it will be a rebadged version of the Fiat Tipo made in Turkey

Sorry, I didn't know the car was only being sold in Mexico.

I would never buy a car made in Turkey.
 
camlok said:
Would you feel comfortable driving a car that is made in the biggest war criminal/terrorist/crimes against humanity country, the USA?
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Lmao. Funny. Naive and liberal and stupid. But funny.


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Fledermaus said:
In the 1980s we bought a Dodge van (Made in Canada) and a Chevy LUV pickup truck (Made by Isuzu of Japan). Last two "American made" vehicles until a real live made in America Ford Taurus SHO.... With a Japanese (Yamaha) modified high performance engine and a Mazda manual transmission.

Decided to drop all pretenses and have bought Japanese, European or Korean labeled vehicles.

At Chinese I draw the line though. At least until there are no more "American" cars.
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I think today a lot of people buy the warranty more than the car as all the cars are the same anyway.
 
I doubt I would want one made at the Glorious People's Submarine Works, or whatever they call the place that makes their nuclear submarines. Just about every time they take the sorry things out, they spring leaks and have to put back to port.
 
Mason66 said:
I think today a lot of people buy the warranty more than the car as all the cars are the same anyway.
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10 year, 100,000 miles was the warranty on my 2003 Accent. Beat it like a rented mule, made it 130,000+ and gave it up because the transmission finally explosively gave up the ghost (I kept trying to baby a bad clutch. Fail for me ;))
 
Fledermaus said:
10 year, 100,000 miles was the warranty on my 2003 Accent. Beat it like a rented mule, made it 130,000+ and gave it up because the transmission finally explosively gave up the ghost (I kept trying to baby a bad clutch. Fail for me ;))
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How much more would you have gotten out of the car if you had replaced the transmission?
 
Mason66 said:
How much more would you have gotten out of the car if you had replaced the transmission?
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Don't know. Interior was pristine, engine strong, Body in great condition (After two crash repairs) and rattle free (Surprising given it was a Hyundai).

The occasional Engine Warning Light that suggested #4 cylinder was misfiring. Easily cleared with my reset tool.

I think the limiting factor would be the smog checks.

But my goal was 250,000. A little pie in the sky, but a guy has to hope.

Car was listed $10,500 new, $3,000 off that month. So $7,500 + tax and title. It was a no A/C, no auto-trans, no power anything stripper car.
 
Cardinal said:
Unless I'm mistaken, the last of the "Buy American" tv ads appeared in the eighties. Manufacturing chains are so international that "buying American" almost exclusively means "assembled in America." Off the top of my head, I can't think of a common product where the manufacturing chain exists entirely in America.

So will I buy a car made in China? Well, we buy products made in China literally all the time. What's one more?
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Well, I personally wouldn't because I wouldn't want to economically benefit China in anyway whatsoever... if I can avoid it... So I will gladly pay for Japanese or Korean car instead.
 
Fledermaus said:
Don't know. Interior was pristine, engine strong, Body in great condition (After two crash repairs) and rattle free (Surprising given it was a Hyundai).

The occasional Engine Warning Light that suggested #4 cylinder was misfiring. Easily cleared with my reset tool.

I think the limiting factor would be the smog checks.

But my goal was 250,000. A little pie in the sky, but a guy has to hope.

Car was listed $10,500 new, $3,000 off that month. So $7,500 + tax and title. It was a no A/C, no auto-trans, no power anything stripper car.
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A junkyard transmission would have fixed the car cheap.
 
Mason66 said:
A junkyard transmission would have fixed the car cheap.
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Transmission wasn't the problem. Clutch let go catastrophically taking out a hydraulic actuator (and it's tangs mounted on the engine block) blowing a couple more holes through the bell housing.

So it would have been Engine, clutch and clutch housing.

Done a few engine and/or transmission swaps solo. Not interested in more.

I got my $7,000 worth over ten years of use. Donated it.
 
Lottsa stuff is made in overseas. Donald Trump products (from clothes to vodka to pens to...) are made in China, the Netherlands, Mexico, India, Turkey, Slovenia, Honduras, Germany, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Vietnam and South Korea. Ivanka Trump clothes and shoes are made in China sweatshops.
 
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