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What's the biggest threat to America?

What's the biggest threat to America?


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It's not all that hard to discern the raw news from opinion. If you can't that's on you.

Are you saying that news organization don't spin the story to fit their agenda?

If you are not getting the facts it's hard to come to a reasoned view of the situation. That's that problem they don't report "raw news"!
 
Oh come on, I don't mean literally divide up the country. That wouldn't solve the problem anyway. Most states lean liberal or conservative by a relatively small percentage. It's just that we do fall into 2 very distinct and incompatible ideologies where compromise is not possible. It's all or nothing, with one side forcing their beliefs down the other's throats. We don't even like each other very much....the dialogue is filled with animosity and contention. We are not a United people with common interests like the name suggests. In fact we oppose each other at a very fundamental level.

It's like oil and water, the two just can not mix together easily. My science contrasts with religion made all the more poignant by advancements in technology. We drift further and further apart over time. Our world views are miles apart with the gap growing wider by the day.


Any political party is a threat to America no matter what their platform is. The Democrats and the Republicans parties are dictatorships fighting to be the dictatorship with the most power to dictate. The issues that you mentioned, no matter if one is for or against them is all tools for gaining power by these factions that we call political parties. Politicians have no integrity they exploit what gains them power, and make no mistake political parties are clubs for politicians. If for example you want to stop religion from interfering with science, politics is the wrong place to turn to. In politics it would turn into a bargaining chip and the players do give a **** about your cause only that they get to exploit it. If that bargaining chip can get then more power, or if tossing that chip gains them power, they go for the power either way. That is because factions die without power. The Democrat party doesnt care about the environment they only exploit it because the base does care. The same goes for religion; the Republican party couldn't careless but their base does so they exploit it. They are like a mega church exploiting their religion for financial gain.
 
What's the biggest threat to America? Of these three: Democrats, Republicans, Partisanship.

I just seen this. Without a doubt it is partisanship. I like the word polarization better although one leads to the other or polarization is caused by extreme partisanship. For most of my life I looked upon the two major parties as both wanting America to be safe, to prosper, to succeed. But each party had a different path to accomplish those goals. Yet, both parties did recognize the fact the other was out to make America successful, although the means differed.

I think that has been lost today. I no longer believe either party wants America to succeed, to prosper, to be that shinning city on the hill. I think both parties are only looking out for the good of their party, not the nation. If it weren't just for the good of the party, both would sit down together and work together at solving our problems, at making this nation the best possible nation in the world. But each party has discovered by not solving our problems, they have an election issue for the next election, one to fire up their base. Problems like healthcare, immigration, gun control, you name it are more valuable to each party as election issues than solving them. All in the search for votes. What the heck happened?
 
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Are you saying that news organization don't spin the story to fit their agenda?

If you are not getting the facts it's hard to come to a reasoned view of the situation. That's that problem they don't report "raw news"!

When the president says something the media will report on it. They will usually play a recording of the statement. If the reporter is asked to interpret the meaning, that interpretation comes through the filter of that reporter's background frame of reference. It's impossible for it not to. You and I do the same thing when recounting an event.

The media does present the facts. They also help the audience to understand the context, meaning, consequences of what occurred. They do that through the same type filters we all have developed and accumulated over our lives. We all have somewhat different filters though, no two of us have the same background which molds who we are.

Is that intentionally deceitful or disingenuous? I suppose if you are prone to conspiracy theories it may seem that way.
 
I just seen this. Without a doubt it is partisanship. I like the word polarization better although one leads to the other or polarization is caused by extreme partisanship. For most of my life I looked upon the two major parties as both wanting America to be safe, to prosper, to succeed. But each party had a different path to accomplish those goals. Yet, both parties did recognize the fact the other was out to make America successful, although the means differed.

I think that has been lost today. I no longer believe either party wants America to succeed, to prosper, to be that shinning city on the hill. I think both parties are only looking out for the good of their party, not the nation. If it weren't just for the good of the party, both would sit down together and work together at solving our problems, at making this nation the best possible nation in the world. But each party has discovered by not solving our problems, they have an election issue for the next election, one to fire up their base. Problems like healthcare, immigration, gun control, you name it are more valuable to each party as election issues than solving them. All in the search for votes. What the heck happened?

What happened is you latched onto a conspiracy theory and you believe it without evidence just because is seems to make sense.
 
What happened is you latched onto a conspiracy theory and you believe it without evidence just because is seems to make sense.

If the two parties wanted to solve the problems, they would be doing it or at least working on solving them. Polarization has either caused those in Washington to be party firsters or becoming party firsters has caused the polarization. Probably the latter.
 
