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The Russian Scandal- What would make you care about it?

The Russian Scandal- What would make you care about it?

  • Trump having financial ties to Russia in his tax returns

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Trump getting paid directly by Russia to run in the election

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Michael Flynn's Testimony

    Votes: 1 10.0%

  • Nothing at all, even if conspiracy is proven to be true.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 9 90.0%
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Simply stated for those who think it is no big deal, what will be the final straw?
 
How about actual proof of Russian Trump collusion? that would make me care. Not hearsay,bogus claims of Obama having stashed some evidence by loony libs on MSNBC, and claims of its classified so we can't show you our proof malarkey by a bunch sore loser liberals and brain damaged war mongering RINOs like John McCain and Lindsey Graham-nasty who are upset Clinton didn't win.
 
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ModerateGOP said:
Simply stated for those who think it is no big deal, what will be the final straw?
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"Other", though it would be something to think about, if Putin had paid Trump to run. That would be interesting.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Simply stated for those who think it is no big deal, what will be the final straw?
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When they begin prosecution of the politicians that initiated the Trump Dossier by Steele. That's the only criminality that I have been able to see. No agency seems to be doing anything about it. As far as investments go, if you're a billionaire, you probably have some investments in Russia, 11 time zones wide with huge natural resources. That'a a magnet for big money. I think they should prosecute right after they prosecute the Big Banks that caused the 2008 meltdown.
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What would make me care about this issue?

Only clear and uncontrovertible evidence that Trump and Putin planned and executed a plot to take over the government via election shenanigans.

No innuendo, no guilt by association, no "if there is smoke there must be fire" mudslinging.

Absent such clear and uncontrovertible evidence I will not change my mind.

Meanwhile, I remain willing to discuss the relative merits of each of his acts and policy efforts while he holds office on a case by case basis.

But the man was constitutionally elected, and unless he commits high crimes and misdemeanors leading to valid act of impeachment I will accept and support his right to serve out his term as President of the United States.
 
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Certainly clear evidence of actual wrong doing presented by people that have the integrity to be equally committed to investigating Podesta's Russian ties and Clintons foreign misdealings.
 
Proof.
 
jamesrage said:
How about actual proof of Russian Trump collusion? that would make me care. Not hearsay,bogus claims of Obama having stashed some evidence by loony libs on MSNBC, and claims of its classified so we can't show you our proof malarkey by a bunch sore loser liberals and brain damaged war mongering RINOs like John McCain and Lindsey Graham-nasty who are upset Clinton didn't win.
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I was going to say something like that.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Simply stated for those who think it is no big deal, what will be the final straw?
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Pretty much what Captain Adverse said. But going to clarify a bit.

Having financial ties in Russia does not equal collaboration with Putin or the Russian government to affect our election. A corporation like Trumps has a good possibility of having some type of financial interest in Russia. Land is big business whether you are in the US, China, Russia, or Planet XYZ. And that is just part of the business that Trump does. So the fact that he gets money from Russia is really no big surprise. Now if it can be proven that Putin or the Russian government paid Trump or Trump paid Russia/Putin to affect the election you would more than likely have something. Note: That payment can be in the form of Presidential favors.
 
Clear evidence that Trump and the Russians combined to cause election fraud and/or hacking that resulted in Trump winning, whereas without that intervention, he would not have. Other than that, the issue does not interest me. Trump, or any President, can be friends or have business dealings with whomever they want. Some declare it, some don't, but it happens.
 
There is no there there. Zero evidence showing Trump or his campaign colluded with Russians. In fact not even a smidgen of corruption.
 
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