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Will Trump and the GOP Have any Success With the Rest of Their Agenda?

Will the GOP be Able to Pass any Legislation at All?

  • Absolutely - the ACA Failure was a One Time Thing.

    Votes: 3 37.5%

  • Nope, They Will Get Absolutely Nothing Done!

    Votes: 5 62.5%
  • Total voters
    8
  • Poll closed .
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The new GOP are great at vilifying Democrats and opposing legislation. When it comes time to govern, however they've proven that at in least one case they have no ability to actually govern.

After the repeal and replace ACA failure will the GOP and Trump have any success with the rest of their agenda or will the GOP infighting continue with absolutely nothing getting done?

P.S., I'm not voting on this one. I've proven I can't predict anything correctly lately! I thought Ryan/Trumpcare would pass the house!
 
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It's more a mix of the two. There will be some things that get through, but not everything. It's not a one time thing, but it won't be every time.
 
Hopefully not.

If anything gets through, I hope it's for infrastructure.
 
rocket88 said:
It's more a mix of the two. There will be some things that get through, but not everything. It's not a one time thing, but it won't be every time.
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Darn, I should have included a 3rd option!
 
Somewhere in the middle.
 
Anything destructive, yes.
Anything that builds something great, no.

Reduce taxes, yes. Who will oppose that in this congress?
Build a wall? No.
Military spending? Yes. Why not spend on bombs instead of healthcare which is evil, it makes sense to be big government on defense spending.
Reduced government regulations on big energy and possibly other things? Yes.
 
Will Trump and the GOP Have any Success With the Rest of Their Agenda?
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the disagreement was mostly only about the "replace" part of "repeal and replace." they'll be in agreement where trickle down is concerned.
 
lurchadams said:
- Tax Reform
- Infrastructure
- The Great Wall II (paid for by Mexico)
etc...

The new GOP are great at vilifying Democrats and opposing legislation. When it comes time to govern, however they've proven that at in least one case they have no ability to actually govern.

After the repeal and replace ACA failure will the GOP and Trump have any success with the rest of their agenda or will the GOP infighting continue with absolutely nothing getting done?

P.S., I'm not voting on this one. I've proven I can't predict anything correctly lately! I thought Ryan/Trumpcare would pass the house!
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You need more options. The aca thing is not dead, just thrown on the backburner to focus on other legislation, which makes sense why waste a long time pushing a bill everyone is fighting over and no one bothered to plan until very recently.

Trump will get legislation passed, the question though is how much and when. It seems that trump has heavy opposition in any direction he looks, and the koch brothers waiving campaign funds in front of the republicans faces.

I think most of his legislation will be blocked by both sides, and the only legislation he will get through is must have legislation neither side can ignore passing, less they piss off their own voter base.
 
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lurchadams said:
I've proven I can't predict anything correctly lately! I thought Ryan/Trumpcare would pass the house!
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I'm out of the prediction business. If I tell you the sun will rise tomorrow, be sure to grab a flashlight before you head out the door. These days, if I predict something it's specifically because I want the opposite of what I say will happen. That way whatever happens I'll be happy with either outcome. I'll either be right or I'll get what I want.

Example:

Me: "Nuclear war will happen tomorrow."
[nuclear armageddon starts the next day at noon]
Me "Woot! My prediction skills are awesome!"

See? Whatever ends up happening, I win.
 
There is a lot of low hanging fruit Trump and the R's can we working on and a lot of that has some democrat support. The R's will just let Obamacare cycle down on it's own, and hopefully fix here and there to try to improve it.

They can make the essential services not the same for both sexes,
They can make competition across state lines,
And they can do tort reform.

All of these things bend the cost curve down.

Competition across state lines can morph into individual plans for individual choices.
Essential services can halt the capitation payments for women's services for men, which goes into the hospital piggy bank.
Tort reform is what it is, and will lower the cost of defensive medicine.
 
beerftw said:
You need more options. The aca thing is not dead, just thrown on the backburner to focus on other legislation, which makes sense why waste a long time pushing a bill everyone is fighting over and no one bothered to plan until very recently.

Trump will get legislation passed, the question though is how much and when. It seems that trump has heavy opposition in any direction he looks, and the koch brothers waiving campaign funds in front of the republicans faces.

I think most of his legislation will be blocked by both sides, and the only legislation he will get through is must have legislation neither side can ignore passing, less they piss off their own voter base.
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The problem with your both sides is that they happen to be in the same party, your GOP.

