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Border Wall-No Wall-Infrastructure

Wall? Yes Or No

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phattonez said:
What did you learn from the Battle of Tours?
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The tactical benefit of maintaining a corps of well trained and disciplined infantry as the load bearing point of your army.

The Battle of Lepanto?
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The importance of a capable and well trained naval infantry force and the significance of ship-borne artillery.
 
Infrastructure. The wall will never be finished. Starting it is an enormous waste of money.
 
Rexedgar said:
What's the opinion? What do we need more?
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I think a wall would only temporarily prevent the easy access to border crossings, eventually the Coyotes would figure new ways and find gaps. It's a big waste of money and resources. The Great Wall of China is far larger and doesn't really protect China's borders. Doubles fences with razor wire, cameras, drone coverage and quick response teams are more effective and what prisons use.
 
grip said:
I think a wall would only temporarily prevent the easy access to border crossings, eventually the Coyotes would figure new ways and find gaps. It's a big waste of money and resources. The Great Wall of China is far larger and doesn't really protect China's borders. Doubles fences with razor wire, cameras, drone coverage and quick response teams are more effective and what prisons use.
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The Israeli war almost completely eliminated Palestinians troublemakers doing there thing! Here is the deal, though the politically correct
brigades would go beserk if implemented, 1) Build a strong wall 2) Dig a moat on the side of the wall where illegals enter insert alligators
in the moat 3) Sharpshooters on top of wall to ensure border protection! 4) Sensors to eliminate tunnels. I am sure that wall would
eliminate the possibility of intruders!
 
We can spend 20 billion to build a wall AND invest in infrastructure... hell, Obama bailed out those scum sucking criminal bankers with 800 billion and then they gave themselves all million dollar bonuses... :roll:
 
slick said:
The Israeli war almost completely eliminated Palestinians troublemakers doing there thing! Here is the deal, though the politically correct
brigades would go beserk if implemented, 1) Build a strong wall 2) Dig a moat on the side of the wall where illegals enter insert alligators
in the moat 3) Sharpshooters on top of wall to ensure border protection! 4) Sensors to eliminate tunnels. I am sure that wall would
eliminate the possibility of intruders!
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If you want to be nasty, all you really need is sharpshooters for awhile. Guarantee if we start dropping them at the border crossings, they'll stay the hell away. IMO, the situation ain't that desperate.
 
jamesrage said:
There is nothing made up about Obama trying to push amnesty, passing executive amnesty and suing states for enacting anti-illegal immigration laws.
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And there is nothing made up about Trump's ties to Russia.
 
jamesrage said:
Yes it is made up.Its why no actual evidence has been released.
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No evidence has been released because said evidence would be damaging to National Security. I dislike Trump, and if he really did perform a golden shower on some Russian Prostitutes or was involved in hacking, I would rather that evidence stay buried. It would be more damaging to us to find out Trump did collude with the Russians, than anything the Russians would have him do.

Plus, I doubt Trump would keep any promises made to Putin anyway. He's not know for being honest. This is one of those things we all suspect, but would rather not know for our own good.
 
Rexedgar said:
What's the opinion? What do we need more?
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Build the wall now.

Infrastructure is more expensive. We need to get our country's house in order first. That means dealing with government spending, illegal immigration, Obamacare, tax reform, banking reform and regulatory reduction. Once all that is done, it will free up all the money we'll need for infrastructure.

If we do infrastructure first we will only go deeper in debt.
 
jamesrage said:
Yes it is made up.Its why no actual evidence has been released.
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I think its much more likely that Trump was licking Putin's testicles than Obama ever licked the testicles of some random undocumented immigrant. I'd put money on it.
 
disneydude said:
I think its much more likely that Trump was licking Putin's testicles than Obama ever licked the testicles of some random undocumented immigrant. I'd put money on it.
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So in otherwords you have no proof of Trump's ties to Russia. The proof of Obama liking the testicles of illegals is him enacting executive amnesty, pushing for amnesty and had states sued for enacting anti-illegal immigration laws.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
No evidence has been released because said evidence would be damaging to National Security.
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Nothing more than code for we ain't got nothing.
 
jamesrage said:
So in otherwords you have no proof of Trump's ties to Russia. The proof of Obama liking the testicles of illegals is him enacting executive amnesty, pushing for amnesty and had states sued for enacting anti-illegal immigration laws.
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Why are you so obsessed with testicle licking? Yes, James...suffice it to say, if we've ever had a President that was into testicle licking...Trump is the guy.
 
