Russian/Trump Connections are what?

Porkuloss said:

I don't have time to verify everything on that obscure website now. I may later if I get more interested, but your conjecture seems to be that the DNC released emails that embarrassed them and damaged Clinton in order to go after Trump? The immediate effect was obviously not going to help the dems. Why not take the "meat" out of the emails? That part doesn't pass a basic logic test.

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Harry Guerrilla said:

No, that's not the point.
The DNC created Guccifer to tie Wikileaks to Russia, as well as Trump and undermine the leaks Wikileaks released.
Guccifer the online personality, never really released anything damaging about the DNC at all.
In fact, some of the things he released had already been released years ago.

Guccifer2.0, the online personality only came out after Julian Assange said they had information on the DNC and Clinton campaign.

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Porkuloss said:

Oh, okay. So the whole Mannifort/Flynn/Assange/Trump/Putin thing is outside the realm of this and still up for grabs regardless. Sorry, I missed that.

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ModerateGOP said:

So with all this Russian Stuff coming out and how the Trump campaign had secret back channel talks with Russian officials during the Republican Convention and also at Trump tower it seems to me that this scandal is not going to go away anytime soon. Sessions is clearly on his last legs and I have a feeling more officials are going down. What say you?

Check all that apply.

1. This is a serious issue that requires further investigation before my mind is made up
2. This is a ploy concocted by the Democrats to stall any and all cabinent picks
3. This is the story that will eventually lead to Trump's impeachment
4. This is an annoying phony story. Fake News.
5. Trump doesn't know anything about the Russian talks, and there are no more people involved with the story.
6. This is a damaging story that proves that Trump has many ties to Russia
7. This is all linked back to the DNC hacking scandal and Trump's messy and secret finances and other business deals.
8. Putin is using the Russian Peegate sex tape as a hold over Trump in order to negotiate things through back-channel deals.

Sorry this was supposed to be a poll.

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Where’s the outrage?

Democrat Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer continues to push the Russia conspiracy.
But it was Schumer who met with Putin in New York City – not Trump.

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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Friday that she's never met with the current Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak.

"Not with this Russian ambassador, no," Pelosi told POLITICO's Jake Sherman and Anna Palmer during a Playbook interview, when asked if she'd ever met with the Russian envoy.

But a file photo from Pelosi's 2010 meeting with Russian President Dmitriy Medvedev shows Kislyak at the table across from Pelosi — then House speaker — and Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.). Medvedev had been in the country for a meeting with President Barack Obama a day earlier and stopped in on Capitol Hill to meet with congressional leaders as well.

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House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, who has demanded the resignation of Attorney General Jeff Sessions for meeting with the Russian ambassador while a member of Congress, herself met with Vladimir Putin's right-hand man in Washington in 2010 while President Obama was in power.

Pelosi hosted then Russian President Dmitry Medvedev at the U.S. Capitol, at a time when concerns about Russia's human rights continued to persist, especially in the liberal wing of her party.

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NonoBadDog said:

Flashback: Chuck Schumer Meets with Putin in New York City

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YorkshirePete said:

How long did watergate take?
It is hilarious, bill was impeached for a BJ, our top cop commits purgery. Nothing like comparable crimes

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NonoBadDog said:

Pelosi lied? Say it ain't so!!!!!

Photo contradicts Pelosi's statement about not meeting Kislyak - POLITICO

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vesper said:

lol
Trump just posted on twitter a little while ago first calling out Schumer

Donald J. Trump‏
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@realDonaldTrump

We should start an immediate investigation into @SenSchumer and his ties to Russia and Putin. A total hypocrite!


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Then he called out Pelosi

Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
I hereby demand a second investigation, after Schumer, of Pelosi for her close ties to Russia, and lying about it.
Database Error.
politico.com/story/2017/03/
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4:02 PM - 3 Mar 2017


:lol:

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Visbek said:

Yes, Schumer met with Putin... in 2003

As in, when relations weren't too bad with the US and Russia; as in, before they started waging cyber warfare on their enemies; as in, over a decade before they invaded Ukraine; as in, at a time when a Senator meeting Putin wasn't a problem.

Oh, and Schumer didn't lie under oath about meeting Putin, and we have no indication they talked during the 2016 election.

But hey, why bother with relevant facts when you can just play the False Equivalent Game?

:roll:

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Visbek said:

Yes, Schumer met with Putin... in 2003

As in, when relations weren't too bad with the US and Russia; as in, before they started waging cyber warfare on their enemies; as in, over a decade before they invaded Ukraine; as in, at a time when a Senator meeting Putin wasn't a problem.

