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will the democrats crash and burn in 2018?

will democrats crash and burn in 2018?


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Did I forget the election in which a quarter of the voting age population voted Republicans into power? No, I haven't forgotten. The rest of America wasn't unified or energized like they are now, and if they continue to be unified and energized, it will be a rout for Republicans.

The rest of your analysis is ignorant and doesn't interest me.

Did you forget that if Hillary would have won, she would have done so with only 25% support from the public? Did you forget that voters have thrown Democrats asses out around the entire country for six years now, giving Republicans the most control of any party since 1928?
 
It will be extremely important for Democrats to keep the public informed of what they are losing and have lost, and that their party and their ideology are uniquely equipped to giving those things back to them.

Like giving them back Obamacare, an anemic GDP growth rate, doubling the national debt, the most disastrous foreign policy, the list goes on and on. There was a reason that under Obama the Dems lost in 8 yrs over a thousand seats across the country and the House, Senate and the Presidency

What's also very important is that we're seeing fresh grass roots Democratic movements, which are absolutely critical to revitalizing the Democratic Party.

What your seeing is your party moving further to the left than ever before. Not a winning strategy, that same strategy lost those thousand seats and capitol hill.
 
So is that code for you can't answer my question?

guy, i already told you i am not going to go into division on the republican voters vs a democrat , the thread is about the tactic being used by the democrats and will it be successful .
 
Very similiar to what the GOP got up to after Obamas 2008 win, with a little overreach from the current admin, it worked for the Republicans in 2010, eerily familiar ya?

Maybe. The parallels between the current Resistance movement and the success of the Tea Party are still not entirely clear. One theory that's been suggested is that the Tea Party's racial and more importantly cultural homogeneity helped that movement to stay unified. I heard that theory on the latest 538 podcast -- if you're interested you can hear about the importance of common culture in this regard there. As one person on that podcast said, "Culture matters." Whatever the reason, the Tea Party was very good at sustaining their anger, and it received broad financial and media support where it counted. The Left has the moral outrage podium right now, and if it can sustain its focus and receive the kind of broad financial and media support the Tea Party enjoyed, it will persist into the midterms, at which point Republicans will be toast.
 
The Dems best shot is the Senate, they will be defending I believe 12 seats, it will be a tall order to flip, but not impossible with a little more nuttiness from Trump.

I don't think it's impossible. It's a tall wall to climb, to be sure, but not impossible.
 
That may fly as a concept in the boiler rooms, but it would be wise to step back and see how the majority of the nation is thinking, as opposed to the message people are paying to have spread around.

Liberals make the mistake of believing that since they are so loud, that makes up for lack of numbers. It doesn't.
 
guy, i already told you i am not going to go into division on the republican voters vs a democrat , the thread is about the tactic being used by the democrats and will it be successful .
Then you seem to have missed the point of my post. That's okay.
 
If the American public stays focused and energized in the course of the next two years, Republicans will be run out of power in both the House and the Senate. If the American public grows cynical and exhausted, then it's a crap shoot.

You make the mistake of thinking that the "American Public" are Democrats. The American Public is the American Public. Liberals are liberals.
 
Low voter turnout in 2016 helped the Don, lowest participation rate in 20 years. I believe we will have record turnout next year for a midterm, and we know who high turnout favours historically. Of course the Don may decide to act Presidental one day soon, but Im not holding ny breath.

And if he acted Republican presidential you would then support him?
 
You make the mistake of thinking that the "American Public" are Democrats. The American Public is the American Public. Liberals are liberals.

The American public has objectively lost many things and will continue to lose many things in the coming years. Republicans aren't just taking those things away from Liberals. Democrats will need to keep the public reminded and informed of that in the coming two years, as well as to remind them that it's their party that is uniquely equipped to give those things back to them. If Democrats can stay on point, then they will win.

And of course they will need to field fresh, charismatic candidates, but that should always be a given.
 
iam not here to deflect anything on to the voters be they D or R to create any division here in this thread, but only will the tactic being used work for 2018.

The tactic will not work for 2018. However, the tactic will work for years past 2018.
 
Maybe. The parallels between the current Resistance movement and the success of the Tea Party are still not entirely clear. One theory that's been suggested is that the Tea Party's racial and more importantly cultural homogeneity helped that movement to stay unified. I heard that theory on the latest 538 podcast -- if you're interested you can hear about the importance of common culture in this regard there. As one person on that podcast said, "Culture matters." Whatever the reason, the Tea Party was very good at sustaining their anger, and it received broad financial and media support where it counted. The Left has the moral outrage podium right now, and if it can sustain its focus and receive the kind of broad financial and media support the Tea Party enjoyed, it will persist into the midterms, at which point Republicans will be toast.