Tell me, when were the DEMs contacted to help git er done?

Why do GOPs insist on their 'Hastert rule' which empowers a minority of the majority?

Didn't GOPs tell their voters they were planning to Replace for over 6 years ?
 
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The problem with your both sides is that they happen to be in the same party, your GOP.

Tell me, when were the DEMs contacted to help git er done?

Why do GOPs insist on their 'Hastert rule' which empowers a minority of the majority?

Didn't GOPs tell their voters they were planning to Replace for over 6 years ?
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The democrat party was already hostile to trump, and now even the gop hence both sides.

Truthfully trump might start leaning on the democrats more often, they tend to vote more lockstep, and if he can get the democrat party plus some republicans on board, he can pass legislation. How it currently is now, the republicans are divided among themselves, even if they backed trump, they will not back eachother on how to support him.
 
When will trump condemn the latest crackdowns in Russia?

Foreign policy is obviously very foreign to trump when it comes to Putin and Medvedev .
 
beerftw said:
The democrat party was already hostile to trump, and now even the gop hence both sides.

Truthfully trump might start leaning on the democrats more often, they tend to vote more lockstep, and if he can get the democrat party plus some republicans on board, he can pass legislation. How it currently is now, the republicans are divided among themselves, even if they backed trump, they will not back eachother on how to support him.
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GOPosters keep forgetting the 'Hastert Rule'.

You can expect no quarter from DEMs based on the behavior of trump, McConnell and Ryan this century.

This is 2009----2.0 .
 
NIMBY said:
GOPosters keep forgetting the 'Hastert Rule'.

You can expect no quarter from DEMs based on the behavior of trump, McConnell and Ryan this century.

This is 2009----2.0 .
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I think they said the same crap with reagan, but he ended up with the title the great comunicator for getting a democratic party almost as hostile as they are now to work with him. The democrats do work with the opposing party, so long as it benefits them in some way, trump just needs to give as well as take, rather than just take and hope the democrats back it.

The republicans like said before are highly divided, you have neocon war hawks, the establishment republicans, the libertarian republicans, liberal republicans, and tea party republicans, all want their own slice of the pie and none of them want to agree with eachother.
 
beerftw said:
I think they said the same crap with reagan, but he ended up with the title the great comunicator for getting a democratic party almost as hostile as they are now to work with him. The democrats do work with the opposing party, so long as it benefits them in some way, trump just needs to give as well as take, rather than just take and hope the democrats back it.

The republicans like said before are highly divided, you have neocon war hawks, the establishment republicans, the libertarian republicans, liberal republicans, and tea party republicans, all want their own slice of the pie and none of them want to agree with eachother.
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Im sorry to say this, but after the GOP behavior the last 8 years that gave them the unprecedented electoral power they have, I see zero reasons at this point for the DEMs to get out of the GOPs way over the south rim of the Grand Canyon. All I care about is the 2018 elections, at this point .
 
NIMBY said:
Im sorry to say this, but after the GOP behavior the last 8 years that gave them the unprecedented electoral power they have, I see zero reasons at this point for the DEMs to get out of the GOPs way over the south rim of the Grand Canyon. All I care about is the 2018 elections, at this point .
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Why would they not, it is caled mutual benefit, if the republicans can wave something the democrats want, something that wins the heart of their base, why would they not comprimise? The last 8 years have been neither side comprimising, but this is the exception not the rule, every other admin had opposition, and they managed to work deals, reagan did it, bush sr and jr did it, clinton did it, carter did it, the only admin who did not was obamas, he seemed as opposed to republicans as they were to him.


I hope we return to the system where both sides can work together to get things passes, rather than stomping their feet and demanding they get 100% of what they want or everyone gets nothing.
 
Anything? Yes.

All of it? No chance.
 
lurchadams said:
- Tax Reform
- Infrastructure
- The Great Wall II (paid for by Mexico)
etc...

The new GOP are great at vilifying Democrats and opposing legislation. When it comes time to govern, however they've proven that at in least one case they have no ability to actually govern.

After the repeal and replace ACA failure will the GOP and Trump have any success with the rest of their agenda or will the GOP infighting continue with absolutely nothing getting done?

P.S., I'm not voting on this one. I've proven I can't predict anything correctly lately! I thought Ryan/Trumpcare would pass the house!
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Who knows.Its not even a hundred days into Trump's presidency and Trump still has 95% of his 1st term left to accomplish things. Maybe when there is less than a year left in his 1st term it would be a better time to ask that poll question.
 
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