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Lethal Injection or Firing Squd

What would you choose?

  • Firing Squad

    Votes: 21 80.8%
  • Lethal Injection

    Votes: 5 19.2%

  • Total voters
    26
I dont know if you believe in mass mental illness, as in societal mental illness, but this seemed to be a case of it. We did not want the noise and the knowledge of bullets tearing into flesh to end a life...that we did that.... and remember too that this was before America became so sadistic....someone came up with a plan to avoid that, and we said yes immediately, "and please dont make us think about this for even two minutes more".

Whether it was a good idea?

No one cared.

Executions used to be held in public. People used to bring picnic baskets and make a day of it. So maybe the public enjoyed executions too much and thats why they made it private with just a few witnesses.

Meh, I think there's always been a sadistic under current in America. Maybe thats true everywhere, I dunno...but I definitely think it's true here in America.
 
Executions used to be held in public. People used to bring picnic baskets and make a day of it. So maybe the public enjoyed executions too much and thats why they made it private with just a few witnesses.

Meh, I think there's always been a sadistic under current in America. Maybe thats true everywhere, I dunno...but I definitely think it's true here in America.

After all the trauma of the 60's, the Oil Embargo, Watergate.....our collective nerves were shot, we could not take firing squads.
 
There something odd here as over my lifespan I been in a room at my vet with a beloved pet a dozen or more time when it came time to end his or her life.

One time the vet even came to my home to take care of the deed and my cat was on my lap when he was given his shots.

At no time did any of them seem to suffer in any manner so why is this so must harder to do when it come to humans and why do we need special and hard to get drugs when drugs that can do the deed can be found in lock boxes at any vet?

The whole thing seem odds.
 
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. If we, as a society, cannot stomach the thought of physicians employing more foolproof — even if more primitive — methods of aiding their patients’ deaths, then perhaps we shouldn’t enter this arena either. Clear vision about voluntary death need not necessarily lead to firing squads for leukemia patients and guillotines for grannies, but it would prevent us from misunderstanding the process and its consequences. The upshot for both voluntary, physician-assisted death and for capital punishment is that death is difficult. Our sentimentality may lead us to romanticize it, but our social consciences should never allow us to sanitize it.
 
After all the trauma of the 60's, the Oil Embargo, Watergate.....our collective nerves were shot, we could not take firing squads.

I don't know about the rest of the country, but in Utah it might've had something to do with "blood atonement" which is part of LDS doctrine...and so for the government to draw blood was probably too close to religious doctrine...or something like that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_atonement
 
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I was just finishing a true crime book. The assailant is found guilty and condemned to die, and the judge gives him the option to die by either lethal injection or firing squad. He picked firing squad.

At that point, I thought I started wondering which option I would pick. I think I would rather get a firing squad than a lethal injection. A firing squad seems quicker and actually more humane. With a lethal injection, you will get a IV in the arm and wait to die while the drugs take effect.

Public opinion seems to be that a firing squad is less humane, but if you put yourself in the condemned person's shoes do you see it differently?

What are your thoughts?
I agree. The quick way.
 

As I already stated we seems to have odd outlook on deaths of humans when compared to our pets.

Resulting at times in treating our dogs and cats far better then our humans when it come to end of life issues.

We would never allow our pets to die slowly and in pain but we do allow and in fact demand that for humans.

Thank god for my 357 if I ever find myself in that position.
 
As I already stated we seems to have odd outlook on deaths of humans when compared to our pets.

Resulting at times in treating our dogs and cats far better then our humans when it come to end of life issues.

We would never allow our pets to die slowly and in pain but we do allow and in fact demand that for humans.

Thank god for my 357 if I ever find myself in that position.

I am supposing you might recall my argument that not only should suicide numbers be removed from those violent gun death numbers that the anti gun folks cook up trying to sell their agenda, but that proving guns for suicide is a God Damn public service.

Hi Bill

:2wave:





Note: Bill and I go back years at my former home, sometimes agreeing, sometimes not.
 
