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Four Referendums On Donald Trump

Are Trump Supporters Tired Of All This Winning?


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Trump has faced four "special referendums" after he dethroned Queen Hillary. And Republicans are 4-0 in all of them. Are Trump supporters tired of winning? I don't think so. And I bet Trump haters aren't tired of losing.


During his campaign Don Cheeto Orange Dingleberry PROMISED more than could possibly be imagined, and the strange thing is people fell for that pile of lies.

That is OK because people are free to choose their own form of misery & delusion.

Orange Dingleberry is nothing more than a 'snake oil salesman' .............. actually, he isn't even up to that level really.

He certainly is divisive; why even yesterday in Iowa he was STILL verbally ****ting on Democrats

Anyone that truly believes Orange Wonder Boy is gonna be anything positive for OUR nation is IMO just as delusional as Trump is


Me? I voted Gary Johnson ..................
 
I've heard the point already, and I understand such merit as there is in it. Take whatever comfort you can from that view. From my perspective, it surely looks as if the dems threw everything they had at that election - particularly cash - and still lost. I'd say you guys need a new plan. The old plan and the current one aren't working. Of course, again from my perspective, the old plan and the current one are the same plan. Hence the need for a new one.

We don't need a new plan. We're taking about Republican strongholds where no Democrat has been elected in decades and they generally lose by 20 points or more. There was no reasonable expectation that a Democrat would change decades of commitment enough to win these seats. The purpose was to take the temperature of the electorate to see how much opportunity there is to flip seats where that is usually a possibility. I'm not sure why you think a margin of victory in Republican strongholds that drastically shrinks to 3 measly points should be a point of concern for the Democrats. It should be a point of concern for Republicans in flip flop districts with midterms in mind.
 
During his campaign Don Cheeto Orange Dingleberry PROMISED more than could possibly be imagined, and the strange thing is people fell for that pile of lies.

That is OK because people are free to choose their own form of misery & delusion.

Orange Dingleberry is nothing more than a 'snake oil salesman' .............. actually, he isn't even up to that level really.

He certainly is divisive; why even yesterday in Iowa he was STILL verbally ****ting on Democrats

Anyone that truly believes Orange Wonder Boy is gonna be anything positive for OUR nation is IMO just as delusional as Trump is


Me? I voted Gary Johnson ..................
%&%_$ on Democrats as it stands now, is always in the best interests of this country.
 
Talking about the campaigns, and not the PACs. Handel raised and spent 4.5 million. Ossoff raised and spent 23.6.

Oh..so we're just supposed to ignore that Handel got most her funding from outside corporate donors and super PACS, is that it?
 
We don't need a new plan. We're taking about Republican strongholds where no Democrat has been elected in decades and they generally lose by 20 points or more. There was no reasonable expectation that a Democrat would change decades of commitment enough to win these seats. The purpose was to take the temperature of the electorate to see how much opportunity there is to flip seats where that is usually a possibility. I'm not sure why you think a margin of victory in Republican strongholds that drastically shrinks to 3 measly points should be a point of concern for the Democrats. It should be a point of concern for Republicans in flip flop districts with midterms in mind.

I'd say you guys should pick elections on which you place "national referendum" labels more carefully then. Perhaps you haven't been paying attention to exactly what amounts the DNC has been pulling in lately. If you think this was a great strategy, I encourage you to pursue more of it.
 
Oh..so we're just supposed to ignore that Handel got most her funding from outside corporate donors and super PACS, is that it?

Yeah, that's it. We'll just forget about exactly where Ossoff's funding came from. :roll:
 
I'd say you guys should pick elections on which you place "national referendum" labels more carefully then. Perhaps you haven't been paying attention to exactly what amounts the DNC has been pulling in lately. If you think this was a great strategy, I encourage you to pursue more of it.

Why? I think a swing of 18 percentage points away from a Republican who won by an eyelash in a district no Democrat has won in 40 years has some pretty good implications for Democrats in the midterms. Support for the GOP is waning considerably.
 
Why? I think a swing of 18 percentage points away from a Republican who won by an eyelash in a district no Democrat has won in 40 years has some pretty good implications for Democrats in the midterms. Support for the GOP is waning considerably.

