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Is healthcare a right or a privilege?

Is healthcare a right?

  • Yes

    Votes: 36 60.0%
  • No

    Votes: 24 40.0%

  • Total voters
    60
Is healthcare a right or a privilege.

I would assume if you believe healthcare is a right, than everyone should have access to healthcare, and for many, free healthcare. If healthcare is free, than who would be the ones paying for it?

The very same Americans that pay for ALL the democratic free bees the WORKING TAXPAYERS .
 
You have a right to the best healthcare you can purchase.
 
A pure flat tax wouldn't cure that completely, but it would go a long way.

Will never happen, though.

Of course not. So you will get 50% of the people not paying any federal income taxes and the other 50% paying extra. How is this fair again?
 
Of course not. So you will get 50% of the people not paying any federal income taxes and the other 50% paying extra. How is this fair again?

Actually ~ 50% of the population isn't working now. 30% of them are on entitlements they are supposed to be on - SS, SSDI, retirement, etc.

The rest are on one "temporary" entitlemnt or another.

The solution is to all of our problems is to get people working.
 
Actually ~ 50% of the population isn't working now. 30% of them are on entitlements they are supposed to be on - SS, SSDI, retirement, etc.

The rest are on one "temporary" entitlemnt or another.

The solution is to all of our problems is to get people working.

What is your plan to produce the jobs?
 
Actually ~ 50% of the population isn't working now. 30% of them are on entitlements they are supposed to be on - SS, SSDI, retirement, etc.

The rest are on one "temporary" entitlemnt or another.

The solution is to all of our problems is to get people working.

How do you come by that fact, as the labor participation rate is 63%.
 
Why wouldn't they be entitled to health care?

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Because it costs someone their time or property to deal with it. Where is the compensation for those resources?
 
Actually ~ 50% of the population isn't working now. 30% of them are on entitlements they are supposed to be on - SS, SSDI, retirement, etc.

The rest are on one "temporary" entitlemnt or another.

The solution is to all of our problems is to get people working.

I agree with you, although let's be honest, a lot of the people who are "not working" are either too old or too young to do so and therefore are not part of the potential workforce. But we still have the problem that there are more people taking out of the system than are putting into it, even if we just count those who ought to be working.
 
Isn't this where you say, "Life isn't fair."?

Life isn't fair, but stealing from one person to pay for another is criminal. Besides, if life isn't fair, then why don't people who can't afford health care just do without? Life isn't fair, right?
 
Life isn't fair, but stealing from one person to pay for another is criminal. Besides, if life isn't fair, then why don't people who can't afford health care just do without? Life isn't fair, right?

But it's supposed to be not fair for you, not me. ;)
 
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Technically in the USA it is not a right but it should be... It IS a universal human right recognized by the UN though.
 
But it's supposed to not fair for you, not me. ;)

Yeah, doesn't work that way. Again, that quote from Franklin works here. "When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic."
 
Why not? Life's not fair.

We might as well flush the whole damn country down the toilet. Actually, we're already doing that, aren't we?
 
Sure seems so, sometimes.

Unfortunately, nobody wants to recognize the problems and slam on the brakes. So long as they're getting free stuff from the government, they don't care if America burns.
 
Is healthcare a right or a privilege.

I would assume if you believe healthcare is a right, than everyone should have access to healthcare, and for many, free healthcare. If healthcare is free, than who would be the ones paying for it?

Health care can not be free. Like food, clean water, clean air, education, clothes, and everything else we need, it has to be paid for.

Some things are best paid for individually: clothes, food, housing.

Some things are best paid for collectively: education, health care, infrastructure, clean air and water.

All of the above are necessary. None of them are free. How could they be?
 
Is healthcare a right or a privilege.

Semantics, but it would depends on where and who you are.
Since it is not inherent, it can never be a Human Right. It can however be a legal right, convention right, or a right provided per agreement.
 
Well, the DoD is responsible for a lot of the absurdities you referenced.
True; but only because of the involvement by Congress to funnel as much money as possible back to their individual states!

Politicians are regularly responsible for inflating the Military budget above and beyond what the DOD requests; in order to buy votes back home!

Would you support repealing Medicare, Medicaid, EMTALA and the like, and tolerating deprivation and amenable mortality for those who don't have the cash to cover whatever treatment they're needing?
No need to "repeal" any of them, considering they're all on the brink of going broke from the enormous waste, fraud, inefficiency and corruption forever present in all government agencies.

It's the nature of the beast!

You people appear to be oblivious to the fact that the United States is $20,000,000,000,000 in the red and growing.

That's 20 Trillion Dollars in case you can't decipher all those zeros.

You are not correct. Amendment IX states: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Jefferson was against a Bill of Rights in part because he was afraid people in the future would things are you are.
The "enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights" does not pertain to rights that have no enumeration.

And the reason those "rights" you allude to have no enumeration is because they're non-existent!

All of which is utterly irrelevant to what I stated.

What else do you have?
Those things I mentioned are totally relevant to any responsibility people want to relegate to government.
 
The "enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights" does not pertain to rights that have no enumeration.

And the reason those "rights" you allude to have no enumeration is because they're non-existent!

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The words do not say that. Moreover I'm not aware of a single constitutional law scholar, SC decision or document from the founding era that would agree with this position. You may be the only person in the history of the nation to suggest the amendment be interpreted in this way.

You are completely wrong. You could not be more wrong.
 
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