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As I already stated we seems to have odd outlook on deaths of humans when compared to our pets.

Resulting at times in treating our dogs and cats far better then our humans when it come to end of life issues.

We would never allow our pets to die slowly and in pain but we do allow and in fact demand that for humans.

Thank god for my 357 if I ever find myself in that position.
It's true...I've had to put a few pets down, too...and I've wondered the same thing myself. I even told my vet that when my time comes, I coming to see him. lol
 
I am supposing you might recall my argument that not only should suicide numbers be removed from those violent gun death numbers that the anti gun folks cook up trying to sell their agenda, but that proving guns for suicide is a God Damn public service.

Hi Bill

:2wave:





Note: Bill and I go back years at my former home, sometimes agreeing, sometimes not.

Hi back Hawkeye and no I do not remember you taking such a position on gun suicides but it is a position that I had no problem seeing you taking and I also agree with such a position.
 
Hi back Hawkeye and no I do not remember you taking such a position on gun suicides but it is a position that I had no problem seeing you taking and I also agree with such a position.

We sure had some good times didnt we......

It is so nice to see you.

I am of course the same as I ever was, only better.

I hope you are well.
 
Think there is a difference between mass gas chambers meant to look like showers, with a locked door. And someone sentenced to death for murder in a tiny little airtight coffin being pumped with exhaust after they take sleep pills.

They dont even have to know what day is sleepy pill day, if its a vitamin or a sleepy.

Hell they could even vacuum all the air out for 20 minutes after 5 minutes of exhaust.

If they refuse sleepy pill.... then they can have one of the "other" forms of execution.

The problem is that no engine manufacturer wants their product used as a death device...same with the sleeping pill manufacturer.

That is the problem Arkansas is having with the so-called lethal injection drugs, if a companies' product is used for it's non intended purpose, it places the company is legal liability that could ruin the company.

No company wants to pay millions in legal fees because Arkansas can not find a 'humane' way to execute their inmates.
 
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The problem is that no engine manufacturer wants their product used as a death device...same with the sleeping pill manufacturer.

That is the problem Arkansas is having with the so-called lethal injection drugs, if a companies' product is used for it's non intended purpose, it places the company is legal liability that could ruin the company.

No company wants to pay millions in legal fees because Arkansas can not find a 'humane' way to execute their inmates.

The whole matter is silly as for example large tanks of Nitrogen gas can be purchase on the open market and used to replaced the 22 percent of oxygen in a death chamber resulting is a peaceful death from lack of oxygen with the subject just losing consciousness.

https://www.quora.com/Can-inhaling-pure-nitrogen-kill-someone-instantlyIt definitely will kill you, but definitely not instantly.

Nitrogen is not toxic at all under normal circumstances. We breath 78% nitrogen all day long and it doesn't harm us at all. But breathing pure nitrogen means we're not breathing oxygen, which means that we'll die of oxygen deprivation in a matter of


But a pure nitrogen environment is particularly dangerous because it's odorless, tasteless and invisible. Moreover, if you're breathing nitrogen, you don't feel like you're suffocating. You get light-headed and pass out (apparently very quickly) but you never get that stuffy, choking feeling you get when you're holding your breath or choking. As a result, people will pass out without realizing that something is wrong, and it's extremely dangerous to go in after them without special equipment, because the same evironerment will do the same to you.
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I'd choose the firing squad out of spite. If they want to kill me they don't get to do it clean and bloodless.
 
The whole matter is silly as for example large tanks of Nitrogen gas can be purchase on the open market and used to replaced the 22 percent of oxygen in a death chamber resulting is a peaceful death from lack of oxygen with the subject just losing consciousness.

I've always thought this would be a simple and humane method of execution too. Just put the subject in an airtight room, and replace the oxygen with an inert gas.
 
Why did hanging fall out of favour in the United States? It remained popular in other countries especially the UK and the Commonwealth. It seems like a far more humane and reliable option than any of the methods the US has used in the last century and a bit.

