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What's the biggest threat to America?

What's the biggest threat to America?

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Easy, partisanship. Until you guys can start talking to each other again, you're ****ed.
 
I'd go with an option 4 - ourselves. We've gone so overboard in trying to make ourselves completely safe that we're willing to throw away the freedoms our founding generation died for.

But if I can't have that I'd go with partisanship. Not so much in government, though that is a problem, but in the citizenry. We don't think anymore. We're not open to the fact that our beliefs may well be wrong. We simply find some loudmouth in the media who spouts crap that aligns with our beliefs and say "see he agrees with me. I'm right." We're intellectually lazy and that is probably the biggest threat to our country.

But then I guess that also means that the biggest threat to is is us.
 
"So much for defanging the poisonous debate in Washington.

Dozens of congressional staffers erupted into boos, jeers and even vulgar gesticulations Thursday when President Trump appeared in a video at the Congressional Baseball Game at Nationals Park.

Mr. Trump delivered a message of unity, but some fans in the stands weren’t having any of it.

One man shouted an expletive at the video screen as Mr. Trump was telling the fans: “We are showing the world we will not be intimidated by threats.”

The episode marred what had been a night celebrating those wounded in Wednesday’s murderous attack on GOP players practicing for the game."

Congressional staffers boo Trump at unity baseball game - Washington Times

Kumbaya did not last long.
 
radcen said:
What's the biggest threat to America? Of these three: Democrats, Republicans, Partisanship.
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None of the above. IMO it's propaganda in the media, particularly conspiracy theories and incitement of racial hatred. EDIT: And deifying your favorite politician. The minute you start acting as if your politician were the messiah and can do no wrong, and any criticism of him is a literal attack against him, you have just shut down any rational discussion that needs to happen.

But just among the poll options, it's partisanship, followed by whichever party you hate more. ;)
 
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radcen said:
What's the biggest threat to America? Of these three: Democrats, Republicans, Partisanship.
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I voted partisanship, but that isn't quite right. It is more the hysterical pitch and oblivious destructiveness that has gripped the nation.
 
akyron said:
"So much for defanging the poisonous debate in Washington.

Dozens of congressional staffers erupted into boos, jeers and even vulgar gesticulations Thursday when President Trump appeared in a video at the Congressional Baseball Game at Nationals Park.

Mr. Trump delivered a message of unity, but some fans in the stands weren’t having any of it.

One man shouted an expletive at the video screen as Mr. Trump was telling the fans: “We are showing the world we will not be intimidated by threats.”

The episode marred what had been a night celebrating those wounded in Wednesday’s murderous attack on GOP players practicing for the game."

Congressional staffers boo Trump at unity baseball game - Washington Times

Kumbaya did not last long.
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Donald Trump is the last person on planet Earth that has any room to call for unity. The least he could do is apologize for all his deeply divisive rhetoric over the last couple of years, particularly since his term in office began.
 
Phys251 said:
Donald Trump is the last person on planet Earth that has any room to call for unity. The least he could do is apologize for all his deeply divisive rhetoric over the last couple of years, particularly since his term in office began.
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Yeah because law and order is so controversial.......

Media is very bad but leadership in washington is important as well.
 
radcen said:
What's the biggest threat to America? Of these three: Democrats, Republicans, Partisanship.
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I was very tempted to vote for Democrats, but then I realized that the problem is mostly from liberals, not Democrats.
 
akyron said:
"So much for defanging the poisonous debate in Washington.

Dozens of congressional staffers erupted into boos, jeers and even vulgar gesticulations Thursday when President Trump appeared in a video at the Congressional Baseball Game at Nationals Park.

Mr. Trump delivered a message of unity, but some fans in the stands weren’t having any of it.

One man shouted an expletive at the video screen as Mr. Trump was telling the fans: “We are showing the world we will not be intimidated by threats.”

The episode marred what had been a night celebrating those wounded in Wednesday’s murderous attack on GOP players practicing for the game."

