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Is Elizabeth Warren worse than Hillary Clinton?

Is Elizabeth Warren worse than Hillary?

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TurtleDude said:
Lieywatha is a malignant pimple on the ass of America. She's a hateful us vs them divider of America who used her fake native American non-heritage to get a prestigious and highly paid (over 300K for one class) teaching position in a school that never appoints whites from third rate law schools to such positions. She whines about corporate America while being a rich fat cat.
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Yep, someone taking $300K to teach a single class is definitely what we need to help control the high cost of college. ;)
 
Every time a left wing female is mentioned on this site, there are a few posters I can list off the top of my head that I know will be in there calling her vile things. A couple of them are already here, several are missing.

I think Warren is great and I hope to see her running in 2020. With HRC out of the picture we might be able to get a large roster of candidates again, maybe even a few more debates not at 3am during the Superbowl on Memorial day weekend.
 
When it comes to politics? Yes, she's worse.
 
Elizabeth Warren is Bernie Lite. She is a flaming typical leftist hypcortie, not very well spoken, and when she is pushed beyond her blather and rhetoric, collapses and deteriorates. The GOP should ENCOURAGE her to run and promote her as the 'candidate they fear the most'.
 
Verax said:
Every time a left wing female is mentioned on this site, there are a few posters I can list off the top of my head that I know will be in there calling her vile things. A couple of them are already here, several are missing.

I think Warren is great and I hope to see her running in 2020. With HRC out of the picture we might be able to get a large roster of candidates again, maybe even a few more debates not at 3am during the Superbowl on Memorial day weekend.
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Why do you think she is great? Other than epitomize typical leftist hypocrisy on teh eeeeeeeeebil banks, what has she ever done that has qualified her as 'great' as a senator, let alone as a potential presidential candidate?

I think she is a great choice for the DNC to support as well. Especially if they want to run the next "only candidate Trump could beat".
 
Bucky said:
When I see Elizabeth Warren on TV, I see a woman that is simply unhinged. She is always yelling or complaining about something, I really think she is going mad.

IMO Elizabeth Warren is like one of those smug college professors that lives in the world of theory and doesn't understand how real Americans live. I really don't understand how her proposals would be good for America. Doubling the corporate tax rate when the U.S. already has one of the highest CTR's in the world? She wants the IRS to prepare taxes for us, implement a Robin Hood tax for every financial transaction?

Clearly Elizabeth Warren wants to be President but I could see her being even more divisive than Hillary. How on earth would Elizabeth Warren bring bipartisan agreements with such hatred?

Warren is the worst type of liberal. I really hope Democrats start to distance themselves from such a volatile and aggressive person.
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If you talking ideological wise, then yes, to a conservative Warren would be worst than Hillary Clinton. To a progressive, she would be better than Clinton. To those in the middle, the center, center right and center left, who knows? Warren doesn't have the baggage Hillary had. She is basically an unknown outside of Massachusetts and the Northeast. That is except for political junkies who inhabit sites like this one.

Democrats from the Northeast haven't fared too well recently. Clinton NY losing to Trump, Kerry Mass losing to Bush II, Dukakis Mass losing to Bush I. You have to go back to JFK for a Democratic winner coming out of the Northeast. Then the Northeast was more or less Liberal Republican territory, Rockefeller Republican country. Democratic winners, LBJ Texas, Carter Georgia, Bill Clinton Arkansas, Obama Illinois. See a pattern here.
 
VanceMack said:
Why do you think she is great? Other than epitomize typical leftist hypocrisy on teh eeeeeeeeebil banks, what has she ever done that has qualified her as 'great' as a senator, let alone as a potential presidential candidate?

I think she is a great choice for the DNC to support as well. Especially if they want to run the next "only candidate Trump could beat".
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She runs along the same vein as Bernie which I think is exactly what America needs most right now. She is very smart and isn't afraid to stand up to the institutions that impoverish and exploit Americans by the millions.
 
Verax said:
She runs along the same vein as Bernie which I think is exactly what America needs most right now. She is very smart and isn't afraid to stand up to the institutions that impoverish and exploit Americans by the millions.
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SMH

And why do you think Bernie didnt stand a chance in not only the presidential elections, but the CNN debates held after the election?

I mean...I agree...she is a less talented version of Bernie...with no plan, promoting an ideology that has destroyed every country its been implemented in, and blathers about banks while rolling in campaign contributions. I dont question her IQ or capacity, but have you ever watched her testify? Have you ever seen her have to explain he ideas and proposals? Im being quite serious here....have you?
 
I agree with the poster who said she is more like Bernie....I also think Warren cares more about the overall well-being of people in this country than your average politician...much like Bernie. She appeals to a lot of folks because she speaks with common sense on many issues.
 
VanceMack said:
SMH

And why do you think Bernie didnt stand a chance in not only the presidential elections, but the CNN debates held after the election?

I mean...I agree...she is a less talented version of Bernie...with no plan, promoting an ideology that has destroyed every country its been implemented in, and blathers about banks while rolling in campaign contributions. I dont question her IQ or capacity, but have you ever watched her testify? Have you ever seen her have to explain he ideas and proposals? Im being quite serious here....have you?
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:yawn:
 
Trump has lied 586 times since he was inaugurated, but Republicans will always have that one time Warren said she was a Native American.

Priorities!
 
Cardinal said:
Trump has lied 586 times since he was inaugurated, but Republicans will always have that one time Warren said she was a Native American.

