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Does Trump Herald the End?

Are we near the 'End of Days' with Trump?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 8.7%

  • No

    Votes: 18 78.3%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Total voters
    23
  • Poll closed .
ThoughtEx. said:
Were you under the impression we magically appeared from nowhere after they all died? Some version of us, probably a burrowing mammal survived the extinction of the dinosaurs. Otherwise we wouldn't be here...
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Whatever survived Dinopocalypse was a pretty far cry from "humans."
 
Kobie said:
Whatever survived Dinopocalypse was a pretty far cry from "humans."
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But whatever it was eventually became us, so we in a sense are them only better. If they could survive it, so can we.
 
grip said:
Does the world end soon or is it far in the unknown future?

I ask this because so many people seem to think Trump is some kind of anti-Christ, which I actually don't.

Do I believe the world is technically moving faster than it can keep up with? You decide. Are other Nations getting an itchy finger on their weapons for resources sake?
Again, you decide. These are strange days though.
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Yes, the end of days are here.

Trump ----> trumpets ---> seven trumpets???

Coincidence? I think not.
 
grip said:
Does the world end soon or is it far in the unknown future?

I ask this because so many people seem to think Trump is some kind of anti-Christ, which I actually don't.

Do I believe the world is technically moving faster than it can keep up with? You decide. Are other Nations getting an itchy finger on their weapons for resources sake?
Again, you decide. These are strange days though.
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It's not that i think President Trump will, personally, end the world. I suspect we have more than one person with the courage of Jamie Lannister that could hit the brakes on the implementation of a situation that would result in unnecessary catastrophic loss of life.

However, there is a lot of theory in this field of philosophy of technology. I hope i don't bore you too much, but the gist of it is that the progression of technology means that humanity has increasing control over the world around us. It's likely only a matter of time before that power grows so large, and that control reaches so far into the depths of human despair, that catastrophe results.

Even when we are well-intended, technology can have unintended consequences (like CFCs, DDT, Fukushima/Chernobyl).

Well what about if someone like Dylan Roof gets his hands on something with the power of a nuclear weapon? You might argue "society will never equip someone that dangerous with that much power." But the election of President Trump betrays that. People didn't vote for President Trump because of who he was, they voted for him because of who he wasn't. Think about how terrifying that prospect is.

We cannot recklessly embrace every new technology, every economic advancement without inheriting risk. It's simply not possible. We have to balance economic interests with caution and vigilance.

It's like a group goes to a huge party, then when they're leaving, they choose the drunkest person as the designated driver. That level of ignorance and shortsightedness demonstrates how checked-out of the political process Americans have become.

Philosophers are very concerned with authenticity and honesty. President Trump is a sophist, a rhetorical buffoon. He's a used car salesman, a snake oil salesman. He sold the American public a fraudulent bill of goods. We should be very concerned about the consequences of being so wrapped up in our own individual lives that we spend so little energy holding our leadership accountable.

There's one more thing. President Trump's corrupt kowtowing to the oil and coal industries will have meaningful lasting consequences on the stability of Earth's environment. There's a big problem with that, "one planet, one experiment," ~E.O. Wilson.

Leadership that fails to seriously consider the consequences of being wrong will surely doom us all.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
But whatever it was eventually became us, so we in a sense are them only better. If they could survive it, so can we.
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My concern has never been for life on Earth. In many conceivable doomsday-type scenarios, insects and bacteria are likely to survive.

It's more about the viability of the planet to sustain human life. The conditions of supporting billions of human beings are immeasurably delicate, even the seemingly smallest changes could disrupt that balance.
 
Absentglare said:
My concern has never been for life on Earth. In many conceivable doomsday-type scenarios, insects and bacteria are likely to survive.

It's more about the viability of the planet to sustain human life. The conditions of supporting billions of human beings are immeasurably delicate, even the seemingly smallest changes could disrupt that balance.
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Oh by the time Earth can't support human life at all, there won't be billions and billions of us. And we are pretty good at adapting to any environment. We won't be completely wiped out, and once our numbers are brought low the Earth can repair itself relatively quickly. All we have to do is avoid the inevitable war lords that will spring up across the wasteland for a couple generations then we'll be back to building up civilization.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
But whatever it was eventually became us, so we in a sense are them only better. If they could survive it, so can we.
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If we survived a 6-mile asteroid strike, it would only be our technical know-how that permitted it. We're just too big to survive as a species otherwise. It will be something very small with very few requirements that will make it through any kind of global apocalypse without technology.
 
Cephus said:
If we survived a 6-mile asteroid strike, it would only be our technical know-how that permitted it. We're just too big to survive as a species otherwise. It will be something very small with very few requirements that will make it through any kind of global apocalypse without technology.
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I think you are selling us short. I'm more worried about a super volcano than I am an Asteroid. For one, our tech prob could handle an asteroid if we spotted it in time. Doesn't take much to alter trajectories in space. And even if it hit us and cause a nuclear winter on the opposite side of the planet while vaporizing this one. We've gotten through ice ages with nothing more than spears and loincloths.

A super volcano would suck tho...
 
ThoughtEx. said:
I think you are selling us short. I'm more worried about a super volcano than I am an Asteroid. For one, our tech prob could handle an asteroid if we spotted it in time. Doesn't take much to alter trajectories in space. And even if it hit us and cause a nuclear winter on the opposite side of the planet while vaporizing this one. We've gotten through ice ages with nothing more than spears and loincloths.

A super volcano would suck tho...
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Like I said, if we survive these things, it won't be nature that does it, it will be our technology.
 
Cephus said:
Like I said, if we survive these things, it won't be nature that does it, it will be our technology.
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It's been that way since we started poking sticks in logs to get ants. Our tech has always been a factor, we just have more of it now. Even if it all went away tomorrow, we would still use tools to adapt to our environment as needed. That's why we are top of the food chain.
 
Trump's no more a herald for the End, than Obama was.

All the partisanism, & divisiveness however, seems to better fill the bill.
 
grip said:
Does the world end soon or is it far in the unknown future?

I ask this because so many people seem to think Trump is some kind of anti-Christ, which I actually don't.

Do I believe the world is technically moving faster than it can keep up with? You decide. Are other Nations getting an itchy finger on their weapons for resources sake?
Again, you decide. These are strange days though.
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The world could end today, at least for mankind or it may be a million years from now. Whether mankind's end comes about via an comet or asteroid hitting the earth like the extinction of the dinosaurs, who knows? Mankind might blow himself up, unleash a pandemic or we may have a super volcano erupt. Solar flares, sunspots, a magnetic shift of the poles, all sorts of things could bring the end of man or at least throw what few that is left back into caveman status.

If the world does come to an end under Trump one can be sure regardless of the reason, the Democrats will blame him. Mankind will cease to exist when it is time for man to become extinct like the dinosaurs and other species that has bit the dust. Everything is impermanent, comes to an end. So too will mankind, the earth, the sun, this galaxy, the universe and more. It's all a matter of time.
 
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