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Did Hillary Clinton win the popular vote?

Did Hillary Clinton win the popular vote?

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radcen

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In your opinion, did Hillary Clinton win the popular vote?

I guess it depends on how you define "win". On the one hand, she did have the most votes, which might suggest she won. On the other hand, she did not eclipse 50%, which might suggest that nobody "won", she just had more than the others.

States even have different laws regarding whether or not a plurality is sufficient to gain office or if there needs to be a run-off election, so there is not consensus to the question.

What say you?
 
Asking if she won the popular vote is like asking if a football team won the first quarter. There is no prize for getting the most votes nationally.

Edit: better football analogy: getting the most popular votes is like getting the most yards in a football game. The measuring stick for winning is points, not yards in football, and electoral votes, not popular votes in a presidential election.
 
Did she get more popular votes? Yes. Did she 'win' anything? Dont be silly. There isnt a contest for the popular vote. But if it makes everyone feel better, they could give her a trophy or something.
 
Redress said:
Edit: better football analogy: getting the most popular votes is like getting the most yards in a football game. The measuring stick for winning is points, not yards in football, and electoral votes, not popular votes in a presidential election.
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Goddamn your ninja edit. I was quoting your post to LITERALLY give that analogy, it's my go to analogy.

The electoral college is the score of a game.

The popular vote is the yardage.

If John Madden was a political analyst and was asked for the key to the game, he'd go "The candidate who gets more electoral votes is going to win".
 
Zyphlin said:
Goddamn your ninja edit. I was quoting your post to LITERALLY give that analogy, it's my go to analogy.

The electoral college is the score of a game.

The popular vote is the yardage.

If John Madden was a political analyst and was asked for the key to the game, he'd go "The candidate who gets more electoral votes is going to win".
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Edit: I did not know you used that analogy, but I was thinking of you when I went with a football analogy over hockey.

Edit 2: is it really a ninja edit when you announce it?
 
radcen said:
In your opinion, did Hillary Clinton win the popular vote?

I guess it depends on how you define "win". On the one hand, she did have the most votes, which might suggest she won. On the other hand, she did not eclipse 50%, which might suggest that nobody "won", she just had more than the others.

States even have different laws regarding whether or not a plurality is sufficient to gain office or if there needs to be a run-off election, so there is not consensus to the question.

What say you?
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Um....yes?

And that's not my opinion. It's a matter of historical fact.

Is somebody arguing otherwise?
 
radcen said:
In your opinion, did Hillary Clinton win the popular vote?
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Wait...this is still an issue? I thought it had been settled months ago. As in, November 2016.
 
radcen said:
In your opinion, did Hillary Clinton win the popular vote?

I guess it depends on how you define "win". On the one hand, she did have the most votes, which might suggest she won. On the other hand, she did not eclipse 50%, which might suggest that nobody "won", she just had more than the others.

States even have different laws regarding whether or not a plurality is sufficient to gain office or if there needs to be a run-off election, so there is not consensus to the question.

What say you?
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If the counts were correct, she did win the popular vote. However, that's not how we elect a president.
 
Hillary was the plurality winner of the PV, wacking Trump by 3 million.

Trump in fact knows that eleven million MORE voted AGAINST him than for him.
 
radcen said:
In your opinion, did Hillary Clinton win the popular vote?

I guess it depends on how you define "win". On the one hand, she did have the most votes, which might suggest she won. On the other hand, she did not eclipse 50%, which might suggest that nobody "won", she just had more than the others.

States even have different laws regarding whether or not a plurality is sufficient to gain office or if there needs to be a run-off election, so there is not consensus to the question.

What say you?
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Of course she won the popular vote. The premise of the OP is a sad attempt at moving the goal posts. There is no requirement of getting a certain percentage to "win" the popular vote...its whoever has the most votes.
 
Who cares, that isn't how we elect a President in this country. It is irrelevant.
 
disneydude said:
Of course she won the popular vote. The premise of the OP is a sad attempt at moving the goal posts. There is no requirement of getting a certain percentage to "win" the popular vote...its whoever has the most votes.
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Take a Valium and ease your CT mind. It's a deceptively simple question with no ulterior motive. Just asking how others measure a "win" when there's a plurality instead of a majority.
 
radcen said:
Take a Valium and ease your CT mind. It's a deceptively simple question with no ulterior motive. Just asking how others measure a "win" when there's a plurality instead of a majority.
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Looks like everyone had about the same reaction to the ridiculous question. Carry on.....
 
radcen said:
In your opinion, did Hillary Clinton win the popular vote?

I guess it depends on how you define "win".
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No, it doesn't.

The "popular vote" is based on which candidate received the most total votes in the national election.

Clinton beat Trump by nearly 3 million votes.

She won the popular vote. She lost the electoral college.

The fact that anyone who visits this board doesn't know that, or can't accept that, is pretty weird. And a bit sad.
 
JamesBY said:
Hillary was the plurality winner of the PV, wacking Trump by 3 million.

Trump in fact knows that eleven million MORE voted AGAINST him than for him.
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The revolution has begun, notice the flood of illegals has been almost stopped by the Trump Administration
preventing what happened to Califirnia from spreading throughout the entire country:

California popular vote
clinton 8,753,788
trump 4,483,810

So Clinton derived her entire popular vote plurality in one state where she won by over 4 million votes
In the other 49 states combined Trump led by almost 2 million votes

Considering the sanctuary cities in California allowing anyone with 10 fingers and 1 nose to cast a ballot
maybe you should reconsider how Clinton was able to manage her popular vote victory!

Los Angeles County
Clinton 2,464,000
Trump 769,364

San Francisco
Clinton 345,084
Trump 37,688

California is 60% minority populated. Latins 39%, Asians 16%, Blacks 7%. ' California is no longer
the paradise over the mountains for Americans ut it is a far better place for Mexicans than is Mexico.


Santuary Cities where illegals easily cast ballots were virtually the only places that Clinton could
win that's the truth & that's disgraceful!
 
In colloquial language usage, yes ... Hillary won the popular vote.
 
Please forgive my crazy ass question:

But what exactly is the point of this thread....??
 
disneydude said:
Looks like everyone had about the same reaction to the ridiculous question. Carry on.....
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"Follow the herd" is the same mentality that gives us Donald Trump. Color me not impressed.

Besides, if it's so ridiculous you wouldn't have come back even if summoned by a quote.
 
JamesBY said:
Hillary was the plurality winner of the PV, wacking Trump by 3 million.

Trump in fact knows that eleven million MORE voted AGAINST him than for him.
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Hmmm, eleven million? Isn't that the estimated number of illegals in this country.
 
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