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Should Dean of Yale be Fired for Racist Remarks?

Should Yale Dean be fired for racist comments online?

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Vox said:
You go there.

I doubt it can help you, though.

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Well, you've literally claimed that one word is derogatory, and another isn't - even though the definition of both is lists them as derogatory.

This is pretty tough for you. I'll slow the process down .
 
truthatallcost said:
Apparently June Chu made other 'racist remarks' online, but the CBS story doesn't say what those were. I doubt that she would still have a job if she'd insulted Asian or black customers by using a racial slur.

Should June Chu lose her job as a dean at Yale University?
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No, and if the right is going to keep making excuses for President Trump's language and behavior, they need to grow a ****ing backbone and stop wailing like entitled little brats.
 
I am absolutely sick of this politically correct bull****.

She said 'white trash'? Big, ****ing deal.

And it was in her private life for ****'s sake.


NO..she should NOT be fired (based on what I know of this).

It is none of the university's ****ing business what she does in her spare time unless it DIRECTLY affects the university in a VERY bad light.

And by 'directly affects' - -I do not mean do weak, pathetic, spineless PC wimps freak out when they saw what she did and say they will not go to Yale. I mean does it directly and substantially put Yale University in a bad light with normal human beings who actually have a spine.

I don't care if she is an alcoholic, smokes dope in huge quantities, has a sexual fetish for well hung 'black guys', thinks all white men are wimps and often states how she thinks fat people are disgusting to look at. Just so long as she is sober/straight on the job and keeps her home life separate from her professional life.


Jeez...you gutless PC'ers are destroying free speech in America. And it appears that young people (under 30) seem to be leading the charge to turning us all into vanilla mannequins.
I remember when youth meant rebelliousness and do/say whatever the **** you want. That seems to be the opposite today.
 
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Ikari said:
Damn you Jeff Foxworthy!!!!!
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He has fooled an entire generation of rednecks into believing that redneck isn't derogatory and made millions.
 
Hatuey said:
He has fooled an entire generation of rednecks into believing that redneck isn't derogatory and made millions.
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It isn't.

It is only in the last generation or two that PC'ers have decided that it is. All it meant for many generations before that was 'poor, 'white', southern farmers. And sometimes just southern, 'white' working people.

'By 1910, the political supporters of the Mississippi Democratic Party politician James K. Vardaman—chiefly poor white farmers—began to describe themselves proudly as "rednecks," even to the point of wearing red neckerchiefs to political rallies and picnics.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck#Political_term_for_poor_farmers

I am not going to argue this because I doubt your mind is open on this fact.

But the truth is that the term is NOT derogatory in origin. But people like you have decided that now it is derogatory.


Good day.
 
Hatuey said:
Well, you've literally claimed that one word is derogatory, and another isn't - even though the definition of both is lists them as derogatory.

This is pretty tough for you. I'll slow the process down .
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I'll try to help you, too. The English language can be tough.

In post #160 I said, "Seriously?

'Round here.......redneck is a compliment."

Get it now?

It depends on where you are.

Obviously, you're in the wrong place.

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Hell Yeah!!!




:ind:
 
Absentglare said:
No, and if the right is going to keep making excuses for President Trump's language and behavior, they need to grow a ****ing backbone and stop wailing like entitled little brats.
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DA60 said:
I am absolutely sick of this politically correct bull****.

She said 'white trash'? Big, ****ing deal.

And it was in her private life for ****'s sake.


NO..she should NOT be fired (based on what I know of this).

It is none of the university's ****ing business what she does in her spare time unless it DIRECTLY affects the university in a VERY bad light.

And by 'directly affects' - -I do not mean do weak, pathetic, spineless PC wimps freak out when they saw what she did and say they will not go to Yale. I mean does it directly and substantially put Yale University in a bad light with normal human beings who actually have a spine.

I don't care if she is an alcoholic, smokes dope in huge quantities, has a sexual fetish for well hung 'black guys', thinks all white men are wimps and often states how she thinks fat people are disgusting to look at. Just so long as she is sober/straight on the job and keeps her home life separate from her professional life.


Jeez...you gutless PC'ers are destroying free speech in America. And it appears that young people (under 30) seem to be leading the charge to turning us all into vanilla mannequins.
I remember when youth meant rebelliousness and do/say whatever the **** you want. That seems to be the opposite today.
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Fishking said:
I would say no, if I was voting on an honest case-b-case premise but voted "yes" to uphold the current standards the are imposed by the left on the right. Do do otherwise would be hypocritical. Maybe if it they were held to the same standard then they might see how ridiculous they can be.
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Fishking- I included you here, just to gauge your opinion of the NYT story below. I know you're much more sane than the other 2 I quoted. :lol:
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Did this woman deserve to be fired?

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/...id-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html?_r=0

She never directly used any racial slurs. Answer honestly please.
 
Vox said:
I'll try to help you, too. The English language can be tough.
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Specially when the English language appears in a dictionary which states it is derogatory. :lol:
 
truthatallcost said:
Fishking- I included you here, just to gauge your opinion of the NYT story below. I know you're much more sane than the other 2 I quoted. :lol:
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Did this woman deserve to be fired?

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/...id-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html?_r=0

She never directly used any racial slurs. Answer honestly please.
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She was 'senior director of corporate communications'. I do not know exactly what her job entailed and who her target clients were. So I cannot answer the question. What she said did not bother me at all other than the AIDS 'white' remark which made me cringe a bit.
If she did a lot of work with 'black' AIDS patients or AIDS patients in Africa or with Africans period...that would not be a smart thing for her to say publicly and could hurt sales.

