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The Covfefe Act

Is the Covfefe Act a good idea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 85.2%

  • No

    Votes: 2 7.4%

  • What kind of anti-Trump bull**** is this?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No poofters

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
americanwoman said:
I wonder what our great-great grandchildren will think of us when researching some of the gems that Trump tweeted. Can you imagine pulling records of a president from our great-great grandparents time and reading such nonsense? Did James Monroe ever call out his haters and the losers? :lol:
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I'm only twenty. I can't even imagine what my great-greats will say about this ****, but I'm determined to live long enough to tell them about it.
 
rocket88 said:
The Covfefe Act Has A Silly Name ? But It Addresses A Real Quandary : The Two-Way : NPR

The proposed law amends what records are kept by the National Archives from the President to include social media. Since that is Trump's preferred communication medium, what do you think of this?
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So here's my honest question.

Are phone calls that the president makes as a citizen, not as the President, recorded. IE, if he calls his mother, are they recorded? If he calls his friend about his Golf game, is that recorded?

Are emails from a Presidents private account a Presidential record? Always, never, sometimes? If they contain nothing at all relating to the Presidency? If they reference the Presidents opinion on a political matter but no "official" business? Or if talking "business"?

Were Reagan's "fireside chat" radio broadcasts Presidential Records?

Was the Op-Ed that President Obama penned for Newsweek considered a Presidential Record.

This isn't a smarmy question, but a serious one, because I don't know in many of those cases and it would impact my decisions here.

On one hand, a social media account of the President that's being used for their own private purposes does not seem like something that should be part of the public record. On the flip side, if the social media account is being used as a platform for providing the President's political messaging, I see no reason why it should be treated any different than instances where other media was used, such as Reagan's fireside chats. Thus, if those were presidential records, I see no reason why a collection of tweets...when used as a means of presenting the President's feelings, or views, to the public about a matter dealing with politics or the law...shouldn't ALSO be considered presidential records.

So essentially, I don't really think ALL social media interactions should be kept as a Presidential record...just like I wouldn't say that if Reagan taped an audio broadcast for a nephew saying "Happy birthday" that it should be a Presidential record. Instances on social media that are clearly personal and non-related in any real fashion to the role of the Presidency should be fine. HOWEVER, if the social media account is being used as a means of broadcasting the Presidents message about an issue, policy, politician, or other related issue to the American People, then yes it makes perfect sense that it should be considered a Presidential Record.
 
Jesse Booth said:
I'm only twenty. I can't even imagine what my great-greats will say about this ****, but I'm determined to live long enough to tell them about it.
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Good luck on that! That would be something worth living for, knowing your great-great grandchildren.
 
Seeing how this administration is going, this could very well be the most useful legislation to come from his Presidency...

Scholars of the future will talk of the Orange President who grabbed ******s and brought us the Covfefe act.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
Scholars of the future will talk of the Orange President who grabbed ******s ...
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No, they will not be talking of false claims as if they were real.
 
Excon said:
No, they will not be talking of false claims as if they were real.
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Have you somehow convinced yourself that the President didn't say this?

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Because there is audio...
 
Cigar said:
Actually Yes, BIG TIME ... how many Rockets ave Trump watched get launched in just the last 6 months?
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Sure thing. And why don't you tell us how many rockets. Do you even know?
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Given the changing times it makes sense to expand the scope of Presidential records keeping.

But what a juvenile name.
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Actually despite it being juvenile I think it's a pretty effective name, instantly recognizable meme that goes to the heart of the matter from whence the meme originated. It wouldn't get any mention at all if it was a bill by another name.

That being said Trump's tweets will never disappear whether they're kept in the national archives or not.
 
Zyphlin said:
So here's my honest question.

Are phone calls that the president makes as a citizen, not as the President, recorded. IE, if he calls his mother, are they recorded? If he calls his friend about his Golf game, is that recorded?