There is also the easiest and most sensible solution and just abolish the death penalty.

Probably because if the rope length isn't right, you risk decapitating them or slowly choking them to death.
 
I've always thought this would be a simple and humane method of execution too. Just put the subject in an airtight room, and replace the oxygen with an inert gas.

LOL...

That's cruel. However, I would say some deserve it!
 
The whole matter is silly as for example large tanks of Nitrogen gas can be purchase on the open market and used to replaced the 22 percent of oxygen in a death chamber resulting is a peaceful death from lack of oxygen with the subject just losing consciousness.

You obviously do not know what it feels like not to have oxygen in the blood stream.
 
Most people think lethal injection should go as smoothly as doctor assisted suicide, but it doesn't.

The reason there is so much trouble with lethal injections is because it isn't done by doctors since it is against their oath. And the companies that produce the most effective pharmaceuticals for it won't allow them to be used for executions. If that wasn't the case then I would choose lethal injection. But it is, so I would choose firing squad. Though I would prefer a single bullet to the back of the head.
 
Gas chambers are still a thing but present their own issues. But as the Nazis had problems with, it is slow and unreliable.

Should be easy, though. Yeah, it might be a little slow but just slowly draw out the level of oxygen in the room until it's over. The person will passout and should be harmless. I mean, if people can stick a hose in their car window from their exhaust to do it themselves, I think we can actually design something pretty efficiently.
 
You obviously do not know what it feels like not to have oxygen in the blood stream.

Sorry but you just pass out without any warning before hand there is no feelings as in downing.

A whole NASA work crew once died in that manner when they enter an area that was O2 free by error.

I had always feel that their names belong on the same honor plate as the astronauts who had given their lives for the space program at Cape Kennedy.
 
Once more tanks of nitrogen seems both a dirt cheap way and a very humane way of killing someone.


1981: Five technicians are asphyxiated while setting up a ground test for the space shuttle Columbia, then in preparation for STS-1, the first operational shuttle mission. Two of them die.

The accident occurred during a nitrogen purge of the orbiter. John Bjornstad, 50, one of the five Rockwell International technicians who entered a rear section of the orbiter above the engine, died en route to the hospital. The second fatality, Forrest Cole, died two weeks later.

The nitrogen purge was a routine procedure that used nitrogen to flush all the oxygen out of the engine compartment prior to test-firing, when any errant spark could touch off a fire. No oxygen = no possible fire.

Following a successful simulated countdown, the technicians were cleared by NASA safety supervisors to enter the compartment. Believing the conditions inside Columbia to be safe, they entered not wearing air packs. Because nitrogen is both odorless and colorless, the five men lost consciousness before realizing anything was amiss.

A sixth technician discovered them and alerted a security guard, who donned an air pack and dragged the victims from the compartment. Rescue efforts were further complicated when the ambulance responding to the emergency call was stopped and searched for seven minutes by security guards near the launch-pad perimeter at the Kennedy Space Center.

The front gate was unaware that anything had gone wrong inside.

Following a three-month investigation, a NASA board of inquiry concluded that a last-minute change in testing procedures, coupled with a breakdown in communications at the space center, caused the accident.

The two deaths were the first fatalities for the U.S. space program since Jan. 27, 1967, when astronauts Virgil Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee were killed when fire swept through their capsule during ground testing for the first Apollo mission.

The accident did not delay the scheduled launch of Columbia on April 12.
 
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I was just finishing a true crime book. The assailant is found guilty and condemned to die, and the judge gives him the option to die by either lethal injection or firing squad. He picked firing squad.

At that point, I thought I started wondering which option I would pick. I think I would rather get a firing squad than a lethal injection. A firing squad seems quicker and actually more humane. With a lethal injection, you will get a IV in the arm and wait to die while the drugs take effect.

Public opinion seems to be that a firing squad is less humane, but if you put yourself in the condemned person's shoes do you see it differently?

What are your thoughts?

Hanging
 
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