Oh, and Schumer didn't lie under oath about meeting Putin, and we have no indication they talked during the 2016 election.

But hey, why bother with relevant facts when you can just play the False Equivalent Game?

:roll:

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ModerateGOP said:

So with all this Russian Stuff coming out and how the Trump campaign had secret back channel talks with Russian officials during the Republican Convention and also at Trump tower it seems to me that this scandal is not going to go away anytime soon. Sessions is clearly on his last legs and I have a feeling more officials are going down. What say you?

Check all that apply.

1. This is a serious issue that requires further investigation before my mind is made up
2. This is a ploy concocted by the Democrats to stall any and all cabinent picks
3. This is the story that will eventually lead to Trump's impeachment
4. This is an annoying phony story. Fake News.
5. Trump doesn't know anything about the Russian talks, and there are no more people involved with the story.
6. This is a damaging story that proves that Trump has many ties to Russia
7. This is all linked back to the DNC hacking scandal and Trump's messy and secret finances and other business deals.
8. Putin is using the Russian Peegate sex tape as a hold over Trump in order to negotiate things through back-channel deals.

Sorry this was supposed to be a poll.

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McCaskill has joined the dog pile of Democrats calling for Sessions’s resignation over the debacle. She threw some additional shade in the Attorney General’s direction Thursday morning by tweeting that she’s never met with Russia’s ambassador in the 10 years she’s served on the U.S. Senate Committee on Armed Services.

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So what gives? Why would McCaskill claim to have never met with said Russian ambassador if she had indeed met with him twice? Did McCaskill forget about these meetings, or did she intentionally neglect to mention them when she lambasted Sessions this morning?

McCaskill’s tweet dated August 6, 2015, corresponds with reports from the same day that 30 Senate Democrats met with “top diplomats” from Russia and China to salvage the Iran Nuclear Deal.

McCaskill has since tweeted that she attended a meeting with the Russian ambassador four years ago.

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The New York Times took Sen. Claire McCaskill at her word Thursday morning, and uncritically repeated the Missouri Democrat's false claim that she had never "ever" met with the Russian ambassador in her capacity as a member of the Armed Services Committee.

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The paper quietly removed this phony charge from one of its stories after it was shown the senator's statement was less-than-accurate. However, the Times article in question, "Jeff Sessions Recuses Himself From Russia Inquiry," has not been updated with an editor's note showing it included, and then removed, false information.

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The Times wasted no time running with her claim. The paper's article originally included a passage that read, "Senator Claire McCaskill, Democrat of Missouri, cast doubt on Mr. Sessions's explanation that he had met with the Russian ambassador because of his duties as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, saying that was beyond the panel's jurisdiction."

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natsb said:

The whole thing is Cleary a phony story.

If not for the entertainment value of watching all the hyperbolic head explosions on the left, I might label it annoying.

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Paperview said:

What the hell is it with some conservatives and their logic mechanism? This is spreading around like wildfire on the viral coo-coo for cocoa nut RWNJ sites, and they don't have a lick of understanding how ridiculous the comparisons are. Trump included.

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NonoBadDog said:

Oh, damn, another lying hypocrite Democrat politician. Check this out.

Did Sen. McCaskill Just Lie About Meeting With Russia's Ambassador?


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Then the NYT tries to cover up their asinine reporting on the issue:
NYT stealth edits bogus McCaskill charge | Washington Examiner

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Cardinal said:

It's a willful misreading of the issue. I would ignore it.

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Visbek said:

Yes, Schumer met with Putin... in 2003

As in, when relations weren't too bad with the US and Russia; as in, before they started waging cyber warfare on their enemies; as in, over a decade before they invaded Ukraine; as in, at a time when a Senator meeting Putin wasn't a problem.

Oh, and Schumer didn't lie under oath about meeting Putin, and we have no indication they talked during the 2016 election.

But hey, why bother with relevant facts when you can just play the False Equivalent Game?

:roll:

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Paperview said:

And that was one stupid-ass tweet from our retarded so called president.

Bet you can't figure out why.

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ModerateGOP said:

I'm not taking away the meaning of your posts because they are interesting even if they come across as, "Democrats did it too." However, this thread is about Trump and his Russian connections, not every democrat under the sun. I beg you to make your own thread on the Democratic Russian connections if you are so inclined because I do believe that warrants discussion too.

Now, what is your opinion on Trump/Russian connections specifically? As it relates to the thread.

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NonoBadDog said:

Then you answer the question. What did Sessions talk to the Russian ambassador about? Please answer with a straightforward response that has some validity and not a spin or diversion.

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