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If Maddow hadn't obtained Trump's tax return, would he have released them?

If Maddow hadn't obtained Trump's tax return, would he have released them?

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Moderate Right said:
Ummmmmmmm. You obviously haven't read many of my posts. I defend Trump all the time from the rabid liberal left. But, in this case, it is my OPINION that Trump or his people leaked this return. Whether he did or not I really don't know, that's why it is just my opinion.
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Vancemack thinks you are me, and he has of course skewered my opinions on many subjects there, but that hasn't stopped anybody any other time.
 
radcen said:
If Maddow hadn't obtained Trump's tax return, would he have released them?

'Yes' or 'No' only. None of this, "I don't know" or "You can't prove that" crap. Have a backbone and state an opinion.
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hell no, not one chance that this would have happened.
 
add other and dont care as options.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Vancemack thinks you are me, and he has of course skewered my opinions on many subjects there, but that hasn't stopped anybody any other time.
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I mis-attributed his comments to the general douchebagey nature of those that are rushing to judgement based on their own particular bias and hatred. And I apologized for confusing him with them.
 
Vox said:
No, your claims about me would not be "correct," they would be claims.......because they would not be proven or unproven......and you can claim them forever if you wish--it would not bother me in the least.

That seems to be the part you don't get.

Get it now?
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I hear you. You are a firm advocate of talking out of your ass. Thats sort of like Trump stating Obama wiretapped him. So...you are in good company.



I understand you better now. Thanks.
 
radcen said:
Could you elaborate?
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Yes or no??? Really, who the **** really knows? So you want people to say with conviction whether he going to do one thing or the other, even though there is no law that say he has to. If you don't believe he should have to, you're only option is to vote NO. Then you can take the NO's and justify it with what Madcow did as the only way to know what his taxes were. Voting YES serves no purpose at all, except to put people in a position to be asked WHEN. So it's a win-lose for you.
 
American said:
Yes or no??? Really, who the **** really knows? So you want people to say with conviction whether he going to do one thing or the other, even though there is no law that say he has to. If you don't believe he should have to, you're only option is to vote NO. Then you can take the NO's and justify it with what Madcow did as the only way to know what his taxes were. Voting YES serves no purpose at all, except to put people in a position to be asked WHEN. So it's a win-lose for you.
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Ok, got'cha, you didn't understand the question. No problem. Go back and read it again. The question had zero to do with the law. The question had zero to do with with expectations, or even promises. The question was simply 'do you think he set this up, or not'? That's all. Anything beyond that is in your imagination.

Given his personality and his history, and the rabidness that people on both sides exhibit, it's not unreasonable to expect people to have definitive opinions. But they are just that, opinions. Speculation, if that helps soothe your sensibilities. And this is a debate website, so people get to discuss things that you may not want discussed.
 
radcen said:
Ok, got'cha, you didn't understand the question. No problem. Go back and read it again. The question had zero to do with the law. The question had zero to do with with expectations, or even promises. The question was simply 'do you think he set this up, or not'? That's all. Anything beyond that is in your imagination.

Given his personality and his history, and the rabidness that people on both sides exhibit, it's not unreasonable to expect people to have definitive opinions. But they are just that, opinions. Speculation, if that helps soothe your sensibilities. And this is a debate website, so people get to discuss things that you may not want discussed.
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What's the point in asking then? Just curious? Come on, that doesn't exist around here when it comes to Trump.
 
Trump will not release his taxes... he does not give a blank about what the majority of American people want to see. in fact that also proves he doesn't care about the American citizens I knew that a year ago.. he just cut a lot of money to the epa..that right there proves he does not care about the air ,land or water of the united states. he just cares about money...but that's what you people want to control our country...thank god I live in California we have the strictest environmental laws...in fact in the city of l.a. you cant buy a gallon of oil based paint because of the fumes it lets out and we have the strictest smog test in the world for cars. a pain in the but.....yes but at least we are not walking around with masks like they do in china
 
VanceMack said:
Its a lot of peoples 'opinions'. Opinions based without any foundation of fact. Far too many people have formed 'opinions' presented as fact about Russia and Trump...based on nothing but their own mindless hatred. They have also formed opinions based on the wiretapping claims...based on nothing but their own mindless hatred. So if I unfairly lumped you in with those douchebags...then I do sincerely apologize.
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Please don't make me start defending the left now. Baseless claims work both ways.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Vancemack thinks you are me, and he has of course skewered my opinions on many subjects there, but that hasn't stopped anybody any other time.
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Others have made that mistake before. I'm for fairness on all sides. I actually hate defending Trump but far too many go after him for no other reason than just blind partisanship. If he keeps it up I am going to have to start defending the left and I really hate defending either side, especially the extremes of both sides.
 
Moderate Right said:
Please don't make me start defending the left now. Baseless claims work both ways.
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Indeed. Ive said as much which is why I made sure to include Trumps claims re wiretapping. Im not picking sides. I dont have an opinion on any of it and have said all along...have hearings...dig. Let the chips fall.
 
Moderate Right said:
Others have made that mistake before. I'm for fairness on all sides. I actually hate defending Trump but far too many go after him for no other reason than just blind partisanship. If he keeps it up I am going to have to start defending the left and I really hate defending either side, especially the extremes of both sides.
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I have defended Trump for all of four things. His winning the election, Some of his cabinet picks, his slashing of Net Neutrality rules, and this. I'll admit sometimes he wins, but that's not enough to counter all the negativity, chaos, and ridiculousness.
 
plutonium said:
Trump will not release his taxes... he does not give a blank about what the majority of American people want to see.
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They want to reclaim control of our borders.

Eff the EPA.
 
VanceMack said:
Indeed. Ive said as much which is why I made sure to include Trumps claims re wiretapping. Im not picking sides. I dont have an opinion on any of it and have said all along...have hearings...dig. Let the chips fall.
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I found it interesting today that Comey said the DOJ has given him permission to reveal investigations regarding connections to Russia and their attempts to influence the US elections. To me that says that Trump's DOJ feels perfectly safe in letting Comey investigate. I don't think there is any doubt that Russia tried influencing the elections but as far as any collusions go, I doubt they will find anything. The left is grasping at straws to bring Trump down and that's all it is.
 
Moderate Right said:
I found it interesting today that Comey said the DOJ has given him permission to reveal investigations regarding connections to Russia and their attempts to influence the US elections. To me that says that Trump's DOJ feels perfectly safe in letting Comey investigate. I don't think there is any doubt that Russia tried influencing the elections but as far as any collusions go, I doubt they will find anything. The left is grasping at straws to bring Trump down and that's all it is.
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Ive had conclusions about Russia but they dont have anything to do with Trump, or the CIA, or FBI, or even Russia. If you watch the videos since June of last year you see democrat after democrat using the Russians as their scapegoat to avoid the content of the released emails. I dont know who 'hacked' Podesta's emails...but we know how they were hacked and we know what they found. It was very telling after Donna Brazille spent MONTHS denying the content of those emails and claiming that the emails had been altered and it was the Russians and she was a victim, only a few days ago she has finally admitted to her actions and the content of the email. Russia has been the DNCs boogeyman and their favorite excuse as to why they lost.
 
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