Priorities!
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This post is 5 minutes old now. I would imagine Trump's lie counter has incremented since then.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
This post is 5 minutes old now. I would imagine Trump's lie counter has incremented since then.
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I wonder how the people who have to collate and fact-check every Trump statement feel about their job. By the four hundredth lie, did the concept of truth become as abstract and meaningless to them as it is to Trump?
 
Verax said:
:yawn:
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Ladies and gentlemen...the American leftist.

Congrats dood. You epitomize why we have President Trump.


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It would be hard to top losing to Donald J. Trump. Just saying.
 
VanceMack said:
Ladies and gentlemen...the American leftist.

Congrats dood. You epitomize why we have President Trump.


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American leftists voted for Trump!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? :doh:roll:
 
Conflicted on Warren; she's either someone who's willing to compromise on her principles for her party per her refusal to endorse Bernie or run in 2016 (TBH, I think Bernie entered the primary precisely due to her not doing so given he declared his candidacy shortly after she confirmed she wasn't going to run), or at best, she decided to try to play the long game to achieve her legislative goals, seeking to accrue more influence and sway in the Dem party by appeasing Clinton's camp.

In either event, there's no way she's worse than a judgement deprived corporate shill like Clinton.
 
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Surrealistik said:
Conflicted on Warren; she's either someone who's willing to compromise on her principles for her party per her refusal to endorse Bernie or run in 2016 (TBH, I think Bernie declared he was running in the primary precisely because she didn't run as he entered the race not long after she confirmed she wouldn't), or at best, she decided to try to play the long game to achieve her legislative goals, seeking to accrue more influence and sway in the Dem party by appeasing Clinton's camp.

In either event, there's no way she's worse than a judgement deprived corporate shill like Clinton.
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How is refusing to endorse Bernie putting her morals into compromise? If anything, it makes her more appealing than both Clinton and Bernie combined, since she has put herself above the petty, childish infighting unfolding in the Democratic Party. Bernie should just nut the **** up, leave the Democratic Party, form his own - new - third party, and LOSE, like a big boy. If anyone can save the Democrats from Wall Street military-industrialists like Clinton, it is Elizabeth Warren. They will NEVER accept an Independent. They have made it quite clear they would rather have eight disastrous, apocalypse-inducing years of Trump than President Sanders.
 
Bucky said:
When I see Elizabeth Warren on TV, I see a woman that is simply unhinged. She is always yelling or complaining about something, I really think she is going mad.

IMO Elizabeth Warren is like one of those smug college professors that lives in the world of theory and doesn't understand how real Americans live. I really don't understand how her proposals would be good for America. Doubling the corporate tax rate when the U.S. already has one of the highest CTR's in the world? She wants the IRS to prepare taxes for us, implement a Robin Hood tax for every financial transaction?

Clearly Elizabeth Warren wants to be President but I could see her being even more divisive than Hillary. How on earth would Elizabeth Warren bring bipartisan agreements with such hatred?

Warren is the worst type of liberal. I really hope Democrats start to distance themselves from such a volatile and aggressive person.
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She's not "worse" in that she lacks that very nasty side to her that Hillary has. She is however, in her views and ideas, equally a bad idea for America.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
How is refusing to endorse Bernie putting her morals into compromise? If anything, it makes her more appealing than both Clinton and Bernie combined, since she has put herself above the petty, childish infighting unfolding in the Democratic Party. Bernie should just nut the **** up, leave the Democratic Party, form his own - new - third party, and LOSE, like a big boy. If anyone can save the Democrats from Wall Street military-industrialists like Clinton, it is Elizabeth Warren. They will NEVER accept an Independent. They have made it quite clear they would rather have eight disastrous, apocalypse-inducing years of Trump than President Sanders.
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Because she's supposedly aligned with Bernie's ideals, yet when it comes time to show political courage and back him in defiance of her party, she doesn't.

Again, I accounted for the best case scenario, which is that she didn't compromise on her principles so much as that she's trying to angle for more power and sway in the Dem party in order to more advantageously position herself, get her ideas implemented and reform it internally... just like Sanders did when he ultimately endorsed Clinton and continues to commit his utmost best efforts into keeping the party afloat after it sustained one of its worst electoral losses in history (despite the ungrateful protestation of establishment Dem voices who bemoan his growing influence). Either way, Warren wasn't 'above the fray', she was making a calculated political decision; it's not especially contemptible, but on the other hand, there is nothing particularly noble about that.

Also, I don't think even the establishment Dems _really_ want Sanders to move on to a third party, though the Repubs would love it: that'd be sure to split the progressive/left vote and massively weaken the Dem party both for this reason, and the loss of Sander's advocacy, thereby keeping the GOP in power.

Lastly, no one person can save the Dems from monied corruption; only grassroots efforts being made per Justice Democrats and the like to systemically primary corrupt candidates will.
 
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I doubt Warren would win the general election. Not because she's like Hillary Clinton - she's not. But it's too easy for the Republicans to paint her as another Hillary Clinton. The Republicans campaign platform would simply be; "You rejected Hillary Clinton, an old, female Senator from a rich, liberal stronghold. So, in response to this, the Demcorats have decided to nominate Elizabeth Warren, an old, female Senator from a rich, liberal stronghold. They're still ignoring you - only the Republican Party is trying to listen." Unfair? Yep. But when has that ever stopped a politician?
 
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