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Is Trump Making America Great Again?

Is Trump Making America Great Again?

  • Yes

    Votes: 30 20.5%

  • No

    Votes: 116 79.5%
  • Total voters
    146
Yes: He has disrupted the con of the elite class and shown that our Constitution is a thing a brilliance as it allows for bloodless rebellions.
 
coldjoint said:
You better relax or you won't last 8 months. I'll check with you in October.
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I grew up in the church & they told us to live every day like it's your last so, I just partied my *** off for 5 decades; you could be correct ..........
 
TurtleDude said:
if Trump is truly fascist, why are you posting stuff openly critical of him-aren't you worried about getting "re-educated"

the fact that you spend hours bashing Trump on a forum where Government techs could find out your name proves to me you don't believe the swill you spew about Trump
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Because we--yes, we--are using our First Amendment rights while we still have them.
 
Phys251 said:
Because we--yes, we--are using our First Amendment rights while we still have them.
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What so many do is communicate that they are not willing to accept the will of the people as expressed through free and fair elections, which is to say that they are for sure bad Americans and maybe just maybe they should be ignored until/unless they learn how to behave.
 
TurtleDude said:
No I don't know it
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Keep telling yourself that, bub.

TurtleDude said:
and I know Hillary would have been far worse for me.
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For now.. sure. Again, it will be interesting just how much Trump ****tiness you'll be willing to justify in your own head.

Also just fyi you don't always have to vote for your own self interests. I'm a progressive even though I know it'll probably cost me more in taxes.

TurtleDude said:
You see I am an expert on the federal judiciary. 99% of the federal judges are picked by the party in power's senior elected officials in the state, district or circuit where there is an opening. Example, if a southern district of ohio judgeship opens up-Rob Portman, Steve Chabot and and other GOP congressmen in the SDOH will send a name to the whitehouse. If a sixth circuit seat opens up and that seat is one of the Ohio seats, then Portman (as the ranking republican in the state federally, as well as GOP congressmen and perhaps Kasich) will determine who is sent to the White House.

For the USSC Trump obviously has more pull but the Federalist Society and the GOP senators on the judiciary committee are going to play major roles. I doubt you will see a USSC pick that doesn't have the endorsement of the Federalist society. Even when clinton was in office that was important. SDOH Judge Ed Sargus Jr (the son of the late general counsel of the United Mine workers and a big supporter of then senior Ohio Senator, the late John Glenn) was nominated by Clinton during the summer of his final year of his first term. The Federalist society had very positive endorsements from attorneys who worked with or knew Ed Sargus well. Senator Mike DeWine also supported his nomination. When the Senate Judiciary committee met to evaluate Judge Sargus's nomination, three senators appeared-Glenn who was his sponsor, Ohio's other senator (Dewine) and of course the Chairman Hatch. Ed noted that one of the first things Hatch said to him was that he (Hatch) and a letter from the Federalist society and that the FS supported Judge Sargus's appointment and Hatch noted given that support, Hatch was going to recommend he be confirmed which he was easily.
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Relevant how?
 
pragmatic said:
It's still early.

Let's give the fella a little more time.
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To do what? Do you expect him to turn into The Elder Statesman in a few months?
 
coldjoint said:
Let's wait for 8 years, then assess the damages. It is what we are doing now.
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Assess what damages? The far left liberal ultra-progressive agenda? I believe that agenda was why democrats/liberals/progressives lost the election. The only thing democrats need to do is assess the damage they did the last eight years.
 
TurtleDude said:
so when are the jackbooted fascists going to give you an electric colonoscopy for criticizing El Jefe?
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Not anytime soon. I'm purchasing a Ruger 5.56x45 NATO 30 shot insult weapon on Monday.

Unless you know where the good ones are (I do better pointed in the right direction). It's at Academy sports for 7 Benjamin. :)
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1066926026 said:
Most liberals do, and its highly entertaining.
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I love being an entertainer!
 
antiquity said:
Assess what damages? The far left liberal ultra-progressive agenda? I believe that agenda was why democrats/liberals/progressives lost the election. The only thing democrats need to do is assess the damage they did the last eight years.
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The depleted military, immigration disasters, and selective law enforcement and the consequences, the Iranian deal, and the huge division engineered by the Obama administration with the help of the media.
 
d0gbreath said:
Not anytime soon. I'm purchasing a Ruger 5.56x45 NATO 30 shot insult weapon on Monday.