Congressional staffers boo Trump at unity baseball game - Washington Times

Kumbaya did not last long.
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I wish I had seen this article before voting. It's not liberals: the entire Democratic party apparatus is rotten to the core. That festering pit of corruption and evil is spreading all over the nation poisoning everything it touches.
 
akyron said:
Yeah because law and order is so controversial.......

Media is very bad but leadership in washington is important as well.
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The problem is that a president needs to be a unifier in times of trial. And DT has destroyed just about any ability to be a unifier with petulant actions.

So the people, who are deeply divided now, are left to pick up the pieces themselves. That is not a good place for our country to be.
 
akyron said:
"So much for defanging the poisonous debate in Washington.

Dozens of congressional staffers erupted into boos, jeers and even vulgar gesticulations Thursday when President Trump appeared in a video at the Congressional Baseball Game at Nationals Park.

Mr. Trump delivered a message of unity, but some fans in the stands weren’t having any of it.

One man shouted an expletive at the video screen as Mr. Trump was telling the fans: “We are showing the world we will not be intimidated by threats.”

The episode marred what had been a night celebrating those wounded in Wednesday’s murderous attack on GOP players practicing for the game."

Congressional staffers boo Trump at unity baseball game - Washington Times

Kumbaya did not last long.
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If Trump is advocating for unity, and is actually changing his approach to acknowledge the country is more than his base, then I, as one of the biggest Trump haters on here, will give him a chance. It's fitting that he's the one to fix it, as he did more than any other individual to accelerate it. But I'm willing to cautiously consider the notion that maybe he's seeing his initial approach is ripping the country in half, and give him the space to try to turn things around. The reversal of his position around the "Dreamers" is a good start...
 
reinoe said:
I wish I had seen this article before voting. It's not liberals: the entire Democratic party apparatus is rotten to the core. That festering pit of corruption and evil is spreading all over the nation poisoning everything it touches.
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^^ People like this will delay this process of unification indefinitely. Folks on the right, this kind of fringe attitude is yours to sort out. I'll work on mine if you work on yours... ;)
 
OlNate said:
^^ People like this will delay this process of unification indefinitely. Folks on the right, this kind of fringe attitude is yours to sort out. I'll work on mine if you work on yours... ;)
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You're a Canadian. You don't know what you're talking about.

When both teams went to second base — the symbolic spot where Rep. Steve Scalise was wounded in the attack at the Alexandria practice field — to kneel and pray, some mocked the prayer, too. The fans appeared to be Democratic staffers, having booed the announcement of several members of the GOP lineup.
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What's the biggest threat to America? Americans.
 
The partisanship and the media bias and all that other crap are symptoms of the problem. The problem is an overly expansive federal government. If we scale back the scope of the central government all these other problems become regional issues rather than national issues and their effect will be greatly diminished.
 
reinoe said:
You're a Canadian. You don't know what you're talking about.
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Reinoe, polarization isn't problematic only in America. But thanks for furthering the example, for the purpose of discussion.

To the rest - this kind of response is why we need to take care of our own fringes. When faced with responses like this, of course one's initial response is to tell the person to **** off. That doesn't help drive unity at all.

If, instead, someone known to be on the right told Reinoe in no uncertain terms that his divisive language was not representational of the Right, and counter productive to the Right and the Left finding common ground to hold their governments accountable, which is what needs to happen in many places around the world, not only would I not have to tell Reinoe to **** off, driving further polarization and division, but I would see it as a sign that the Right is willing to address their fringe / problematic elements and are committed to unity.
 
radcen said:
What's the biggest threat to America? Of these three: Democrats, Republicans, Partisanship.
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Donald Trump.

He is an arrogant, ignorant, thin-skinned, impulsive man-child with narcissitic personality disorder. He is woefully (let me repeat woefully) unqualified to be president. We would all be much safer with a 17-year old Boys State winner at the helm.