jamesrage said:
Nothing more than code for we ain't got nothing.
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Think what you want, actual evidence of Russian tampering would be bad news for everyone. I prefer it stay hidden. Even if I find it completely feasible.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
Think what you want, actual evidence of Russian tampering would be bad news for everyone.
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No it wouldn't be bad news for everyone. It would be bad news for Trump and his supporters.It would be good new for those who claimed that there are Trump Russian ties. Because it would mean that they are not the democrat versions of Birther-tards if there was actual evidence of Trump Russian collusion. It would mean that their desire for Trump to be impeached would be justified.

I prefer it stay hidden.
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Of course you do so that you can keep claiming the same old lie that the proof is classified. They only reason they haven't released anything is because they don''t have anything or they don't have anything credible.
 
disneydude said:
Why are you so obsessed with testicle licking? Yes, James...suffice it to say, if we've ever had a President that was into testicle licking...Trump is the guy.
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Again there is no evidence of Trump Russian ties. So your claims are bogus,.
 
jamesrage said:
No it wouldn't be bad news for everyone. It would be bad news for Trump and his supporters.It would be good new for those who claimed that there are Trump Russian ties. Because it would mean that they are not the democrat versions of Birther-tards if there was actual evidence of Trump Russian collusion. It would mean that their desire for Trump to be impeached would be justified.



Of course you do so that you can keep claiming the same old lie that the proof is classified. They only reason they haven't released anything is because they don''t have anything or they don't have anything credible.
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Forget the partisan political bull**** for one second. If Russian interference in our election is actually proven, that could put us back into the cold war. Hell, it could be considered an act of war. Lines will be drawn. I don't give two ****s if the democrats score some points if it means a return to the cold war. In all honesty, Trump probably did make a deal with Putin, so the **** what. It'd be terrible if it were proven true. The NSA probably has tons of evidence, but has come to the same conclusion that revealing it is just not worth it.
 
We're about $4,500,000,000,000 behind on infrastructure repairs and updates, by most accounts.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
Forget the partisan political bull**** for one second. If Russian interference in our election is actually proven, that could put us back into the cold war. Hell, it could be considered an act of war. Lines will be drawn. I don't give two ****s if the democrats score some points if it means a return to the cold war. In all honesty, Trump probably did make a deal with Putin, so the **** what. It'd be terrible if it were proven true. The NSA probably has tons of evidence, but has come to the same conclusion that revealing it is just not worth it.
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Nothing more than hyperbole and a pathetic excuse for not wanting evidence(if any actual credible evidence actually exists) released. We would not go to war over election meddling,especially seeing how its something our country engages in. You just don't want it released because you know that either they have nothing or that they have nothing credible and so that you can use the bogus "it's classified" excuse. What is partisan bull**** is jumping on the Russians did it bandwagon.
 
disneydude said:
I guess we are even then. Carry on....
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We are not even. Obama did push for Amnesty. Obama did grant executive amnesty for those allegedly brought here as little kids. Obama did sue states that enacted anti-illegal immigration laws. Those thing are illegal alien testicle licker activities. There is however no evidence of Trump Russian collusion in our election.
 
jamesrage said:
Nothing more than hyperbole and a pathetic excuse for not wanting evidence(if any actual credible evidence actually exists) released. We would not go to war over election meddling,especially seeing how its something our country engages in. You just don't want it released because you know that either they have nothing or that they have nothing credible and so that you can use the bogus "it's classified" excuse. What is partisan bull**** is jumping on the Russians did it bandwagon.
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You may have me mistaken for someone else, I've never cared if the Russians did it. Most of my posts on the topic have ascribed the hacks to little more than pranks. But think what you want, not like I give two ****s about the opinions of closet white supremicists.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
You may have me mistaken for someone else, I've never cared if the Russians did it. Most of my posts on the topic have ascribed the hacks to little more than pranks. But think what you want, not like I give two ****s about the opinions of closet white supremicists.
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Closet white supremacists?? Now I know you are lying.Because only the left would resort to fraudulently call someone is a white supremacist.
 
jamesrage said:
Closet white supremacists?? Now I know you are lying.Because only the left would resort to fraudulently call someone is a white supremacist.
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Who says I was talking about you? guilty much?
 
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