Unless you know where the good ones are (I do better pointed in the right direction). It's at Academy sports for 7 Benjamin. :)
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we don't have academy here in SW Ohio but they were in Alabama and my wife got me some good boots there. Insult weapon?
 
So far, Trump is a total embarrassment.

Still spewing ugly campaign rhetoric, no conflict-of-interest safeguards, alienation of US intel agencies, US media, US neighbors and US allies, never-ending grandiose proclamations, no self-introspection whatsoever.

I can't point to even one substantial MAGA promise kept. Here are Donald Trump's 282 campaign promises

And John Boehner is spot-on. Trump/GOP aren't going to trash Obamacare. They will tweak the ACA and claim a totally new and majestic healthcare plan.
 
It's all according to what the definition of "Great" is and whether or not America was ever great.
I think it was, has America's position deteriated; & I think it has the infusion of a pride in
Nationhood may bring about the changes needed for revival.

Draining the Swamp will help: There are so many Obama type worker ants in the government it may take a
generation to rid ourselves of them.Case in point 95% of government workers donate to the Democrat Party.
We came SO close to sliding down the abyss. Thank God for people waking up to the boundless corruption
of the criminal "progressive" left.
 
coldjoint said:
The depleted military, immigration disasters, and selective law enforcement and the consequences, the Iranian deal, and the huge division engineered by the Obama administration with the help of the media.
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I believe what I was referring to was the post by 'coldjoint' who was talking about Trump after eight years, not the previous administration's eight years.

Quote Originally Posted by coldjoint View Post
Let's wait for 8 years, then assess the damages. It is what we are doing now.
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cuban smokes said:
it has EVERYTHING to do with a FAILED presidency .............. a distraction that the body politic & the people can embrace, without reserve .............

I know; the truth is pretty ................ pretty ugly ................
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And 9/11 attack by terrorists who entered PRE BUSH, trained PRE BUSH and planned PRE BUSH.
 
antiquity said:
I believe what I was referring to was the post by 'coldjoint' who was talking about Trump after eight years, not the previous administration's eight years.
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I believe you began your reply with what damages.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
What so many do is communicate that they are not willing to accept the will of the people as expressed through free and fair elections, which is to say that they are for sure bad Americans and maybe just maybe they should be ignored until/unless they learn how to behave.
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The will of the people was that Hillary Rodham Clinton should have been president.
 
Phys251 said:
The will of the people was that Hillary Rodham Clinton should have been president.
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And my response to that argument is always going to be that we never changed the EC system, Trump won by the rules that exist not the rules some people want to exist, rules that are the will of the people as evidence by the people never changing them, therefor the result of those rules represents the will of the people therefor the person who wins by those rules represents the will of the people.

TRUMP: THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
And my response to that argument is always going to be that we never changed the EC system, Trump won by the rules that exist not the rules some people want to exist, rules that are the will of the people as evidence by the people never changing them, therefor the result of those rules represents the will of the people therefor the person who wins by those rules represents the will of the people.

TRUMP: THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE
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Did you know that putting false statements in large, bold font MAKES THEM TRUE?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
And my response to that argument is always going to be that we never changed the EC system, Trump won by the rules that exist not the rules some people want to exist, rules that are the will of the people as evidence by the people never changing them, therefor the result of those rules represents the will of the people therefor the person who wins by those rules represents the will of the people.

TRUMP: THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE
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That is true.

Well, almost.

Trump is the EC's choice and is our rightful president. He is NOT the people's choice.

You said it in your own statement.
 
You ask which one? Here's the one I was talking about. (See? I really read what you write! :) )

And my response to that argument is always going to be that we never changed the EC system, Trump won by the rules that exist not the rules some people want to exist, rules that are the will of the people as evidence by the people never changing them, therefor the result of those rules represents the will of the people therefor the person who wins by those rules represents the will of the people.
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You said Trump won by the rules of the EC. There is no argument there.

Then, you stated that "Trump : The People's Choice." Which is in direct conflict with your statement regarding the fact that Trump won by EC system.

You see, Hawkeye, in order for a President to go up to the podium and accept the "People's Choice," award, he would have had to actually been the "people's choice." That trophy is reserved to the candidate with the popular vote. Not the EC vote. Trump won the EC vote. Not the "people's" vote. He lost that vote. Good thing for him that that vote isn't the vote that matters. The EC vote matters.
 
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