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Your political topology group

Your political typology group?

  • Business conservative

    Votes: 11 25.6%

  • Faith and family left

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Next generation left

    Votes: 6 14.0%

  • Hard-pressed skeptics

    Votes: 2 4.7%

  • Solid liberal

    Votes: 15 34.9%

  • Steadfast conservative

    Votes: 5 11.6%

  • Bystander

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Young outsider

    Votes: 4 9.3%
  • Total voters
    43
Business Conservatives generally are traditional small-government Republicans. Overwhelming percentages think that government is almost always wasteful and it does too much better left to businesses and individuals. Business Conservatives differ from Steadfast Conservatives in their positive attitudes toward business and in their strong support for Wall Street in particular. Most think that immigrants strengthen the country and take a positive view of U.S. global involvement. As a group, they are less socially conservative than Steadfast Conservatives.
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Pretty much.
 
Hmm...let me read the links.

skq said:
It's a very interesting website, where the different political totplogy groups are very well discribed.

Compare Political Typology Groups: Solid Liberals | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

Here you can do the quiz to find out your political typology group.

Political Typology Quiz | Pew Research Center
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Oh Gee.

Another methodology to try to categorize and put people in a box.

As if we don't already have enough labels being throw about either to seek allies or dismiss arguments out of hand. :coffeepap:
 
I'm pretty wary about these types of tests generally, with it hard to accurately separate people into a few distinct categories. This one I'm even less impressed with as I actually agreed with very few of the options, and was left to pick which one I felt slightly closer too.

That said, I got put into the left tail of Business Conservative.
 
Generally young, well-educated and financially comfortable, the Next Generation Left have very liberal attitudes on many issues, including homosexuality, abortion, the environment and foreign policy. While overall supportive of an activist government, most are wary of expanding the social safety net. Most also have relatively positive views of Wall Street’s impact on the economy. While most affiliate with the Democratic Party or lean Democratic, few consider themselves strong Democrats
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:lol: I am young, but not well educated or financially comfortable.
 
Anagram said:
I'm pretty wary about these types of tests generally, with it hard to accurately separate people into a few distinct categories. This one I'm even less impressed with as I actually agreed with very few of the options, and was left to pick which one I felt slightly closer too.

That said, I got put into the left tail of Business Conservative.
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I agree. I thought neither answer really, but took the closest to what I kinda thought.
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Question four doesn't have a choice for me, so I stopped taking the test. :shrug:
 
As usual, almost none of the questions had an answer that reflected me, because fundamentally it's trying to break this down into only 2 options (all the various outcomes are just shades of gray on the same simplistic metric), which is absolutely absurd when you consider the complexity of the modern political landscape.

I mean, when I'm just choosing between what sucks less, I come out as a liberal. But I don't think it solves anything and it's not the answer I want.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Oh Gee.

Another methodology to try to categorize and put people in a box.

As if we don't already have enough labels being throw about either to seek allies or dismiss arguments out of hand. :coffeepap:
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Yeah, and I don't think this is a particularly needed or helpful one. I get "solid liberal," which is funny because I'm not a "liberal" (unless you take the extremely watered-down definition of "anyone who's left-wing"). It doesn't seem to bother itself too much with anything other than a really basic left/right axis.

Personally, I don't mind having boxes that are descriptive and multi-dimensional, rather than generic and one-dimensional. Political compass does a much better job of categorizing people's views, although it's still limited in its 2 dimensional approach of "left/right" economics and "libertarian/authoritarian" social positions.
 
And then, there are fairly conservative folks like myself who can often despise certain elements of their own party, and actually go along in spirit with many progressive ideas......... and vice versa.

Is their another "pigeon hole" type test that categorizes people like myself?

You will find are many of us out there if you take to the time to look.
 
With a lot of the questions I did not fully agree with either option and just had to pick the one I slightly more agreed with.

I got Next Generation Left:

Generally young, well-educated and financially comfortable, the Next Generation Left have very liberal attitudes on many issues, including homosexuality, abortion, the environment and foreign policy. While overall supportive of an activist government, most are wary of expanding the social safety net. Most also have relatively positive views of Wall Street’s impact on the economy. While most affiliate with the Democratic Party or lean Democratic, few consider themselves strong Democrats.

That does largely describe me (though at age 40 idk if that is "generally young" anymore). Basically: Pro-Business, Pro-Environmental Regulation, Socially Liberal, and Very Leary of Expanding Social Safetynets / Programs.
 
I quizzed Young outsider. Seems plausible, except I'm not young.
I didn't check the quiz definition of Young Outsider and after SouthernDemocrat post I think I should have. I'm generally Conservative, but not Republican, I'm registered Green and serious about that. I chose the answers closest to my positions, though few were precise. The quiz results seem OK.
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DaveFagan said:
I quizzed Young outsider. Seems plausible, except I'm not young.
I didn't check the quiz definition of Young Outsider and after SouthernDemocrat post I think I should have. I'm generally Conservative, but not Republican, I'm registered Green and serious about that. I chose the answers closest to my positions, though few were precise. The quiz results seem OK.
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I am a not young "young outsider" as well.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Hmm...let me read the links.




Oh Gee.

Another methodology to try to categorize and put people in a box.

As if we don't already have enough labels being throw about either to seek allies or dismiss arguments out of hand. :coffeepap:
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Over the course of my life, I have found that some of the easiest people to label are those who resist labels.
 
I got steadfast conservative, but not one single question on that quiz could I actually answer with what was presented. I disagreed with every single answer they had. I don't really fit into any of those categories.
 
