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Your political topology group

Your political typology group?

  • Business conservative

    Votes: 11 25.6%

  • Faith and family left

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Next generation left

    Votes: 6 14.0%

  • Hard-pressed skeptics

    Votes: 2 4.7%

  • Solid liberal

    Votes: 15 34.9%

  • Steadfast conservative

    Votes: 5 11.6%

  • Bystander

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Young outsider

    Votes: 4 9.3%
  • Total voters
    43
Fiddytree said:
If you think this is a progressive thing, you don't read much. I can guarantee you didn't read Russel Kirk either.

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I don't think it is, I know it is.

Who do you think partners with the Pew Charitable Trust, the primary funder of the Pew Research Center?

For example:

https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/about/programs/us-programs/grantees/pew-charitable-trusts-0

Or, just for speed, because I'm not going to invest much time proving a well known fact.

Consider Pews Vice President. His background is a veritable who's who at the round table of the Progressive Machine.

Michael Caudell-Feagan

Michael Caudell-Feagan is a vice president at Pew, responsible for strategy development and operations for Pew’s programmatic work.

He has provided management and consulting services to private and family foundations, including the Carnegie Corporation of New York, Ford Foundation, Frances Fund, JEHT Foundation, John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, Open Society Foundations, Proteus Fund, Solidago Foundation, and Stern Family Fund. Prior to entering the field of philanthropy, he was the founder and executive director of Equal Justice Works, which collaborates with the nation’s leading law schools, law firms, corporate legal departments, and nonprofit organizations to ensure a sustainable pipeline of talented and trained lawyers involved in public service. He was also a federal and state lobbyist for public interest research groups.​


Why do you think the Government and all the left's MSM partners use Pew as the only source for calculating how many Illegal Aliens are in the country?

Gee, do you think they might want to downplay how many the left has encouraged to come here?


Back to the point, I don't understand the Progressives fixation on labels.

Oh, and no, I haven't read a word of Russell Kirk. Didn't even know who he was until you mentioned him. Why would I care what one guy had to say about conservatism. Are you trying to label me?
 
ocean515 said:
I don't think it is, I know it is.

Who do you think partners with the Pew Charitable Trust, the primary funder of the Pew Research Center?

For example:

https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/about/programs/us-programs/grantees/pew-charitable-trusts-0

Or, just for speed, because I'm not going to invest much time proving a well known fact.

Consider Pews Vice President. His background is a veritable who's who at the round table of the Progressive Machine.

Michael Caudell-Feagan

Michael Caudell-Feagan is a vice president at Pew, responsible for strategy development and operations for Pew’s programmatic work.

He has provided management and consulting services to private and family foundations, including the Carnegie Corporation of New York, Ford Foundation, Frances Fund, JEHT Foundation, John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, Open Society Foundations, Proteus Fund, Solidago Foundation, and Stern Family Fund. Prior to entering the field of philanthropy, he was the founder and executive director of Equal Justice Works, which collaborates with the nation’s leading law schools, law firms, corporate legal departments, and nonprofit organizations to ensure a sustainable pipeline of talented and trained lawyers involved in public service. He was also a federal and state lobbyist for public interest research groups.​


Why do you think the Government and all the left's MSM partners use Pew as the only source for calculating how many Illegal Aliens are in the country?

Gee, do you think they might want to downplay how many the left has encouraged to come here?


Back to the point, I don't understand the Progressives fixation on labels.

Oh, and no, I haven't read a word of Russell Kirk. Didn't even know who he was until you mentioned him. Why would I care what one guy had to say about conservatism. Are you trying to label me?
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Picked Kirk because he could not in any way be considered progressive.

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:lol:

Generally affluent and highly educated, most Solid Liberals strongly support the social safety net and take very liberal positions on virtually all issues. Most say they always vote Democratic and are unflagging supporters of Barack Obama. Overall, Solid Liberals are very optimistic about the nation’s future and are the most likely to say that America’s success is linked to its ability to change, rather than its reliance on long-standing principles. On foreign policy, Solid Liberals overwhelmingly believe that good diplomacy – rather than military strength – is the best way to ensure peace.
 
FieldTheorist said:
Yeah, this is quite antiquated terminology. The definition you just gave is the "New Democrat," who haven't been "new" since the 1990's. It's certainly not what is currently the "Next Generation" (i.e. Millennials and Gen Z/iGeneration/Post-Millennials, take your pick). You can pretty much look down the 2016 Bernie/Hillary divide and see where these two groups of the Left are differing. Young Gen X'ers, Millennials, and Post-Millennials are beginning to form a very, very different voting block than what came before.
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I agree with your characterization in that I have considered myself a "New Democrat" ever since I voted for the first time in 1996. However, demographically I am a young Gen X'er as the youngest Gen X are only 4 years younger than I am.
 