But if she was not in the communications field...I DEFINITELY would NOT fire her for her comments. It would mean nothing to me.

Just rather stupid comments from a woman...but she is entitled to her stupid comments (depending on her job duties).


As for the Dean of Yale comments hurting enrollment? Only a dumb ass moron goes to a university for the Dean.

When I was at university, I did not care who the Dean was or what they did in their spare time...assuming it was not violent AND illegal. It could have been a trained seal for all I cared.

I do not recall in my entire life EVER hearing someone say 'gee, I am going to that university because of the Dean'.

OR

'I am NOT going to that university because of the Dean'.
 
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Hatuey said:
Specially when the English language appears in a dictionary which states it is derogatory.
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I'll try to help you, too. The English language can be tough.

In post #160 I said, "Seriously?

'Round here.......redneck is a compliment."

Get it now?

It depends on where you are.

Obviously, you're in the wrong place.

Obviously, the dictionary is in the wrong place, too.

Get it now? It depends on where you are.......not some damned dictionary.

:ind:
 
Absentglare said:
No, and if the right is going to keep making excuses for President Trump's language and behavior, they need to grow a ****ing backbone and stop wailing like entitled little brats.
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Absentglare said:
I don't see how your post in any way responds to mine.
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I don't see how your post in any way pertains to the OP.
 
truthatallcost said:
I don't see how your post in any way pertains to the OP.
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Oh, sure, let me explain to you.

The right hypocritically cries out in terror against the "offensive" speech of private people while aiding and abetting the most lewd president we've had in five generations.
 
truthatallcost said:
Apparently June Chu made other 'racist remarks' online, but the CBS story doesn't say what those were. I doubt that she would still have a job if she'd insulted Asian or black customers by using a racial slur.

Should June Chu lose her job as a dean at Yale University?
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She should join Bob Beckle at the unemployment line.
 
Hatuey said:
From your source. LITERALLY the first sentence:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck#Political_term_for_poor_farmers



We done here?
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Hello? That is the recent dictionary that has been affected by PC'ers like you.

The term was NOT derogatory for generations and I know for a fact that many in the south call themselves rednecks and do not look upon it as derogatory to this day. Obviously, you know few 'normal' people from the south. 'Normal' meaning not infected with PCitis...like you are.

The dictionary is interpreting a standard...not strictly defining a word.

If the very people whom the term describes generally do not feel it is derogatory...than DUH...it is NOT derogatory.

But no...you being arrogant (apparently). You determine that whatever you say goes...whether the facts back it up or not.


You are mistaken and I am correct on this. The word 'redneck' is ONLY derogatory to PC types like you.

Now...we are done on this.

Why...because I say so... ;)

Bu bye now.
 
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ecofarm said:
Her comments do no harm at a societal level.
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Speaking negatively in a snarky way about a business generally is not good for business. Had she just said this is a trashy place then it would be unlikely there would be an issue at all.

By singling out a group out of the population simply based on skin color she MADE them the minority and indicated they would happily tolerate this terrible place of business.

Its a symptom of a basic lack of class or decorum in the atmosphere today. Started many years ago and is coming to a head more and more. It is not over.

Regardless of her point of view her judgement in creating a minority and casting them in a generalized negative light is a case for review by her employer. Yale will decide if they want that type of person representing them or not. The parents of students attending Yale will have to decide if thats the type of person they want supervising their children. The easy way is to send her off to do free arts and crafts with bob beckle. That would be an interesting conversation.

This is a time honored method of dehumanizing that is a step closer to violence. Some have already reached the end of that road.
 
akyron said:
Speaking negatively in a snarky way about a business generally is not good for business. Had she just said this is a trashy place then it would be unlikely there would be an issue at all.

By singling out a group out of the population simply based on skin color she MADE them the minority and indicated they would happily tolerate this terrible place of business.

Its a symptom of a basic lack of class or decorum in the atmosphere today. Started many years ago and is coming to a head more and more. It is not over.

Regardless of her point of view her judgement in creating a minority and casting them in a generalized negative light is a case for review by her employer. Yale will decide if they want that type of person representing them or not. The parents of students attending Yale will have to decide if thats the type of person they want supervising their children. The easy way is to send her off to do free arts and crafts with bob beckle. That would be an interesting conversation.

This is a time honored method of dehumanizing that is a step closer to violence. Some have already reached the end of that road.
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She did not speak derogatorily against whites as a whole. She did not contribute to systemic privilege or disadvantage. She did not claim whites are inferior. Nothing racist about what she said. No societal damage. Whites will continue to enjoy privilege, even poor whites.
 
ecofarm said:
She did not speak derogatorily against whites as a whole. She did not contribute to systemic privilege or disadvantage. She did not claim whites are inferior. Nothing racist about what she said. No societal damage. Whites will continue to enjoy privilege, even poor whites.
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Where will it end?

'White trash' spoken on your own time online is grounds for dismissal?

White trash? If that is the worst thing anybody ever calls me - I would love it.

What is next?

That person looks bad in that dress. FIRED.

'White' people are melanin-inferior. FIRED.

'Your boyfriend smells like cheese' FIRED.

'I hate the colors of aqua, pink, white and tan'. FIRED.

'I hate...' FIRED.

'I think...' FIRED.
 
Kal'Stang said:
No I don't believe she should be fired. Her Yelp reviews were done on her private time and does not reflect on Yale itself. No matter what anyone says. What a person does on their own private time and while not on the job does not equal automatically associate with their job/business. Let her be.
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Yes I'm sure if a very high level, public face of your company was calling people racially charged names, hurting your brand as it were, you'd just say "So what, it was private time..."
 
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