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Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presidency?

Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presidency?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 53.8%

  • No

    Votes: 19 36.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 5 9.6%
  • Total voters
    52
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Perotista said:
I think any president should be able to nominate the SCOTUS justice he pleases and that nominee deserves a vote in the senate. I think McConnell not bringing Garland's nomination up for a vote was about as wrong as wrong could be. The same thing goes for Chuck Schumer when he stated the senate would take up any of Bush's nominees if a SCOTUS position became open in his last year.

The thing is with 54 senators, the Republicans could have voted Garland down if they had a mind too. Garland deserved a vote. The same holds true in my opinion with Trump if a vacancy occurs in his last year. The problem is partisan politics, polarization in Washington has replaced good governance and those in Washington are only looking out for the good of their political party and not the good of the nation. Today, it is political party over country.
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Agreed. The quoted "Biden Rule" was abused and never actually applied. Garland should have got his up or down vote. And now, so should Gorsuch. I have a few problems with him, but he is replacing Scallia so it seems as close as we could get to a wash. And there is some reason to believe he may be a thorn in conservative sides much as Roberts has been on some rulings.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Verax said:
Yes, no, other?
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Sure. Assuming there is a vacancy at the time, the President can nominate anyone to the Supreme Court he pleases. Doesn't mean his nominee with get a hearing or a vote on the Senate floor, but he can make the nomination as he pleases. However, based on the current ideological state of Congress (or in this case, the Senate), I wouldn't recommend it.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Moon said:
No idea what you're talking about. Are you claiming that Obama wasn't allowed to nominate someone for the supreme court?
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Merrick Garland

Obama nominated him.

There were no hearings.
No votes...

Nothing.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Unitedwestand13 said:
Merrick Garland

Obama nominated him.

There were no hearings.
No votes...

Nothing.
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Yes, and?

The OP refers to nominating, not getting that nominee through the process.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Verax said:
Yes, no, other?
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Of course he should. It's his job, after all.

Whether Congress should confirm his appointment is another issue...not related to your poll.
 
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Looks like most people think Gorsuch should be allowed to get through, I disagree. Tit-for-tat.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Cardinal said:
There's currently an FBI investigation underway. When it has been concluded and Trump has been given a clean legal bill of health in that matter, I can feel better about him making lifetime appointments.
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I suppose you want Trump to just go on vacation...to not do anything involving his job as President...because there is an investigation underway, right? I don't blame you if that's how you feel. Heck, I'm sure there are a lot of liberals and Trump haters who feel the same way and who won't hesitate to drum up fake issue after fake issue so Trump is, by your suggestion, on vacation for four years.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Mycroft said:
I suppose you want Trump to just go on vacation...to not do anything involving his job as President...because there is an investigation underway, right? I don't blame you if that's how you feel. Heck, I'm sure there are a lot of liberals and Trump haters who feel the same way and who won't hesitate to drum up fake issue after fake issue so Trump is, by your suggestion, on vacation for four years.
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If a President Hillary Clinton had been under FBI investigation for possible collusion with a hostile foreign government that meddled in our elections, how would you have felt about her making lifetime appointments?
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Moon said:
Kind of a stupid question. Of course he should be "allowed" to, says so right in the Constitution.

And in response to some earlier posters - Obama was allowed to, too.
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Moon said:
No idea what you're talking about. Are you claiming that Obama wasn't allowed to nominate someone for the supreme court?
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Excon said:
If there is a vacancy the President can appoint all they want.
But that matters not as it is a process of two parties.

It is up to the Senate as to whether they consent and up to them as to when or if they do that.
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Moon said:
Yes, and?

The OP refers to nominating, not getting that nominee through the process.
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Mycroft said:
Of course he should. It's his job, after all.

Whether Congress should confirm his appointment is another issue...not related to your poll.
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Unfortunately I worded it poorly and the technical saboteurs seized on an opportunity. Obviously I mean "allowed to confirm" a SC justice, it also implies "in a reasonable manner or timeframe". It may also mean "to allow a normal procedure in which the president nominates a reasonable nominee and is eventually confirmed like all the others before were".