FieldTheorist said:
Yeah, and I don't think this is a particularly needed or helpful one. I get "solid liberal," which is funny because I'm not a "liberal" (unless you take the extremely watered-down definition of "anyone who's left-wing"). It doesn't seem to bother itself too much with anything other than a really basic left/right axis.

Personally, I don't mind having boxes that are descriptive and multi-dimensional, rather than generic and one-dimensional. Political compass does a much better job of categorizing people's views, although it's still limited in its 2 dimensional approach of "left/right" economics and "libertarian/authoritarian" social positions.
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Yeah, I got the same. "Solid Liberal".

This test sucks ass.
 
Generally young, well-educated and financially comfortable, the Next Generation Left have very liberal attitudes on many issues, including homosexuality, abortion, the environment and foreign policy. While overall supportive of an activist government, most are wary of expanding the social safety net. Most also have relatively positive views of Wall Street’s impact on the economy. While most affiliate with the Democratic Party or lean Democratic, few consider themselves strong Democrats.
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Pretty much fits, I guess. I normally vote for the Republicans since Democrats have gone off quilter and lost it. Support civil liberties, socially progressive, fiscally conservative, believe in strong military and strong international/humanitarian aid presence.
 
Eric7216 said:
Pretty much fits, I guess. I normally vote for the Republicans since Democrats have gone off quilter and lost it. Support civil liberties, socially progressive, fiscally conservative, believe in strong military and strong international/humanitarian aid presence.
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I got the same one. As it was pointed out earlier, what they are calling "Next Generation Left", is really just the old DLC / New Democrats from the 90s.
 
Apparently, I belong to the 'I don't give a ****' group.
 
Lutherf said:
Pretty much.
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I also very agree with these positions. But if you read these discribtion, you'd almost think that a business conservative is a democrat with a strong pro economy-leaning. But in my opinion, that is not the case. As a business conservative, you should also be really against gun control. You should also support traditional family values and be against the legalization of drugs.

Which republican are business conservatives in your opinion? Mitt Romney is a example in my opinion, but who else?
 
skq said:
I also very agree with these positions. But if you read these discribtion, you'd almost think that a business conservative is a democrat with a strong pro economy-leaning. But in my opinion, that is not the case. As a business conservative, you should also be really against gun control. You should also support traditional family values and be against the legalization of drugs.

Which republican are business conservatives in your opinion? Mitt Romney is a example in my opinion, but who else?
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If I thought about it that much I'd begin to think I wasted my time giving too much consideration to an internet quiz.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
I'm closer to Libertarianism than I am Liberalism.
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But when this is the case, you should be a right libertarian. If you are a left leaning libertarian, you advocate a lot of positions of the liberals, I think.
 
skq said:
But when this is the case, you should be a right libertarian. If you are a left leaning libertarian, you advocate a lot of positions of the liberals, I think.
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One can still be closer to libertarianism than social liberalism in ideology and still possess left-wing political positions.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Hmm...let me read the links.




Oh Gee.

Another methodology to try to categorize and put people in a box.

As if we don't already have enough labels being throw about either to seek allies or dismiss arguments out of hand. :coffeepap:
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Agreed, I got solid liberal and I am no liberal.

But I couldn't resist and took the quiz!
 
Van Basten said:
Agreed, I got solid liberal and I am no liberal.

But I couldn't resist and took the quiz!
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But according to your profile, you are liberal. Even if only slightly.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
One can still be closer to libertarianism than social liberalism in ideology and still possess left-wing political positions.
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But a classic libertarian can't be left-wing, because of his views on economy or gun ownership, for example.
 
FieldTheorist said:
Young Gen X'ers, Millennials, and Post-Millennials are beginning to form a very, very different voting block than what came before.
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And how is these voting block look like?
 
skq said:
But a classic libertarian can't be left-wing, because of his views on economy or gun ownership, for example.
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What? I'm economically conservative and I'm pro-2nd amendment. Your argument is invalid. The left-wing bent comes from my positive views on Socialism when it is applied correctly (without the involvement of authoritarianism).

For example, my opposition to Trump lies in his inherently authoritarian ideologies and views on the Presidency.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
What? I'm economically conservative and I'm pro-2nd amendment. Your argument is invalid. The left-wing bent comes from my positive views on Socialism when it is applied correctly (without the involvement of authoritarianism).

For example, my opposition to Trump lies in his inherently authoritarian ideologies and views on the Presidency.
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But you can't support economically conservative positions and socialism simultaneously. Because even without the involvement of authoritarianism, socialism is against economical freedom.
 
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