Are emails from a Presidents private account a Presidential record? Always, never, sometimes? If they contain nothing at all relating to the Presidency? If they reference the Presidents opinion on a political matter but no "official" business? Or if talking "business"?

Were Reagan's "fireside chat" radio broadcasts Presidential Records?

Was the Op-Ed that President Obama penned for Newsweek considered a Presidential Record.

This isn't a smarmy question, but a serious one, because I don't know in many of those cases and it would impact my decisions here.

On one hand, a social media account of the President that's being used for their own private purposes does not seem like something that should be part of the public record. On the flip side, if the social media account is being used as a platform for providing the President's political messaging, I see no reason why it should be treated any different than instances where other media was used, such as Reagan's fireside chats. Thus, if those were presidential records, I see no reason why a collection of tweets...when used as a means of presenting the President's feelings, or views, to the public about a matter dealing with politics or the law...shouldn't ALSO be considered presidential records.

So essentially, I don't really think ALL social media interactions should be kept as a Presidential record...just like I wouldn't say that if Reagan taped an audio broadcast for a nephew saying "Happy birthday" that it should be a Presidential record. Instances on social media that are clearly personal and non-related in any real fashion to the role of the Presidency should be fine. HOWEVER, if the social media account is being used as a means of broadcasting the Presidents message about an issue, policy, politician, or other related issue to the American People, then yes it makes perfect sense that it should be considered a Presidential Record.
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There's some things that could be private, but I think we both know that Trump's tweets amount to official statements.
 
americanwoman said:
I wonder what our great-great grandchildren will think of us when researching some of the gems that Trump tweeted. Can you imagine pulling records of a president from our great-great grandparents time and reading such nonsense? Did James Monroe ever call out his haters and the losers? :lol:
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I'm sure Monroe had his ways. We are talking about a time when a sitting Vice-President shot a former Secretary of the Treasury in a duel.
 
Excon said:
iLOL :lamo
You haven't refuted what I said.
Do you really not understand that?
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My god, all the Trump worship has warped your hold on reality worse than I thought. If its this bad halfway into his first year, I'd hate to see what it does to you after four.
 
rocket88 said:
I'm sure Monroe had his ways. We are talking about a time when a sitting Vice-President shot a former Secretary of the Treasury in a duel.
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So .... there have been politicians treated worse in our history. Interesting. :mrgreen:
 
ThoughtEx. said:
My god, all the Trump worship has warped your hold on reality worse than I thought. If its this bad halfway into his first year, I'd hate to see what it does to you after four.
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What is so bad? Be specific.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Next, people are going to want recording devices 24/7 on him.

I'm sure there are plenty of Trump haters archiving every tweet. Why should we create another government program to do what volunteers already do?
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I do not think the two are equivalent.

24/7 would mean things would go to the American people from a request for more toilet paper to a marital spat .

His tweets are intentionally delivered as a major line of communication between this POTUS and the American people. Why would they not be part of a record?

If these were personal/private tweets....they should be off limits.
 
coldjoint said:
What is so bad? Be specific.
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Whats so bad about Muslims? Be specific.

When you can answer that question like a normal human being, I might give your posts the time of day. Might being the key word.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
Whats so bad about Muslims? Be specific.

When you can answer that question like a normal human being, I might give your posts the time of day. Might being the key word.
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That is not what I asked. But I can be specific on the subject, how about you? What is so bad?
 
rocket88 said:
The Covfefe Act Has A Silly Name ? But It Addresses A Real Quandary : The Two-Way : NPR

The proposed law amends what records are kept by the National Archives from the President to include social media. Since that is Trump's preferred communication medium, what do you think of this?
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1) I'm surprised it's not already done.

2) Even if not done by the government, somebody somewhere keeps tabs.

3) I'm good with it. He's the President now and he doesn't (shouldn't) get the luxury of private citizen when it suits his whims. He asked for the job, and with the job comes public scrutiny.

4) He would have to sign the bill, though, and I don't see that happening. I also don't see enough bi-partisan support to override a veto.
 
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