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Voter Fraud

What is more of a greater concern?

  • The few who try to vote twice

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • The people with no photo ID who attempt to vote

    Votes: 7 20.0%

  • Dead people on the voter registry

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • The potential hacking of voter machines and registries

    Votes: 26 74.3%
  • Total voters
    35
  • Poll closed .
Tanngrisnir said:
What does any of that have to do with non-existent voter fraud?
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There is no way to get through to you. Keep listening to the California loudmouths De Leon, Camila Harris, Nancy Pelosi
& Maxine Watters they'll reassure you that California is voter fraud free, everything is on the up & up.
California where 1/3 of voters both legal & illegal will support the Cal-exit proposition next year, where the
legislature following the lead of DeLeon is hoping to install an ambitious proposal to create a single statewide insurance
plan for every Californian — including undocumented residents, single payer for all. I actually hope Cal-exit succeeds
maybe then Mrs. Clinton lifelong dream would be realized, she could become the new president of California.
 
slick said:
There is no way to get through to you. Keep listening to the California loudmouths De Leon, Camila Harris, Nancy Pelosi
& Maxine Watters they'll reassure you that California is voter fraud free, everything is on the up & up.
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You're the only one mentioning them and that has nothing to do with what I posted.
California where 1/3 of voters both legal & illegal will support the Cal-exit proposition next year, where the
legislature following the lead of DeLeon is hoping to install an ambitious proposal to create a single statewide insurance
plan for every Californian — including undocumented residents, single payer for all. I actually hope Cal-exit succeeds
maybe then Mrs. Clinton lifelong dream would be realized, she could become the new president of California.
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Wow. That full canvas jacket level unhinged nutbattery.

We're done here.
 
I think absentee and mail in ballots are vulnerable because we have no proof that those ballots were counted.

Also, allowing the military overseas to vote using the internet is vulnerable to hacking.

And too, the battleground states that use certain software and electronic voting machines are also vulnerable to tampering.

And of course...voter suppression is a big problem.
 
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phattonez said:
Given that Americans never even voted for this in the first place, how is this anything but treason?
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It needn't be treason just because it's un-American. ;)
 
phattonez said:
Given that Americans never even voted for this in the first place, how is this anything but treason?
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If everything you don't like is treason, then treason has no meaning.
 
Middleground said:
So many times over the last few years I have seen countless threads whining about voter fraud and how so many people commit it, and we need ID cards to keep it under control --- yada, yada, yada -- yet facts tell us that voter fraud is about as rare as it gets:

Between 2000 and 2010, there were:
649 million votes cast in general elections
47,000 UFO sightings
441 Americans killed by lightning
13 credible cases of in-person voter impersonation

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/voter-id-laws-charts-maps/

Many times I have brought up the idea that the greater threat to fair elections would be the hacking of voting machines and/or voting regestries. Do you not think it's a more viable concern -- especially after today's top secret leak where it seems the Russians were pretty active in trying to disrupt American democracy by their phishing and attempts to hack when it's unsure how successful they were.
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Why are you introducing actual facts into this discussion?
 
Moot said:
If everything you don't like is treason, then treason has no meaning.
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No, this isn't about me just not liking it. This is about directly subverting the will of the nation to accomplish your own political ends. That is the definition of treason.
 
Middleground said:
So many times over the last few years I have seen countless threads whining about voter fraud and how so many people commit it, and we need ID cards to keep it under control --- yada, yada, yada -- yet facts tell us that voter fraud is about as rare as it gets:

Between 2000 and 2010, there were:
649 million votes cast in general elections
47,000 UFO sightings
441 Americans killed by lightning
13 credible cases of in-person voter impersonation

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/voter-id-laws-charts-maps/

Many times I have brought up the idea that the greater threat to fair elections would be the hacking of voting machines and/or voting regestries. Do you not think it's a more viable concern -- especially after today's top secret leak where it seems the Russians were pretty active in trying to disrupt American democracy by their phishing and attempts to hack when it's unsure how successful they were.
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If you don't verify that the person who shows up at the polling place is the same person who registered, how can you possibly know if there is voter fraud or not?
 
Kal'Stang said:
Show the law, and the methodology that requires citizenship to be checked for voting.
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No. You move the goalposts, you answer the question yourself.
 
phattonez said:
The US population is 13.5% foreign born. 27% of California is foreign born. And yes, those people are voting.
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As long as they're citizens what difference does it make if they're foreign born?

Former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was foreign born.
 
Deuce said:
No. You move the goalposts, you answer the question yourself.
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No goalpost was moved. I asked a question. You answered in the affirmative. I asked you to prove it. So prove it. Or will you just continue to avoid answering it because you know that it is impossible to show since there is no such law and studies do not check citizenship status of those that voted.
 
Moot said:
As long as they're citizens what difference does it make if they're foreign born?

Former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was foreign born.
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Context is everything Moot. phattonez was responding to a post which claimed that there is no foreign electorate in the US. Phattonez showed that there is indeed a foreign electorate. That does not require one to believe that it makes a difference or anything else that your post implies.
 
upsideguy said:
Voter suppression is a much bigger threat (in orders of magnitude) to our election process than a few people that weren't suppose to vote, actually voting.