You lost in spite of spending more money than anybody ever. Keep up the good work.
 
You lost in spite of spending more money than anybody ever. Keep up the good work.

Why did Handel refuse to speak trump's name or answer questions about trump's wealthcare ?
 
Yeah, that's it. We'll just forget about exactly where Ossoff's funding came from. :roll:

Ossoff's funding is transparent. The 20 million from GOP PACs isn't .
 
Oh..so we're just supposed to ignore that Handel got most her funding from outside corporate donors and super PACS, is that it?

Same as with the other 3 specials. You can tell how scared they are. They even defend the low road ads tying Ossoff to the Scalise shooting .
 
You lost in spite of spending more money than anybody ever. Keep up the good work.

The real story is that Handel and allies had to spend at least $17.2 million to eek out an unprecedentedly small margin of victory for an area of the country that voted for Trump and was at serious risk of going blue for the first time in 40 years. 3% and at such a cost in what was a Republican stronghold until now is something for Republicans to fear not gloat about.
 
Yeah, that's it. We'll just forget about exactly where Ossoff's funding came from. :roll:

Ossoff's funding came largely from outside individual donors....and Handel's came from outside corporate interests and super PACs. :shrug:
 
Same as with the other 3 specials. You can tell how scared they are. They even defend the low road ads tying Ossoff to the Scalise shooting .

Thats probably why she won, too.
 
Thats probably why she won, too.

DEMs know the GOP MO of taking the low road with ads. Pelosi isn't the only boogieman they'll use next year.

Anticipate ads such as those tying Ossoff to Scalise and Griffin. Stop underestimating the strength of right-wing hate radio and other media sources.

Develop ads ASAP to run against at-risk GOPs at all levels on the issues: trump's wealthcare, trump's voodoo budget, trump's cuts to his own voters;

You now have an idea of what's going to come at Dr. Allen in October; I hope she does too and is ready to fight back early and often before minds get made up .
 
Ossoff's funding came largely from outside individual donors....and Handel's came from outside corporate interests and super PACs. :shrug:

Not to mention the real nature of that spending. The Dems spent an enormous sum to convince voters who typically vote Republican to vote for a Democrat and they succeeded to a significant degree. The Republicans spent an enormous sum to convince their own base to vote for a Republican and they barely pulled it off.
 
Ossoff's funding is transparent. The 20 million from GOP PACs isn't .

The point is that despite spending a record amount, the left's chosen candidate still didn't win. Please don't float the canard that the political left's funding is pristine. I don't want to laugh that hard.
 
The real story is that Handel and allies had to spend at least $17.2 million to eek out an unprecedentedly small margin of victory for an area of the country that voted for Trump and was at serious risk of going blue for the first time in 40 years. 3% and at such a cost in what was a Republican stronghold until now is something for Republicans to fear not gloat about.

I think the real story is that the left and the DNC do not have enough appealing candidates and money to win.
 
Ossoff's funding came largely from outside individual donors....and Handel's came from outside corporate interests and super PACs. :shrug:

Most of Ossoff's money didn't come from anybody actually living in Georgia.
 
Thats probably why she won, too.

Then it's probably because the Dems have no credible answer for the Scalise's assassination attempt. Did Ossoff even condemn the attempted political assassination of Scalise's? It's relevant to point out that Ossoff supporters celebrated Scalise's assassination.
 
Then it's probably because the Dems have no credible answer for the Scalise's assassination attempt. Did Ossoff even condemn the attempted political assassination of Scalise's? It's relevant to point out that Ossoff supporters celebrated Scalise's assassination.

Dems aren't responsible for the attack on Scalise....so why do they need to answer for it? It's more likely that it was Republican rhetoric that inspired him to do what he did....not Democrats. In fact, on his facebook page he even mentioned Scalise....

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I'd say you guys should pick elections on which you place "national referendum" labels more carefully then. Perhaps you haven't been paying attention to exactly what amounts the DNC has been pulling in lately. If you think this was a great strategy, I encourage you to pursue more of it.

Which guys? Who called it that?
 
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