Trump Lacks Temperament

Donald Trump?s Temperament Could Explain His Abysmal Poll Numbers | HuffPost
Richard Branson: 'Trump's Temperament Is Irrational, Aggressive and He Lacks Informed Ideas' | Mediaite

Trump is Dangerous
The dangerous rhetoric of Donald Trump | The Times of Israel
Donald Trump Is the Most Dangerous Man in the World - SPIEGEL ONLINE
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/world/europe/donald-trump-un-human-rights.html
http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21663225-why-donald-dangerous-trumps-america

Trump is ignorant
http://www.jjmccullough.com/index.php/the-ignorance-of-donald-trump/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...647fcce95e0_story.html?utm_term=.c1f4913a0ec7

Trump is a bad business man
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-worse-than-you-think-trumps-business-disaster-2016-03-04
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/07/opinion/sunday/trump-the-bad-bad-businessman.html
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election-2016-486091.html
http://www.dailywire.com/news/3729/donald-trump-successful-businessman-not-really-aaron-bandler
http://time.com/3988970/donald-trump-business/
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2068227,00.html

Trump is a racist
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racism-history
http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/

Breitbart and Alt-Right
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/04/28/breitbartcom-becoming-media-arm-alt-right
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/-breitbart-racism-dance
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/5-breitbart-conspiracy-theories-head-spin-article-1.2755173

The Psychology of Donald Trump
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/the-mind-of-donald-trump/480771/
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/a-n...at-may-be-wrong-with-trump-supporters-brains/
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/07/trump-and-sociopathy/491966/
http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2016/08/31/the-psychology-of-donald-trump-how-he-speaks/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...p-psychology-personality-republicans-election
http://www.shrinktank.com/psychologists-analysis-donald-trump/

Trump is a corrupt
http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-trumps-four-pinocchio-ratings-in-one-place/
http://www.salon.com/2017/02/13/wat...pathological-liar-donald-trumps-news-sources/
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/donald-trump-lies-liar-effect-brain-214658

Donald Trump has almost no qualities to suggest that he can even do the job.... and what we have seen to date is proof positive that he can not.

We were warned almost universally by the nation's press, but too many people did not listen. Now look at the mess we have in Washington, that isn't going to get any better until he is gone.
 
I voted partisanship. But a measure of partisanship is normal and healthy. I would say hyper-partisanship to be more concise.
 
Poll is a bit since the problem is always partisanship, not a political party per say.

The problem is Republican Partisanship and has been for over 10 years.. hell could argue since the Clinton administration and the Newt years.
 
Lutherf said:
The partisanship and the media bias and all that other crap are symptoms of the problem. The problem is an overly expansive federal government. If we scale back the scope of the central government all these other problems become regional issues rather than national issues and their effect will be greatly diminished.
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100% Agree
 
reinoe said:
I was very tempted to vote for Democrats, but then I realized that the problem is mostly from liberals, not Democrats.
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This post is an excellent example of what is wrong with America.
 
Phys251 said:
None of the above. IMO it's propaganda in the media, particularly conspiracy theories and incitement of racial hatred. EDIT: And deifying your favorite politician. The minute you start acting as if your politician were the messiah and can do no wrong, and any criticism of him is a literal attack against him, you have just shut down any rational discussion that needs to happen.

But just among the poll options, it's partisanship, followed by whichever party you hate more. ;)
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I completely agree, but I am assuming you think the bolded only comes from the other side without realizing the extent it comes from your own.

I think both parties need to take a long look in the mirror before bashing the other. There really is no difference in the tactics both use, the only differences are the actual policies and even then Republicans never actually do what they campaign on so at the end of the day both parties might as well be one and the same.
 
Phys251 said:
None of the above. IMO it's propaganda in the media, particularly conspiracy theories and incitement of racial hatred. EDIT: And deifying your favorite politician. The minute you start acting as if your politician were the messiah and can do no wrong, and any criticism of him is a literal attack against him, you have just shut down any rational discussion that needs to happen.

But just among the poll options, it's partisanship, followed by whichever party you hate more. ;)
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Agree. Both the left and the right are waaaaaaaaaaaay out of control spewing hatred, obstruction, and resistance. Nothing can get done and no compromises can be made. This is why Trump was elected, whether the left wants to believe it or not. This is not a defense of Trump. I find both sides equally guilty and equally blind in understanding what the voters want. The left mistakenly believes that if they regain power then everything will be fine. They don't have to change a damn thing but get the other side to lose.
 
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