I think I need to lawyer up before I post another poll.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Mycroft said:
I suppose you want Trump to just go on vacation...to not do anything involving his job as President...because there is an investigation underway, right? I don't blame you if that's how you feel. Heck, I'm sure there are a lot of liberals and Trump haters who feel the same way and who won't hesitate to drum up fake issue after fake issue so Trump is, by your suggestion, on vacation for four years.
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"Trump Hater" may not always be an accurate description. Some of us are merely "Holy crap, this idiot, immature, narcissist is our president" kind of folks. And we have every right to make our voices heard. Don't we? No, you don't get to answer, we do.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Cardinal said:
If a President Hillary Clinton had been under FBI investigation for possible collusion with a hostile foreign government that meddled in our elections, how would you have felt about her making lifetime appointments?
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I'd be fine with her making the appointments. Confirming them is another issue.

Your hypothetical...besides being unrealistic...is a fail.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Verax said:
Unfortunately I worded it poorly and the technical saboteurs seized on an opportunity. Obviously I mean "allowed to confirm" a SC justice, it also implies "in a reasonable manner or timeframe". It may also mean "to allow a normal procedure in which the president nominates a reasonable nominee and is eventually confirmed like all the others before were".

I think I need to lawyer up before I post another poll.
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Precision is one step below godliness.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

trblmkr said:
"Trump Hater" may not always be an accurate description. Some of us are merely "Holy crap, this idiot, immature, narcissist is our president" kind of folks. And we have every right to make our voices heard. Don't we? No, you don't get to answer, we do.
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shrug...

You don't have to apologize to me for being a Trump hater. You don't have to be defensive about it, either. Own your position, eh?

But if it makes you feel better, I'll try to remember not to use that term when speaking to you...but no promises, okay? I'm old. I might forget. Would you prefer, "Trump disliker"?
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Mycroft said:
I'd be fine with her making the appointments. Confirming them is another issue.

Your hypothetical...besides being unrealistic...is a fail.
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Confirming them is obviously the point. So under the scenario that a President Hillary Clinton is under FBI investigation for possible collusion with a hostile foreign government that meddled in our elections, you would not feel comfortable with her successfully putting someone on the Supreme Court?
 
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Cardinal said:
Confirming them is obviously the point. So under the scenario that a President Hillary Clinton is under FBI investigation for possible collusion with a hostile foreign government that meddled in our elections, you would not feel comfortable with her successfully putting someone on the Supreme Court?
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Not obviously the point. You spoke of reluctance to allowing Trump to make appointments.

Make up your mind, eh?

In any case, I'll let the politicians decide...hopefully based on their constituent's wishes and not based on political maneuvering.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Moon said:
Yes, and?

The OP refers to nominating, not getting that nominee through the process.
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Kind of like a Student Body President's influence on running a campus.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Mycroft said:
Not obviously the point. You spoke of reluctance to allowing Trump to make appointments.

Make up your mind, eh?
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Successful nominations is obviously the point. And now we reach that point in our interaction in which you start acting squirrelly as hell, which itself tells me all I need to know about your position.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Mycroft said:
Precision is one step below godliness.
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That's not how I would describe it but to each his own.

Now let's get back to discussing whether Gorsuch should be allowed to be confirmed.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Cardinal said:
Successful nominations is obviously the point. And now we reach that point in our interaction in which you start acting squirrelly as hell, which itself tells me all I need to know about your position.
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I haven't been "squirrelly". Even with your imprecision, I've answered your question.

Not my fault you don't like the answer.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Verax said:
That's not how I would describe it but to each his own.

Now let's get back to discussing whether Gorsuch should be allowed to be confirmed.
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Who's going to stop him from being "allowed" to be confirmed? What...you want a law forbidding his confirmation?

Look...whether some future nomination is confirmed or not depends solely on the makeup of the Senate at the time. If the Democrats have control, Trump's nominee will suffer the same fate as Obama's. If the Republicans have control, they'll confirm the nominee.

But if you DO want that law...all I can say is don't waste your time. Neither Party would pass such a thing.
 
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Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

he can always seek to have a judge appointed, but its up to the senate.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Fiddytree said:
Kind of like a Student Body President's influence on running a campus.
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Okay, go with that.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Master PO said:
he can always seek to have a judge appointed, but its up to the senate.
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Apparently the OP meant something completely different than what he actually wrote.
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Depends on who is in control of the senate at the time, doesnt it?
 
Re: Should Trump be allowed to appoint a SC Justice in the final year of his presiden

Verax said:
Looks like most people think Gorsuch should be allowed to get through, I disagree. Tit-for-tat.
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Did you agree with Biden when he said Bush should not make a lame duck appointment? How about Schumer?
 
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