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When the Democrats take back the Presidency and Senate, should they expand SCOTUS?

The next time the Dems are in power, should they expand SCOTUS?

  • Yes, to 11 seats.

    Votes: 1 20.0%

  • Yes, to 15 seats

    Votes: 2 40.0%

  • Yes, but only by one seat

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No, GOP obstructionism and cheating should be rewarded

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • Total voters
    5
Re: When the Democrats take back the Presidency and Senate, should they expand SCOTUS

CamaradaJose17 said:
The GOP blatantly took a massive dump on the Constitution by stealing a Supreme Court seat. The seat that Neil Gorsuch currently occupies rightfully belongs to Merrick Garland.

The GOP refused to hold hearings for Garland for an entire year, despite there being a constitutional requirement to ADVISE and CONSENT to the President's Supreme Court picks.

And after Trump won the election via the outdated electoral college with the help of Russian hacking, the GOP senate illegitimately eliminated the "nuclear option" to force a far right justice into the seat that rightfully belonged to Merrick Garland.

The next time the Democrats have power in the Presidency and the Senate (which will likely be in 2020, assuming Trump isn't impeached before then.), they should expand SCOTUS to 11 seats. They can nuke the legislative filibuster to achieve any changes in the law necessary to make this happen. Then they can appoint two progressive, rational, young justices to the court to even out the blatant cheating of the GOP in 2016/2017.

Conservatives may say: "oh, we'll just expand it to 15 justices when we take power again." But guess what? You will NEVER take power again after 2020. Trump is the last GOP president in history. The conservative base of old white men is dying out VERY quickly, and as the younger generations become more and more diverse, the voting power of the GOP will decline rapidly after 2020, ensuring that you never win another election. This fact is made even more so by the fact that if we expand SCOTUS to 11 members, we will fire up an entire base of young, motivated progressives who don't usually vote, doubling our voters in all future elections.

My fellow progressives may say: "we shouldn't sink down to their level." No, we sure as hell should. This is a full blown civil war now, and our side is on the right side of history. We CANNOT keep fighting with one hand tied behind out back. We need to be ruthless and merciless in dismantling the power of the GOP, so that our forward thinking, progressive vision of America will win out over their message of hate and darkness. Now is NOT the time to "play fair." This is the time to fight with everything we have, against an enemy that have proven themselves traitors to this country.

There is no reason for the Democratic party not to expand the court the next time they have the power to do so.
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At the rate the Democrats are losing power, will they even exist in 2020?
 
Re: When the Democrats take back the Presidency and Senate, should they expand SCOTUS

Jack Fabulous said:
At the rate the Democrats are losing power, will they even exist in 2020?
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You can tell by his ridiculously biased poll that he is having a really hard time coming to grips with that.
 
Re: When the Democrats take back the Presidency and Senate, should they expand SCOTUS

Helix said:
needs different poll options.
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poll needs to be flushed down the porcelain bowl :mrgreen:
 
Re: When the Democrats take back the Presidency and Senate, should they expand SCOTUS

I get the impression that CamaradaJose17 posts a rantful screed then runs away from defending it. Amirite ??
 
Re: When the Democrats take back the Presidency and Senate, should they expand SCOTUS

Jack Fabulous said:
At the rate the Democrats are losing power, will they even exist in 2020?
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be honest now, if the republicans do not preform and let down the people that put them in office, we will see a turn around
 
Re: When the Democrats take back the Presidency and Senate, should they expand SCOTUS

Master PO said:
be honest now, if the republicans do not preform and let down the people that put them in office, we will see a turn around
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Most of the time I would not have posted hackish flame-bait like that but considering the OP I thought it appropriate.
 
Re: When the Democrats take back the Presidency and Senate, should they expand SCOTUS

hanger4 said:
I get the impression that CamaradaJose17 posts a rantful screed then runs away from defending it. Amirite ??
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Or maybe I have a busy life and I like to try and stimulate discussion and debate, and then return to the debate I started once I get off school/work/life...
 
Re: When the Democrats take back the Presidency and Senate, should they expand SCOTUS

CamaradaJose17 said:
Or maybe I have a busy life and I like to try and stimulate discussion and debate, and then return to the debate I started once I get off school/work/life...
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Fair enough. You might want back off on the vitriol, well poisoning and informal fallacies if you truly wish to stimulate discussion and debate. Just sayin.
 
Re: When the Democrats take back the Presidency and Senate, should they expand SCOTUS

CamaradaJose17 said:
The GOP blatantly took a massive dump on the Constitution by stealing a Supreme Court seat. The seat that Neil Gorsuch currently occupies rightfully belongs to Merrick Garland.

The GOP refused to hold hearings for Garland for an entire year, despite there being a constitutional requirement to ADVISE and CONSENT to the President's Supreme Court picks.

And after Trump won the election via the outdated electoral college with the help of Russian hacking, the GOP senate illegitimately eliminated the "nuclear option" to force a far right justice into the seat that rightfully belonged to Merrick Garland.

The next time the Democrats have power in the Presidency and the Senate (which will likely be in 2020, assuming Trump isn't impeached before then.), they should expand SCOTUS to 11 seats. They can nuke the legislative filibuster to achieve any changes in the law necessary to make this happen. Then they can appoint two progressive, rational, young justices to the court to even out the blatant cheating of the GOP in 2016/2017.

Conservatives may say: "oh, we'll just expand it to 15 justices when we take power again." But guess what? You will NEVER take power again after 2020. Trump is the last GOP president in history. The conservative base of old white men is dying out VERY quickly, and as the younger generations become more and more diverse, the voting power of the GOP will decline rapidly after 2020, ensuring that you never win another election. This fact is made even more so by the fact that if we expand SCOTUS to 11 members, we will fire up an entire base of young, motivated progressives who don't usually vote, doubling our voters in all future elections.

My fellow progressives may say: "we shouldn't sink down to their level." No, we sure as hell should. This is a full blown civil war now, and our side is on the right side of history. We CANNOT keep fighting with one hand tied behind out back. We need to be ruthless and merciless in dismantling the power of the GOP, so that our forward thinking, progressive vision of America will win out over their message of hate and darkness. Now is NOT the time to "play fair." This is the time to fight with everything we have, against an enemy that have proven themselves traitors to this country.

There is no reason for the Democratic party not to expand the court the next time they have the power to do so.
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That will never happen , the democrats are history ! :lol:
 
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