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How should we deal with Trump's statements?

How should we deal with Trump's statements?

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Captain Adverse said:
Ah, but;

- Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

Just because YOU don't know (or choose not to recognize) anyone as being Alt-Left does not mean it does not exist, any more than someone on the Right claiming there is no such thing as the Alt-Right. :roll:

As for the rest of your comment? Where is your evidence Hannity is the originator of the term?

Why would you assume I watch his show? (Which I don't. I prefer Tucker Carlson.)

Why would you think no one could independently come up with a term as simple as Alt-Left after seeing the constant use of Alt-Right in this Forum?

Since when do you dictate what other members choose to raise in their responses? Did you get appointed the Forum P.C. speech editor? :confused:
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Yes, I got appointed Forum PC speech editor. I'm so sorry you missed the memo.

Of course you made it up. But then again, you are a Trump supporter, so you probably did. You guys make a lot of things up, just like the great man himself does.
 
Cardinal said:
We learned the other day that when Trump said "wiretapping" he didn't mean "wiretapping." We also learned that when Trump promised full coverage for everybody, that wasn't actually important. Examples, of course, abound. Moving forward, what is the most logical way to interpret his statements so that the nation as a whole knows how to deal with the reality of his Presidency for the next four years?
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The same way I do the claims of Russian interference in our election. I take the claims with a grain of salt until I see actual proof. So far I haven't seen any proof in the Russian interference claims.
 
Fearandloathing said:
I recommend laughter.
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This. Then again, I have taken to laugh at Trump, Trump's Administration, those who are rabidly anti-Trump, those who are rabidly PRO-Trump, the leftwing media, the right wing media, and pretty much anything that has to do with US government, these days.

We are currently living inside one large, never-ending SNL sketch.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
This. Then again, I have taken to laugh at Trump, Trump's Administration, those who are rabidly anti-Trump, those who are rabidly PRO-Trump, the leftwing media, the right wing media, and pretty much anything that has to do with US government, these days.

We are currently living inside one large, never-ending SNL sketch.
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Yep, what goes around comes around.
 
Cardinal said:
We learned the other day that when Trump said "wiretapping" he didn't mean "wiretapping." We also learned that when Trump promised full coverage for everybody, that wasn't actually important. Examples, of course, abound. Moving forward, what is the most logical way to interpret his statements so that the nation as a whole knows how to deal with the reality of his Presidency for the next four years?
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He proudly portrays himself as the man with ALL the answers (believe him), so he invites literal interpretation... with a bit of "STFU" thrown in for reality sake.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
I've been saying that for months.
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Some of the declining news networks as well. I can watch CNN but not for news. Entertainment only. The serious cries and moans on election night will be a classic forever.

Now they have an inkling of what it's been like.

We just handled it differently with head down and hard work to get through it.
 
Cardinal said:
We learned the other day that when Trump said "wiretapping" he didn't mean "wiretapping." We also learned that when Trump promised full coverage for everybody, that wasn't actually important. Examples, of course, abound. Moving forward, what is the most logical way to interpret his statements so that the nation as a whole knows how to deal with the reality of his Presidency for the next four years?
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Treat him like we do every other bald-faced liar: Ignore everything he says, and only pay attention to his actions. In this case, that means paying attention to his policy proposals to Congress, his executive orders, what he does and doesn't veto, and anything else that is substantive.

But any claim that he makes should be summarily disregarded, because he has the entire press wrapped around his thumb. Every stupid, salacious comment he makes gets not even equal, but overwhelming coverage compared to his actual actions. And he plays them like a goddamn fiddle every week. "Oh, Sessions recuses himself? GUESS WHAT! I HEARD THAT OBAMA WIRETAPPED ME!" The children in the room aren't just the Trump administration, it's the press for being too goddamn dense to understand how he's using them. The worst case scenario is that they aren't that dense, they just prefer making money over telling the important truths.
 
Anything coming from Trump should be treated no differently that statements from any other president.
 
FieldTheorist said:
Treat him like we do every other bald-faced liar: Ignore everything he says, and only pay attention to his actions. In this case, that means paying attention to his policy proposals to Congress, his executive orders, what he does and doesn't veto, and anything else that is substantive.

But any claim that he makes should be summarily disregarded, because he has the entire press wrapped around his thumb. Every stupid, salacious comment he makes gets not even equal, but overwhelming coverage compared to his actual actions. And he plays them like a goddamn fiddle every week. "Oh, Sessions recuses himself? GUESS WHAT! I HEARD THAT OBAMA WIRETAPPED ME!" The children in the room aren't just the Trump administration, it's the press for being too goddamn dense to understand how he's using them. The worst case scenario is that they aren't that dense, they just prefer making money over telling the important truths.
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He is a bald-faced liar, but he's a bald-faced liar with power and the arrogance to use his army of Suckers to further his agenda. Hence, it is in our best interest to not ignore him.
 
radcen said:
He is a bald-faced liar, but he's a bald-faced liar with power and the arrogance to use his army of Suckers to further his agenda. Hence, it is in our best interest to not ignore him.
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When did I say we should ignore him?
 
Cardinal said:
We learned the other day that when Trump said "wiretapping" he didn't mean "wiretapping." We also learned that when Trump promised full coverage for everybody, that wasn't actually important. Examples, of course, abound. Moving forward, what is the most logical way to interpret his statements so that the nation as a whole knows how to deal with the reality of his Presidency for the next four years?
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Lies and propaganda. I wouldn't trust anything that came out of that man's mouth. Same as Clinton I suppose, lol.
 
radcen said:
Is simply adding to a post verboten? Must we always be contentious?
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You responded to me. I responded back. If you don't want me to respond back, then perhaps you misunderstand what a forum is for. As for alleged contentiousness, I only have a vague memory of you. I interact with a lot of people on this forum.
 
FieldTheorist said:
You responded to me. I responded back. If you don't want me to respond back, then perhaps you misunderstand what a forum is for. As for alleged contentiousness, I only have a vague memory of you. I interact with a lot of people on this forum.
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Your awkward attempt at dismissal is noted.
 
Cardinal said:
We learned the other day that when Trump said "wiretapping" he didn't mean "wiretapping." We also learned that when Trump promised full coverage for everybody, that wasn't actually important. Examples, of course, abound. Moving forward, what is the most logical way to interpret his statements so that the nation as a whole knows how to deal with the reality of his Presidency for the next four years?
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Actually those of us with common sense and had been paying attention recalled the many news stories using the word "wiretap" which was merely quoted. Having read the stories it was clear surveillance was a broader more likely term and is still in the air.

And Obama is merely a short version for the Obama administration which we know was a surveillance machine.

By contrast extreme literalists and the intellectually dishonest were determined to follow Sweden off the cliff again unstoppable in their pursuit of a dream of hatred towards one guy trying to make it better than it was before.

Identity politics on display.

Sweden and Denmark have highest rates of sexual harassment in Europe – Save My Sweden

Three Muslims charged over Uppsala ‘Facebook rape video’ – Save My Sweden

Healthcare is more important than coverage to the individual and that is already mandatory in any ER across the land.

Please don't think I am picking on you.
I think you are smart but just a little wrongheaded and not hopeless.

It's good that you recognize that part of the problem is interpretation.
A micro literalist will have great problems understanding a big picture generalist. Especially if the subject is unfamiliar.

Be safe
 
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