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How Likely is a War with North Korea?

How likely is a war with North Korea?

  • Very Likely

    Votes: 7 10.1%

  • Somewhat Likely

    Votes: 14 20.3%

  • Somewhat Unlikely

    Votes: 20 29.0%

  • Very Unlikely

    Votes: 28 40.6%
  • Total voters
    69
Who knows? I just hope Trump has a steady supply of Viagra to "prop" up his manhood instead of grabbing for the football.
 
While I would love to be the one to plant the Star-Spangled Banner over Pyongyang, there's no feasible way to do so without risking open war with China.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
While I would love to be the one to plant the Star-Spangled Banner over Pyongyang, there's no feasible way to do so without risking open war with China.
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US troops holding ground in North Korea isn't what China is going to sit still for. The US doing that wouldn't be in the US' best interests either. A direct military conflict between China and the US, both will lose, and lose big.

What would be in the US' best interests is for North Korea's nuclear and ICBM programs have a major, and perhaps permanent, set back. This might be something that China would sit still for, especially if they were the ones that inflicted that setback, via any of the means available to them.
 
eohrnberger said:
US troops holding ground in North Korea isn't what China is going to sit still for. The US doing that wouldn't be in the US' best interests either. A direct military conflict between China and the US, both will lose, and lose big.

What would be in the US' best interests is for North Korea's nuclear and ICBM programs have a major, and perhaps permanent, set back. This might be something that China would sit still for, especially if they were the ones that inflicted that setback, via any of the means available to them.
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To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised to wake up one morning and learn China has deployed "advisers" numbering in the thousands to "support and stabilize" the DPRK. It would keep China's strategic concerns in check while solving the immediate issue of North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

And I don't think many in the West would complain too much.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised to wake up one morning and learn China has deployed "advisers" numbering in the thousands to "support and stabilize" the DPRK. It would keep China's strategic concerns in check while solving the immediate issue of North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

And I don't think many in the West would complain too much.
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Why would the West complain should nuclear weapons and ICBMs are taken out of the hands of what is clearly someone who doesn't think clearly?
No reason that I can think of.

I think it fair and reasonable for someone, anyone, to encourage China to do exactly that, such as what Trump has done with the coke coal deal with China, weakening the leverage that North Korean might have over China. Don't think the Chinese like it very much that someone who doesn't think clearly has any sort of leverage over them.
 
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Kim has a good thing going on. He is a god in his country and can do whatever he wants within his borders. Within the hour of starting a war with us that would end. There is no upside for him to do that.
 
Roycarn said:
How likely is war to break out between the US and North Korea? Personally, I'd say fairly or somewhat likely given the current situation.
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I don't know, but we're at a point where the Chinese are the voices of temperance. In other words, we're in something of a bad way right now.
 
Gonzo Rodeo said:
People who think there is a serious problem right now forget that this happens every April.
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Except there wasn't a hotheaded idiot in charge. Of the United States.
 
eohrnberger said:
A single strike? Yes. Perhaps delivered from China, perhaps delivered from the US. A war? No, I don't see that. North Korea is so out matched I don't think that it'd be called, or be, a war.
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For tens of millions of people living in Seoul it would be of little consequence what the action was called, dead is dead.
 
digsbe said:
I think Trump may be less reluctant to use military power compared to Obama, but I don't think he'd go to war without the consult of our top generals.

When it comes to NK and China I think the problem lies with the cult-of-personality of the Kim family. With Juche ideology they are literally seen as divine and godlike. It's questionable how much power the Chinese have over the Kim family, if they wanted to intervene they'd likely need to oust the Kim family from power (which would greatly destabilize the country) and ensure a China-first communist gets in power who basically leads via Chinese interests as a puppet government.
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Sounds reasonable. Perhaps the Chinese and the world as a whole would be better served by a puppet government minus the Kim's. But who really knows?
 
Risky Thicket said:
For tens of millions of people living in Seoul it would be of little consequence what the action was called, dead is dead.
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I know Koreans here. They're sick with worry for their families back in South Korea, knowing that only complete lunatics are in charge of both countries.
 
jimbo said:
Powder keg I doubt. More like a bottle rocket.

Any war brought on by Un would last about 15 minutes.
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Bottle rockets my ass. You obviously don't have anyone you know in the U.S. military facing NK on the DMZ. If you did you wouldn't make such a stupid and callous statement.

And only a fool underestimates their enemy. You sir are a fool.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Bottle rockets my ass. You obviously don't have anyone you know in the U.S. military facing NK on the DMZ. If you did you wouldn't make such a stupid and callous statement.

And only a fool underestimates their enemy. You sir are a fool.
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Which formidable weapon does he have that could cause the US a serious problem?
 
Jredbaron96 said:
While I would love to be the one to plant the Star-Spangled Banner over Pyongyang, there's no feasible way to do so without risking open war with China.
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I'm more concerned with the immediate carnage on the ground until NK is silenced. Lots of American troops and civilians in SK will be slaughtered along with the NK folks on the other side. Nothing's been done before because there is no good solution.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Kim has a good thing going on. He is a god in his country and can do whatever he wants within his borders. Within the hour of starting a war with us that would end. There is no upside for him to do that.
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You seem to think he's rational. You may be wrong.
 
Risky Thicket said:
For tens of millions of people living in Seoul it would be of little consequence what the action was called, dead is dead.
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And don't forget the thousand of American troops that are on the DMZ.
 
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jimbo said:
Which formidable weapon does he have that could cause the US a serious problem?
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I can't believe you have to ask that. You really need to do some reading on the subject so you don't look so ignorant. Lots of good information on the Internet at the right sources.

If you are solider on the ground you can't imagine the terror of mortars, missiles, and heavy artillery fire raining down on you. My parents of have experienced both and tell me there is nothing like it.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
I can't believe you have to ask that. You really need to do some reading on the subject so you don't look so ignorant. Lots of good information on the Internet at the right sources.
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Do you have an answer?
 
jimbo said:
Do you have an answer?
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Why play the obtuse card with NK's conventional weapons near Seoul?

Are you really that comfortable with the tweeting chickenhawk provoking NK ?
 
Phys251 said:
Except there wasn't a hotheaded idiot in charge. Of the United States.
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And the eight years under Bush? Guess who was still making noise then, like clockwork.
 
jimbo said:
Do you have an answer?
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Go troll someone else.

I'll bet you'd sing different tune if you were on the DMZ in the U.S. Army.

Maybe you're of the age you can enlist? Or I'll bet you wouldn't dream of serving. Just want to make stupid statements anonymously on this forum.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Go troll someone else.

I'll bet you'd sing different tune if you were on the DMZ in the U.S. Army.

Maybe you're of the age you can enlist? Or I'll bet you wouldn't dream of serving. Just want to make stupid statements anonymously on this forum.
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I didn't think so.

Served. Thank you. Weapons Tech analyst.
 
jimbo said:
Powder keg I doubt. More like a bottle rocket.

Any war brought on by Un would last about 15 minutes.
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It would drag on for years, with plane-loads of coffins coming home. For one thing, the US can't use nukes. For another, forget about over-running the country blitzkrieg-style.
 
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