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Lena VS Milo: Who is Worse?

Lena VS Milo: Who is Worse

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Mason66 said:
This is the person you are defending? Actions are worse than words.

In her newly published collection of personal essays, Not That Kind of Girl, Lena Dunham describes experimenting sexually with her younger sister Grace, whom she says she attempted to persuade to kiss her using “anything a sexual predator might do.” In one particularly unsettling passage, Dunham experimented with her six-year younger sister’s vagina. “This was within the spectrum of things I did,” she writes.


In the collection of nonfiction personal accounts, Dunham describes using her little sister at times essentially as a sexual outlet, bribing her to kiss her for prolonged periods and even masturbating while she is in the bed beside her. But perhaps the most disturbing is an account she proudly gives of an episode that occurred when she was seven and her sister was one. Here’s the full passage (p. 158-9):

“Do we all have uteruses?” I asked my mother when I was seven.
“Yes,” she told me. “We’re born with them, and with all our eggs, but they start out very small. And they aren’t ready to make babies until we’re older.” I look at my sister, now a slim, tough one-year-old, and at her tiny belly. I imagined her eggs inside her, like the sack of spider eggs in Charlotte’s Web, and her uterus, the size of a thimble.
“Does her vagina look like mine?”
“I guess so,” my mother said. “Just smaller.”
One day, as I sat in our driveway in Long Island playing with blocks and buckets, my curiosity got the best of me. Grace was sitting up, babbling and smiling, and I leaned down between her legs and carefully spread open her vagina. She didn’t resist and when I saw what was inside I shrieked.
My mother came running. “Mama, Mama! Grace has something in there!”
My mother didn’t bother asking why I had opened Grace’s vagina. This was within the spectrum of things I did. She just got on her knees and looked for herself. It quickly became apparent that Grace had stuffed six or seven pebbles in there. My mother removed them patiently while Grace cackled, thrilled that her prank had been a success.

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Lena Dunham Describes Sexually Abusing Her Little Sister | Truth Revolt
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She was a kid at the time. Surely you can focus and grasp that the actions of an adult are worse than those of a child.
 
“Imputing predatory motives to a seven-year-old girl and assigning a role of victim to her sister, who apparently doesn’t feel victimised in the slightest … seems more predatory and abusive than anything that Dunham describes in the book."

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Child therapists: Stop freaking out about Lena Dunham

"There is only one kind of person that I actually want to hear from on this: experts. People who have devoted their lives to researching, treating and preventing child sexual abuse. Folks who are the most sensitively and acutely attuned to detecting abusive behavior. Professionals who actually have an empirical sense of what is normal childhood behavior.

Well, I found those people. The most expert of experts on this topic. And they say Lena Dunham is no child molester. Or, more accurately, the behaviors that Dunham describes in her memoir are not child sexual abuse.

David Finkelhor, director of the Crimes Against Children Research Center, has devoted his career to researching child sexual abuse. He’s the author of such titles as “Sexually Victimized Children,” “Childhood Victimization,” “Child Sexual Abuse” and “Nursery Crimes.” I guess you could say he’s an expert on the topic? And this is what he had to tell me in response to claims that Dunham is a sexual abuser:

“In the sexual abuse field, we generally do not consider children age 7 as sexual abusers.”

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Sharon Lamb, author of several research papers on child sexual abuse, including, “‘Normal’ Childhood Sexual Play and Games: Differentiating Play From Abuse,” says of Dunham, “This is really within the norms of childhood sexual behavior,” she says. “Absolutely.” When Lamb, who has provided courtroom psychological evaluations of sexual abuse in children, interviewed therapists for her other book, “Sex, Therapy, and Kids: Addressing Their Concerns Through Talk and Play,” she encountered lots of similar tales."

More at link.

I can't ****ing believe some people are calling a seven year old looking at their siblings genitals a pedophile.

Just knuts!
 
calamity said:
Who knows, but he does admit to being at "parties" where under-aged boys were used for sex.
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Got a clip of that one? I know he often refers to young adult males as "boys" when discussing homosexuality.
 
Are we sure Lena Dunham wasn't playing doctor?
 
Hatuey said:
Are we sure Lena Dunham wasn't playing doctor?
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It depends on whether or not the person being asked is neck deep in the Right Wing news bubble. But, for the rest of us, something a person does when they are 7, most definitely can be interpreted as such.
 
Lena is a literal child molester. I don't think Milo has admitted it it, nor do I think he has done it.
 
ajn678 said:
Lena is a literal child molester. I don't think Milo has admitted it it, nor do I think he has done it.
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A child cannot be a child molester. Fail.

The high level of misinformation circling around drain in the RW bubble is like sewage in a water treatment plant.
 
ajn678 said:
And that means that one can't molest another?
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Should we hold you accountable for everything you did wrong at age-7?
 
calamity said:
Should we hold you accountable for everything you did wrong at age-7?
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No, but I do believe some of the stuff she did carried on further than age 7.
 
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