Big problem with the current opposition, no effective leadership, but I know a guy who is unemployed with some good qualifications that may fit the bill. He has been out of work since 20 Jan, good communication skills, adept at reaching out, and has senior management experience.
 
The American public has objectively lost many things and will continue to lose many things in the coming years. Republicans aren't just taking those things away from Liberals. Democrats will need to keep the public reminded and informed of that in the coming two years, as well as to remind them that it's their party that is uniquely equipped to give those things back to them. If Democrats can stay on point, then they will win.

The American public is a combination of Democrats, Republicans, and others. The only ones who have actually lost are the Democrats. The "American public" did not want to lose their guns, they did not want to lose their jobs, and they didn't want to lose the Supreme Court. Put those in your pipe and smoke them.
 
Big problem with the current opposition, no effective leadership, but I know a guy who is unemployed with some good qualifications that may fit the bill. He has been out of work since 20 Jan, good communication skills, adept at reaching out, and has senior management experience.

Are you talking about a singular head, type of leadership?
 
will the democrats crash and burn in 2018 because of their scorched earth policy and the left's constant attacks on trump.

i myself know of people who don't like trump however they cant stand what the democrats in government are doing

will the democrats succeed in following this path into the next election and pickup more seats in congress, or lose more seats?

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The Dems still haven't wised up to the fact that Bernie was their "popular" candidate. If they continue nominating sold out scumbags for office, they will lose even more offices. OTOH, if they accept the populist notions within the Party, they may be able to generate a turnaround. I don't expect that. The people running the DNC are still Clintonistas to the detriment of the Party.
 
Are you talking about a singular head, type of leadership?

I dont think they need a singular figure head at this point, but some effective management behind the scenes is required, that is how the Tea Party succeded.
 
I think Republicans will make some gains in the Senate in 2018 but lose some ground in the House. The scorched Earth policy seemed to work well for them against Obama. As of 2018 Republicans will have hit their plateau and then it's downhill from there. It is inevitable for both parties that things will keep on flip flopping every several years. Every time one party has been written off as dead they rise like Lazarus or the Phoenix. It is a mistake to think that a party will be sent to the scrapheap of time. That's what the Democrats were saying just before this election.
I think it remains to be seen if the favorable political climate has peeked for the gop. The mood of the publix will be dictated by what the right offees in leadership role and what the left obstructs.

Currently i think the majority of pwoplw are frusteated with the level of obstructism taking place. Trump was elected because people want to try something new. Best things democrats can do is go on record onjecting to the rights proposals but give the righ5 enough rope to hang themselves with.

The righr spent 8yrs telling everyone h9w they had better solutions byt needed seats now they got them. If the left continues to effectively block everything i expect the gop to gain more seats until yhey have enough to get a fair opprotunity to impliment their approach

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The American public is a combination of Democrats, Republicans, and others. The only ones who have actually lost are the Democrats. The "American public" did not want to lose their guns, they did not want to lose their jobs, and they didn't want to lose the Supreme Court. Put those in your pipe and smoke them.

Um...no. As much as you might like to think so, Democrat voters aren't having their environmental and financial protections removed while Republican voters are keeping theirs. And the 24 million people who will lose their insurance as well as the millions of people who will lose medicaid are Republicans as well as Democrats. Republican policies have been a broadside attack against the entirety of the American people, and if Democrats can stay on point and remind the public of that, and that it's their policies that will return those things to them, then Republicans will experience a complete rout in 2018.
 
The Dems still haven't wised up to the fact that Bernie was their "popular" candidate. If they continue nominating sold out scumbags for office, they will lose even more offices. OTOH, if they accept the populist notions within the Party, they may be able to generate a turnaround. I don't expect that. The people running the DNC are still Clintonistas to the detriment of the Party.

Scumbag? Bernie is one of the few politicians without a track record of lies, unlike Trump who's list of porkies grows daily.
 
I dont think they need a singular figure head at this point, but some effective management behind the scenes is required, that is how the Tea Party succeded.

Ah, right. Well I agree, and I think what's going on at the moment is an effective grass roots energy that is, in my mind, being coordinated quite well for this early a stage. Now if we saw the current level of coordination, say, a year from now, then I would agree that there's a problem.
 
Scumbag? Bernie is one of the few politicians without a track record of lies, unlike Trump who's list of porkies grows daily.

Yeah, Jesus. If you don't agree with Bernie because of his socialist policies, that's fine, but he's one of the most principled human beings in politics.
 
Ah, right. Well I agree, and I think what's going on at the moment is an effective grass roots energy that is, in my mind, being coordinated quite well for this early a stage. Now if we saw the current level of coordination, say, a year from now, then I would agree that there's a problem.

To add on to your point, Im sure there is lots of things going on behind the scenes to oppose Trump I am not aware of. Either way, I will keep protesting peacefully, and writing my Senator, who happens to be Warren, she has a few of my letters.
 
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