Effective voter suppression methods employed in Wisconsin and North Carolina MAY have HELPED Trump win.

How voter ID laws helped Donald Trump win the presidency - Salon.com
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There's no such thing as voter suppression. It's not hard to register to vote. If a person doesn't get it done they are the only ones suppressing their own vote.
 
phattonez said:
The white non-Hispanic population is falling drastically. It's outright population replacement.
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Seems that way! 20 million 3rd world new residents from 1970 to now, with no growth in population among whites.
In twenty more years unless this nonsense is stopped California will resemble Brazil more than it resembles Florida or Ohio.
Thank goodness for Trump he will try his hardest to stem the tide.
 
Kobie said:
You're not wrong, in an ideal world. However, what is the acceptable number of legal voters disenfranchised by arduous requirements to prevent one illegal voter from casting a ballot? Because every (and I mean EVERY) proposed or passed voter ID bill I've seen would shut thousands of otherwise perfectly legal voters out of the booth.
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"arduous"? Really? No. None of the proposed laws were arduous. Not a single one. If a person can't get registered to vote then they didn't really want to vote to begin with. It's not hard.
 
phattonez said:
No, this isn't about me just not liking it. This is about directly subverting the will of the nation to accomplish your own political ends. That is the definition of treason.
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The will of the people is represented in congress. To call that treason is stupid and dilutes the meaning of treason.
 
"A month after county officials were unable to answer questions raised about discrepancies in the March election results, a hushed meeting was held last week between a ballot machine vendor, county officials and representatives of the incumbent state representative… but did not include those who uncovered the problems. Texas Scorecard‘s Tony McDonald first reported on Thursday that county records indicate nearly 1,800 more votes were cast in Hill County than there were voters."

https://empowertexans.com/around-texas/nearly-1800-more-votes-than-voters/
 
Kal'Stang said:
Context is everything Moot. phattonez was responding to a post which claimed that there is no foreign electorate in the US. Phattonez showed that there is indeed a foreign electorate. That does not require one to believe that it makes a difference or anything else that your post implies.
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It was also shown that a lot of the foreign born electorate are "citizens"...including the former governor of California, the state that Phat is whining about.

So as long as the foreign born electorate are citizens...then what difference does it make?
 
Moot said:
As long as they're citizens what difference does it make if they're foreign born?

Former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was foreign born.
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Because Americans didn't vote for immigration levels that would drown out their vote. When the 1965 immigration act was passed, we were promised no significant changes to the composition to our country, and that it wouldn't be a major change. It was all lies. And now they're continuing it because they know they're getting voters, while American votes are drowned out. It's so easy to prove too.

Look at what the election results would have been in 2012 if only whites voted.

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These are basically the results that we would have had if not for immigration.
 
VanceMack said:
CBS4 Investigation Finds Dead Voters Casting Ballots In Colorado « CBS Denver

Dead people voting. Not just voting by mail, but voting in person.
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Before I even read the link, I know what it's going to say.

Names were matched between people who have died and people who have voted. Turns out, the matches are pretty much always just people with same or identical names. You don't think there are two Sara Sosa's in El Paso? :lamo

Numerous reports of this nature spring up over the years. Investigation happens. Every single time, the result is the same: a handful, or often zero, actual fraudulent votes. Purging the "dead" voters often results in still-living voters being disenfranchised. Especially in Republican states, for some reason...
 
Moot said:
The will of the people is represented in congress. To call that treason is stupid and dilutes the meaning of treason.
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Those who told us that the 1965 Immigration Act would not drastically change immigration in this country lied. It was treason.
 
Moot said:
It was also shown that a lot of the foreign born electorate are "citizens"...including the former governor of California, the state that Phat is whining about.

So as long as the foreign born electorate are citizens...then what difference does it make?
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Because Americans didn't want them to become citizens.
 
Deuce said:
Before I even read the link, I know what it's going to say.

Names were matched between people who have died and people who have voted. Turns out, the matches are pretty much always just people with same or identical names. You don't think there are two Sara Sosa's in El Paso? :lamo

Numerous reports of this nature spring up over the years. Investigation happens. Every single time, the result is the same: a handful, or often zero, actual fraudulent votes. Purging the "dead" voters often results in still-living voters being disenfranchised. Especially in Republican states, for some reason...
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Perhaps you should have read it. You would sound less willfully ignorant.
 
VanceMack said:
Perhaps you should have read it. You would sound less willfully ignorant.
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I did read it.

"A vote was cast in their name." That does happen sometimes, but, upon investigation, is usually just a person with the same name showing up and casting a perfectly legitimate vote that gets recorder under the wrong person's identity.

There's a reason you people always link the articles discussing the start of investigations rather than the conclusions of said investigations.
 
Phys251 said:
Oh noes, think of the oppressed white peoplez! :lamo.
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Keep it up. All the bull**** the left speaks about 'white privilege', 'only whites can be racist', etc, is a big part of why you lost the election of 2016.

Your agenda is bad for most Americans, and only benefits the ultra rich and the DNC.
 
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