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KREMLINGATE - Will It BRING DOWN Trump?

KREMLINGATE - Will It Bring Trump Down?

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    Votes: 25 28.1%

  • No

    Votes: 64 71.9%
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will the investigation into the Russian connection with the Trump campaign aka KREMLINGATE be the undoing of the Trump presidency & bring Trump down?
 
cuban smokes said:
will the investigation into the Russian connection with the Trump campaign aka KREMLINGATE be the undoing of the Trump presidency & bring Trump down?
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Kremlingate. Love it! It might. I've learned to never say never. I don't think he made a deal. I don't think he did anything wrong. But I do think the Left will spin any connection into treason if they can.
 
I think it's in plain sight. Russia wants Crimea-sanctions lifted. They influence election to give Trump the couple points he needed to win. In exchange Trump puts Rex Tillerson in as SoS. Flynn gets caught discussing sanctions with the Russian ambassador. They fire Flynn and finger him as the Russian mole. Trump knew about Flynn's conversation weeks before the public found out. A multi-agency investigation is ongoing. They're digging up dirt on Manafort, Stone, Page, and Flynn. So far, that's what we know. I got my popcorn.
 
I don't know. I have a feeling this might be one of those times in which we can see and smell the smoke coming from everywhere. Hell, we are choking on the smoke and can even feel the heat increasing,and yet never find the fire.
 
MaggieD said:
Kremlingate. Love it! It might. I've learned to never say never. I don't think he made a deal. I don't think he did anything wrong. But I do think the Left will spin any connection into treason if they can.
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I agree with you. I don't think Trump is a Russian "Manchurian Candidate." At worst, IMO any actions they may have taken to help him were on their own and because they preferred him over a known problem with a Hillary Presidency.

But unlike our rabid anti-Trump activists, I don't know anything for sure so can't make any absolute statements of truth on the matter. :coffeepap:
 
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Come on, stop with the paranoid nonsense. Ever since Trump got elected, the idiots on the left have been desperate to bring him down. Grow up already.
 
There is at most a 2% chance that there is any there there, all there is is Trump and his people trying to sniff out a deal where the Russians help us get what we want, maybe solving Syria so that we can get a lot of the Muslims in Europe back home. But then I dont start from the fantasy position that Trump is a mentally ill man-child at the whim of the well trained Putin.
 
My first thought on this?

Almost 45 years after the Watergate break-in and people are still putting 'gate' on the end of scandals?
 
MaggieD said:
Kremlingate. Love it! It might. I've learned to never say never. I don't think he made a deal. I don't think he did anything wrong. But I do think the Left will spin any connection into treason if they can.
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I thought regressives were in favor of treason. Not in this case, I guess.
 
DA60 said:
My first thought on this?

Almost 45 years after the Watergate break-in and people are still putting 'gate' on the end of scandals?
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Will Gategate take down the media?!
 
cuban smokes said:
will the investigation into the Russian connection with the Trump campaign aka KREMLINGATE be the undoing of the Trump presidency & bring Trump down?
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Since there's no such thing as, "Kremlingate", I say, uh...no!
 
Captain Adverse said:
I agree with you. I don't think Trump is a Russian "Manchurian Candidate." At worst, IMO any actions they may have taken to help him were on their own and because they preferred him over a known problem with a Hillary Presidency.

But unlike our rabid anti-Trump activists, I don't know anything for sure so can't make any absolute statements of truth on the matter. :coffeepap:
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Technically, he'd be a Siberian candidate since its Russia we're talking about.
 
cuban smokes said:
will the investigation into the Russian connection with the Trump campaign aka KREMLINGATE be the undoing of the Trump presidency & bring Trump down?
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Maybe. Maybe not.

Despite living in the post-truth world, I think it's going to depend on what actually happened. Trump being friendly to Russia is bad and will undermine his administration, but it's not illegal. Actively collaborating with Russia will be much more problematic. Even so, things will have to be really bad before Democrats try to impeach him; they saw how an incomplete accusation made Clinton into a political martyr.
 
MaggieD said:
Kremlingate. Love it! It might. I've learned to never say never. I don't think he made a deal. I don't think he did anything wrong. But I do think the Left will spin any connection into treason if they can.
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Just like Benghazi.
 
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Fess up folks. If a Democratic Party President was too close to Putin, you'd hear the phrase: 'Commie Bastards' repeatedly.
 
cuban smokes said:
will the investigation into the Russian connection with the Trump campaign aka KREMLINGATE be the undoing of the Trump presidency & bring Trump down?
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It's usually healthy to have fantasies unless they consume your everyday life.
 
Moderate Right said:
It's usually healthy to have fantasies unless they consume your everyday life.
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yes, fantasies that consume one's everyday life ............ that would likely be something called 'Whitewater' in which Ken Starr & 'the GOP influenced fantasy club' sought to bring down a presidency by spending over $50 million US tax payer dollars, yet all they could come up with was a lie about sex

rookies .........
 
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Winston said:
I think it's in plain sight. Russia wants Crimea-sanctions lifted. They influence election to give Trump the couple points he needed to win. In exchange Trump puts Rex Tillerson in as SoS. Flynn gets caught discussing sanctions with the Russian ambassador. They fire Flynn and finger him as the Russian mole. Trump knew about Flynn's conversation weeks before the public found out. A multi-agency investigation is ongoing. They're digging up dirt on Manafort, Stone, Page, and Flynn. So far, that's what we know. I got my popcorn.
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If the end game was getting their hands on Podesta's emails to use them to influence voters in the manner that they were used, they certainly wouldn't have needed the Russians to accomplish this. Podesta got caught in a phishing scheme that could have been pulled off by a savvy 10 year old.

I could see Trump ultimately being undone by grabbing someones ***** or something but not by this. The longer this has gone on, the more it is starting to remind me of "Wag the Dog".
 
The bigger issue is the deep state, the previous administration, and the left working to undermine a democratically elected president.


That should scare the **** out of you.
 
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