Would reactions be different under another GOP president?

X Factor said:

Would the hype, both positive and negative be any different or would we being pretty much what we're seeing now?

I know that's vague and broad. My question is something to the effect of would people generally, regardless of which side of the aisle they're on, be reacting any differently than they are now if a different Repub candidate had won? Would the press, both left and right leaning, treat him/her differently? Would the opposition be calmer and/or more cooperative or would we, for the most part, be seeing substantially the same things we are now?

My belief is that, personal as the criticism often gets with Trump (and yes, he makes it super easy sometimes) any of the other candidates would encounter pretty much exactly the same, both in support and in hostility.

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I believe it would. Some of this is Trump's own fault because he doesn't seem to be able to control his mouth. If he had a more likable personality, I think it would be different. It seems most people are not so much against policy as much as against the way he presents it.

It would depend on the candidate. Someone on the extreme end of the right wing party would probably get somewhat similar treatment, though not as bad simply because Trump has no impulse control and paints a target on his back on nearly a daily basis. More moderate conservatives would not get treated the same way. However, the partisans of either side will treat the other side winning as if the world has ended, regardless of who that person is.

Puigb said:

Considering the way the right attacked the Obama's, who are in reality just good all around family folks, I'm not so sure you should be pointing any fingers. Your ilk made Obama out to be a socialist, anti white racist muslim who wasn't even BORN in the united states, and you wan't to complain about attacks on GOP candidates? Pleaseeeee!

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Sorry, I could not find any actual disagreement with, let alone refutation of, what I said here.

Moderate Right said:

People all over the world are throwing the establishment out. This is why Trump won. Voters didn't want a polished establishment president and the voters that wanted establishment to win simply can't understand this and still don't.

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With a 30% approval rating I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

Thankfully we have enough separation of powers that the bumbling baby can't do "too" much damage without trying really hard to do it.
People are just too stupid to understand that historically, having someone like Trump WAS the establishment norm. 100% lies based on nationalistic rhetoric, attacking anyone/everyone. It won't last because it's buffoonery. If they can't tell the truth about anything, in what world will that make real progress in ANY capacity at all (be it conservative or liberal or moderate or anything in between)?

Mach said:

With a 30% approval rating I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

Thankfully we have enough separation of powers that the bumbling baby can't do "too" much damage without trying really hard to do it.
People are just too stupid to understand that historically, having someone like Trump WAS the establishment norm. 100% lies based on nationalistic rhetoric, attacking anyone/everyone. It won't last because it's buffoonery. If they can't tell the truth about anything, in what world will that make real progress in ANY capacity at all (be it conservative or liberal or moderate or anything in between)?

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Not sure if any approval rating numbers were out there before the election and how Hillary fared with those as well but, I must remind you that today's approval numbers don't have a darn thing to do with the voters electing him.

Moderate Right said:

Not sure if any approval rating numbers were out there before the election and how Hillary fared with those as well but, I must remind you that today's approval numbers don't have a darn thing to do with the voters electing him.

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No, it's obvious that many people quickly had buyer's remorse after seeing him basically treat the presidency like an entertainment show. I know a number of people who say they liked his campaign, but they honestly thought he'd change if elected (and by change I mean be more presidential, reasonable, actually do things well, etc.)
The tweets, the HUuuugge language, the inability to settle in to the white house, the twice failed muslim ban, Flynn, Russia, Bannon, and his consistent lying, these turned off a lot of people fast.

Although for those Trump supporters who will reveal they voted for him in public, that are part of this dwindling 35%, what is this secret you think they voted him into office for that he can actually do, or wants to do? Make America great/ Surely there is more to it than that. (By surely I mean unfortunately I suspect not).

X Factor said:

Would the hype, both positive and negative be any different or would we being pretty much what we're seeing now?

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That depends a great deal on who was elected.

Bush, Rubio, Christie, Graham, Pataki, Kasich would face far less criticism. At a minimum, they would have avoided the problems caused by inexperience, rampant incompetence, conflicts of interest, nepotism (well, except Bush), sheer idiocracy with foreign affairs, and toxic pathological lies.

The rest probably would have fallen prey to some issues relating to inexperience, and some incompetence.

Carson would make similar mistakes (if not worse... somehow) and would be pilloried.

I think they'd face a lot of opposition. However, let's get real. Trump is bringing down a great deal of vitriol on his own head. Kasich would never have hired Sean Spicer to lie for him 6 times a minute, or classified the press as the "enemy of America."

That said, any Republican President would have faced some similar issues:
• Republican Congress that doesn't know how to legislate
• Freedom Caucus holding the House hostage, and refusing to negotiate / Hastert Rule disasters
• The disaster of repealing a suddenly-popular ACA
• A deteriorating legislature in general

I think there would be certain areas of less "complaining". The whole Russia thing probably wouldn't be happening. But if a conservative Republican was President, Liberals would probably be crying that they were about to kill all gay people like they have in the past.