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Do you support the Trumpcare plan that just passed the House

Do you support the Trumpcare plan that just passed the House

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 3.3%
  • Leaning Yes

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Leaning No

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • No

    Votes: 24 80.0%

  • Total voters
    30
This poll is premature...until the bill goes for reconciliation after the Senate gets to mark up the bill and vote on it (which isn't a given) and the house agrees to the changes it is premature judge to the house bill.

The poll is based on the condition it's in as it passed the House.
 
This poll should really only be answered by people who have actually read the bill. Not sure why it is important to know what the uninformed think.

In that case a lot of the congressmen who voted for it wouldn't be allowed to participate in the poll either.

I support the Trumpcare plan because it's important to destroy everything Obama worked to build.

Shocking to see hyperpartisan reinoe choosing hyperpartisanism over the welfare of his countrymen out of sheer spite for Obama. Who cares if it's good or effective, as long as tears down anything Obama did, right?
 
I support the Trumpcare plan because it's important to destroy everything Obama worked to build.

Except the AHCA bill does not do that - it is an attempt to "fix" PPACA not to simply repeal it. Rest assured that the Senate version (of renaming PPACA) will be quite different. ;)
 
How can anyone form a opinion on a unfinished bill? It will be kicked around like a football 25 times between the house and senate before the orange buffoon gets to sign it.

But, the usual hacks are already in formation I see. :lamo
 
How can anyone form a opinion on a unfinished bill? It will be kicked around like a football 25 times between the house and senate before the orange buffoon gets to sign it.

But, the usual hacks are already in formation I see. :lamo

It is actually quite easy - the AHCA bill does not remove federal control over "private" medical care insurance or remove federal subsidies for that "private" good/service. Were those not the key objections to PPACA and the primary reasons to wish to repeal it? As far as the penalty for a lapse in coverage (mandate?) goes - that still remains but the "private" insurance companies will now collect it instead of the government.
 
In that case a lot of the congressmen who voted for it wouldn't be allowed to participate in the poll either.
I don't disagree with that. Republicans ramming through a partisan bill that few have read is in no ways better then democrats ramming through a partisan bill that few has read. The only thing sillier is taking a poll of people opinions on a bill that no one has read. All that will generate is second hand posturing and talking points



Shocking to see hyperpartisan reinoe choosing hyperpartisanism over the welfare of his countrymen out of sheer spite for Obama. Who cares if it's good or effective, as long as tears down anything Obama did, right?
Hopefully you will hold in that same contempt people on your side who 'choose hyperpartisanism over the welfare of his countrymen out of sheer spite for Trump.' Because there is an awful lot of that going around too.
 
Pro tip: if your position is "boy, I sure hope the Senate changes this substantially," you're probably a "no."
 
Do you support the Trumpcare plan that just passed the House

no. i support single payer.
 
Leaning no - we do not benefit from ObamaCare lite. I fear that Trump and the republicant congress critters are so desperate for for a legislative "win" that they will fool themselves into accepting damn near anything as "phase one".

The demorats thought that PPACA would help them and soon found out that the sheeple are just not that stupid. When you advertise a $2.5K annual savings on insurance premiums and then try to say we really meant to say "the cost would go up more slowly" even the demorat leaning sheeple will react.

The way I see it is that we failed miserably in the creation of the PPACA because of basic misunderstanding of the subject, and trying to do too much all at once. There were too many parts that needed to function in harmony to achieve worthwhile results, and many of those parts involved unfounded assumptions on how the average consumer would react to the new marketplace.

I lean Yes only because I don't think we can be any more successful in taking a huge step in the opposite direction. The plan has always been to do it in stages, this being only the first stage.
 
The way I see it is that we failed miserably in the creation of the PPACA because of basic misunderstanding of the subject, and trying to do too much all at once. There were too many parts that needed to function in harmony to achieve worthwhile results, and many of those parts involved unfounded assumptions on how the average consumer would react to the new marketplace.

I lean Yes only because I don't think we can be any more successful in taking a huge step in the opposite direction. The plan has always been to do it in stages, this being only the first stage.

First of all we must define the problem and all terms used in that process. Step one is to define what medical care insurance is supposed to accomplish. Insurance is meant to cover the rare, unexpected and expensive events in life - not to simply add the expense of a middle man for routine maintenance costs. Imagine what car insurance premiums would cost if mandated to cover worn tire replacement, oil changes, car washing/waxing and periodic repainting at "no added out of pocket cost".
 
I haven't looked at the details too much, but from what I have seen, no, I don't support it. It removes too many protections related to pre-existing conditions, which were one of the best parts of Obamacare, flawed though it was.
 
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