If the two parties wanted to solve the problems, they would be doing it or at least working on solving them. Polarization has either caused those in Washington to be party firsters or becoming party firsters has caused the polarization. Probably the latter.

The two parties don't agree what the problems which should be addressed are. They have very disparate agendas. Both parties seek to block the other's agenda.

This isn't the fault of politicians, it's rather the consequence of two very different world views and ideologies held by the PEOPLE being incompatible with one another. We are not a united people and our political representatives merely reflect that disparity.
 
I'd go with an option 4 - ourselves. We've gone so overboard in trying to make ourselves completely safe that we're willing to throw away the freedoms our founding generation died for.

But if I can't have that I'd go with partisanship. Not so much in government, though that is a problem, but in the citizenry. We don't think anymore. We're not open to the fact that our beliefs may well be wrong. We simply find some loudmouth in the media who spouts crap that aligns with our beliefs and say "see he agrees with me. I'm right." We're intellectually lazy and that is probably the biggest threat to our country.

But then I guess that also means that the biggest threat to is is us.

For the win!! Nailed it.
 
Donald Trump is the last person on planet Earth that has any room to call for unity. The least he could do is apologize for all his deeply divisive rhetoric over the last couple of years, particularly since his term in office began.

So not holding my breath that he will ever apologize ................for anything.
 
I wish I had seen this article before voting. It's not liberals: the entire Democratic party apparatus is rotten to the core. That festering pit of corruption and evil is spreading all over the nation poisoning everything it touches.

So if you think that of the democratic party, what do you think of the GOP - that is selling their souls - Trump has a price tag on everything but the democrats are corrupted??:shock::beatdeadhorse
 
So not holding my breath that he will ever apologize ................for anything.

I don't think he's psychologically capable of apologizing. In fact, when is the last time he has made any sort of apology at all?
 
Donald Trump.

He is an arrogant, ignorant, thin-skinned, impulsive man-child with narcissitic personality disorder. He is woefully (let me repeat woefully) unqualified to be president. We would all be much safer with a 17-year old Boys State winner at the helm.

Trump Lacks Temperament

Donald Trump?s Temperament Could Explain His Abysmal Poll Numbers | HuffPost
Richard Branson: 'Trump's Temperament Is Irrational, Aggressive and He Lacks Informed Ideas' | Mediaite

Trump is Dangerous
The dangerous rhetoric of Donald Trump | The Times of Israel
Donald Trump Is the Most Dangerous Man in the World - SPIEGEL ONLINE
Donald Trump Is ?Dangerous? for Global Stability, U.N. Rights Chief Says - The New York Times
http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21663225-why-donald-dangerous-trumps-america

Trump is ignorant
http://www.jjmccullough.com/index.php/the-ignorance-of-donald-trump/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...647fcce95e0_story.html?utm_term=.c1f4913a0ec7

Trump is a bad business man
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-worse-than-you-think-trumps-business-disaster-2016-03-04
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/07/opinion/sunday/trump-the-bad-bad-businessman.html
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election-2016-486091.html
http://www.dailywire.com/news/3729/donald-trump-successful-businessman-not-really-aaron-bandler
http://time.com/3988970/donald-trump-business/
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2068227,00.html

Trump is a racist
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racism-history
http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/

Breitbart and Alt-Right
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/04/28/breitbartcom-becoming-media-arm-alt-right
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/-breitbart-racism-dance
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/5-breitbart-conspiracy-theories-head-spin-article-1.2755173

The Psychology of Donald Trump
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/the-mind-of-donald-trump/480771/
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/a-n...at-may-be-wrong-with-trump-supporters-brains/
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/07/trump-and-sociopathy/491966/
http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2016/08/31/the-psychology-of-donald-trump-how-he-speaks/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...p-psychology-personality-republicans-election
http://www.shrinktank.com/psychologists-analysis-donald-trump/

Trump is a corrupt
http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-trumps-four-pinocchio-ratings-in-one-place/
http://www.salon.com/2017/02/13/wat...pathological-liar-donald-trumps-news-sources/
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/donald-trump-lies-liar-effect-brain-214658

Donald Trump has almost no qualities to suggest that he can even do the job.... and what we have seen to date is proof positive that he can not.

We were warned almost universally by the nation's press, but too many people did not listen. Now look at the mess we have in Washington, that isn't going to get any better until he is gone.

:applaud:2dance::rock
 
Okay I suppose those would qualify as attributes. But the point was that he is hated because he isn't Hillary or whomever was voted for. From the moment he started gaining momentum and became any kind of threat, he was hated. The hatred went into high gear when he won the nomination. And it became a blazing inferno when he was elected. The haters did not and do not intend to give him any benefit of the doubt on anything or cut him any slack anywhere or allow him opportunity to govern for one day or one hour.