I received businsss conservative.

Anyway, one question about citizens and the government safety net seemed to suggest they were polar opposite views, but I found both were reasonable and compatible.

Government can make people too dependent on government, but that doesnt mean that government was doing too much for them, but rather that could also explain it was not doing enough for them. We focus a bit too much on the inputs (financial resources), when some of the key component to the welfare state also extend to how it is deigned to get people independent. Often times, it's those structures that are backwards, because they dont do much for people trying to claw out of poverty. Those job training programs often think about taking a guy or girl previously in middle management and consider their case closed if they can get them a job as a cashier. The same stupidity also reigns when government programs are getting young people ready for the workforce--preferring to call their work done if they got them a job as a cashier or a hotel janitor, instead of on the path to technical school, college, or university.

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SouthernDemocrat said:
With a lot of the questions I did not fully agree with either option and just had to pick the one I slightly more agreed with.

I got Next Generation Left:

Generally young, well-educated and financially comfortable, the Next Generation Left have very liberal attitudes on many issues, including homosexuality, abortion, the environment and foreign policy. While overall supportive of an activist government, most are wary of expanding the social safety net. Most also have relatively positive views of Wall Street’s impact on the economy. While most affiliate with the Democratic Party or lean Democratic, few consider themselves strong Democrats.

That does largely describe me (though at age 40 idk if that is "generally young" anymore). Basically: Pro-Business, Pro-Environmental Regulation, Socially Liberal, and Very Leary of Expanding Social Safetynets / Programs.
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I'd vote for you. I wasn't expecting to get this category. Many of my answers were just barely tilting towards one answer or another. It would depend situationally, of course. But the general description isn't far off.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
With a lot of the questions I did not fully agree with either option and just had to pick the one I slightly more agreed with.

I got Next Generation Left:

Generally young, well-educated and financially comfortable, the Next Generation Left have very liberal attitudes on many issues, including homosexuality, abortion, the environment and foreign policy. While overall supportive of an activist government, most are wary of expanding the social safety net. Most also have relatively positive views of Wall Street’s impact on the economy. While most affiliate with the Democratic Party or lean Democratic, few consider themselves strong Democrats.

That does largely describe me (though at age 40 idk if that is "generally young" anymore). Basically: Pro-Business, Pro-Environmental Regulation, Socially Liberal, and Very Leary of Expanding Social Safetynets / Programs.
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Yeah, this is quite antiquated terminology. The definition you just gave is the "New Democrat," who haven't been "new" since the 1990's. It's certainly not what is currently the "Next Generation" (i.e. Millennials and Gen Z/iGeneration/Post-Millennials, take your pick). You can pretty much look down the 2016 Bernie/Hillary divide and see where these two groups of the Left are differing. Young Gen X'ers, Millennials, and Post-Millennials are beginning to form a very, very different voting block than what came before.
 
joG said:
Thank you for the link. I have a slight problem with the questions. Many of them I cannot really answer, as both answers differ from my position.
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too many false dichotomies, and i only made it to question three. it's an interesting idea, but there need to be more encompassing choices or a "neither" option.
 
Helix said:
too many false dichotomies, and i only made it to question three. it's an interesting idea, but there need to be more encompassing choices or a "neither" option.
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There's at least one question where both answers are equally true. It's just badly written all around.
 
FieldTheorist said:
Yeah, this is quite antiquated terminology. The definition you just gave is the "New Democrat," who haven't been "new" since the 1990's. It's certainly not what is currently the "Next Generation" (i.e. Millennials and Gen Z/iGeneration/Post-Millennials, take your pick). You can pretty much look down the 2016 Bernie/Hillary divide and see where these two groups of the Left are differing. Young Gen X'ers, Millennials, and Post-Millennials are beginning to form a very, very different voting block than what came before.
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Definitely.

'New Democrats' are really more third way Clintonite Democrats that subverted the party in the 90s, and unofficially some time before that, and are essentially the Dem establishment of today. Millennial/'Next Generation' Democrats are much more aligned with the ascendant FDR/Bernie style social democrat progressives; Clintonism is the past, not the future.
 
I took the quiz again to see what percentage my individual responses meshed with and I was then tagged as a Faith and Family Left. I must have differed on one response, because I thought I was consistent in my responses.

I think that accident is important to understanding where I fit and may explain some dissatisfaction other posters faced. I'm between the Business Conservatives and the Faith and Family Left.

I'm at peace with corporate America, like military strength and international engagement, am not much of an environmentalist, am pro-strong family, and I care about social policies that benefit the most vulnerable but am interested in helping them become as independent as possible.

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skq said:
It's a very interesting website, where the different political totplogy groups are very well discribed.

Compare Political Typology Groups: Solid Liberals | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

Here you can do the quiz to find out your political typology group.

Political Typology Quiz | Pew Research Center
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What is it with these Progressive operations that they must always put people in a box?

If the objective of Progressives is to be tolerant of all, why the obsession to categorize and label?

Something tells me these Progressive funded efforts are designed to grade their followers and identify where they need further training and indoctrination.
 
ocean515 said:
What is it with these Progressive operations that they must always put people in a box?

If the objective of Progressives is to be tolerant of all, why the obsession to categorize and label?

Something tells me these Progressive funded efforts are designed to grade their followers and identify where they need further training and indoctrination.
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If you think this is a progressive thing, you don't read much. I can guarantee you didn't read Russel Kirk either.

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