I have never seen anything like this in my quite lengthy lifetime.

And to put that within the perspective of the OP, in my opinion, that hatred wrapped in progressive militancy is the No. 1 threat to America.

Trump is hated because he is nothing but a reality tv star who used every trick he and the GOP could think of to get elected. He's hated because he's rude, crude and an ugly excuse for a human being.
He's made a mockery of our country. He doesn't know anything and thinks he's too smart to be bothered. Putin is playing him like a violin and many refuse to see it. He isn't non PC or telling it like it is. He's an old rich white guy that's mean spirited in the extreme. He absolutely cannot stop blaming everyone else for his problems.
Had a republican with some class and intelligence been elected, you would not hear this level of screaming.

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Americans at the bottom of the income scale are relatively well off, when compared with similar groups around the first world.

For now - I see it getting worse as more of the wealth is had by fewer.
 
What is fringe about protecting the environment? Seeking healthcare for all? Advancing medicine against religious zealots? Seeking equal rights for all, including women's reproductive issues and gays? Wanting to do something about gun violence?

One side fights against doing all that, always has and always will. They must be defeated if we are to make progress in those areas.

If we don't have clean air to breathe - the rest doesn't matter much.
 
i voted partisanship, and i believe that. But there's no balance in culpability between left and right today. Conservatives are trapped in a propaganda bubble.

I think conservative talk radio -- the limbaughs and hannities and savages -- have poisoned the discourse in this country. I know so many conservatives who listen to limbaugh everyday, insist that he's mostly correct, and chuckle to themselves knowingly when you point out his obvious distortions. It's a bully culture that has grown in the rural recesses and metastasized into trump.

yes!!
 
Trump is hated because he is nothing but a reality tv star who used every trick he and the GOP could think of to get elected. He's hated because he's rude, crude and an ugly excuse for a human being.
He's made a mockery of our country. He doesn't know anything and thinks he's too smart to be bothered. Putin is playing him like a violin and many refuse to see it. He isn't non PC or telling it like it is. He's an old rich white guy that's mean spirited in the extreme. He absolutely cannot stop blaming everyone else for his problems.
Had a republican with some class and intelligence been elected, you would not hear this level of screaming.

https://external-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...uXoAAlMsh.jpg:large&_nc_hash=AQCkRA2OaM6o7Xm9

I doubt that many independents who voted for Trump expected him to fill his cabinet with far right extremists. If that's what they had wanted someone like Ted Cruz would have gathered much more support in the primaries. What we now have is the far right conservative's dream come true.
 
For now - I see it getting worse as more of the wealth is had by fewer.

Actually, it depends on the sample you choose to look at. Take the US and you see lower to mid incomes in stagnation. Take the US together with China and you see remarkable increases in the income of the lowest quantiles. The same is true for time lines and the dimension you study. While the income increases seem to be stalling the average American spends only a small amount of her income on staples like food compared with her grandparents.
 
Trump is hated because he is nothing but a reality tv star who used every trick he and the GOP could think of to get elected. He's hated because he's rude, crude and an ugly excuse for a human being.
He's made a mockery of our country. He doesn't know anything and thinks he's too smart to be bothered. Putin is playing him like a violin and many refuse to see it. He isn't non PC or telling it like it is. He's an old rich white guy that's mean spirited in the extreme. He absolutely cannot stop blaming everyone else for his problems.
Had a republican with some class and intelligence been elected, you would not hear this level of screaming.

https://external-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...uXoAAlMsh.jpg:large&_nc_hash=AQCkRA2OaM6o7Xm9

I disagree. He is hated because he is not part of the permanent political class. He is not one of the insiders. One of the 'good old boys' that plays ball for the benefit of the insiders/permanent political class.

He is hated because he actually wants to do something good for the country, and a lot of that could interfere with the status quo that greatly benefits the professional politicians in government but does little or nothing for the rest of us.
 
Idiots are the biggest threat.
 
I disagree. He is hated because he is not part of the permanent political class. He is not one of the insiders. One of the 'good old boys' that plays ball for the benefit of the insiders/permanent political class.

He is hated because he actually wants to do something good for the country, and a lot of that could interfere with the status quo that greatly benefits the professional politicians in government but does little or nothing for the rest of us.

He's just one of the guys who our politicians actually work for.

Cutting out the middleman.

He's upsetting THEIR applecart. Threatening THEIR plans/investments.

Our government hasn't been a "thing" you can point to as the problem for a long time now.

Its just a tool used to manage us by those who pay for political campaigns
 
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