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What is your opinion on prostitution?

What is your stance on prostitution?

  • prostitution should be illegal

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • sex for money should be legal but no organized businesses

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • brothels, escort services, etc. should be legal

    Votes: 26 78.8%

  • other

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • not sure

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • Total voters
    33
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Masterhawk

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Currently, prostitution is illegal in every state (Louisiana even requires prostitutes and customers to register as sex offenders) except Nevada which lets its counties decide (Clark county, home to Las Vegas is not one of them)

Green means that brothels are permitted, yellow means that prostitution is permitted but there are no brothels
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I have no problem with saying prostitution should be legal but heavily, heavily regulated to curb trafficking.

The fact that the state, regardless of whether there's monetary compensation involved, makes consensual sex illegal just on that basis is nonsense.

Oh so if you want it to be legal, just make sure Jimmy films it with a video Camera.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I have no problem with saying prostitution should be legal but heavily, heavily regulated to curb trafficking.
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And the more heavily you regulate it the bigger the black market for it becomes and it not really trafficking you should be worried about. It's HIV, substance abuse, physical abuse, and mental health issues.

The fact that the state, regardless of whether there's monetary compensation involved, makes consensual sex illegal just on that basis is nonsense.
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That's just silly it's not completely consensual if there is money involved. There is a reason sex is separate from everything else when it comes to laws and regulations.

Oh so if you want it to be legal, just make sure Jimmy films it with a video Camera.
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It's only legal to produce porn in 2 states
 
Masterhawk said:
Currently, prostitution is illegal in every state (Louisiana even requires prostitutes and customers to register as sex offenders) except Nevada which lets its counties decide (Clark county, home to Las Vegas is not one of them)

Green means that brothels are permitted, yellow means that prostitution is permitted but there are no brothels
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I see we have common ground with iran.
 
Crovax said:
And the more heavily you regulate it the bigger the black market for it becomes and it not really trafficking you should be worried about. It's HIV, substance abuse, physical abuse, and mental health issues.



That's just silly it's not completely consensual if there is money involved. There is a reason sex is separate from everything else when it comes to laws and regulations.



It's only legal to produce porn in 2 states
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Why shouldn't a prostitute have regular health checks, if it makes the job legal and prevents harassment. That seems less risky than much of the free sex approach we presently have. From what I have read of other countries this reduces health problems.
 
joG said:
Why shouldn't a prostitute have regular health checks, if it makes the job legal and prevents harassment. That seems less risky than much of the free sex approach we presently have. From what I have read of other countries this reduces health problems.
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I don't think that simple regular health checks was what Jet was implying when he said "heavily, heavily regulated"
 
Crovax said:
I don't think that simple regular health checks was what Jet was implying when he said "heavily, heavily regulated"
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Now this is beginning to be interesting! ;)
 
My moral position on prostitution is that people who pay for sex are bad people, and people who choose to have sex for money are bad people.

My political position is that it is not the State's business to regulate sexual conduct between consenting adults, that the social ills of prostitution do not justify harming the people who participate in it, and that law enforcement efforts to control prostitution almost universally unjustly punish the victims of sex trafficking while allowing the customers and the traffickers to get away with rape. The latter, I suspect, is entirely intentional. Legal, organized sex work should be subject to no more stringent regulations than the selling of alcohol and tobacco, and "freelance" sex work should not be regulated at all.
 
Masterhawk said:
Currently, prostitution is illegal in every state (Louisiana even requires prostitutes and customers to register as sex offenders) except Nevada which lets its counties decide (Clark county, home to Las Vegas is not one of them)

Green means that brothels are permitted, yellow means that prostitution is permitted but there are no brothels
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minor correction, state law bans prostitution in Clark County, counties other than Clark may opt to allow prostitution.

I think it should be illegal, simply because while it's easy to say in theory "well sex between consenting adults is not a problem" and "well if you legalize it and regulate it then the problems with human trafficking go away" in practice that's not what happens. it creates a culture where prostitution is widely accepted and it's easier for human traffickers to ply their trade. you see human traffickers rely on desperate people wanting to live in a western country, in many cases these women are illegal immigrants who won't go to the police and will work for the traffickers because it is slightly better then where they left in their minds. you're not dealing in a market economy where prostitutes decide on full knowledge and consent to work as prostitutes. The illegality of the act makes enforcement action easier against traffickers.

The benefits of legalization rarely manifest, it's like the "Safe injection" site in Vancouver BC, supporters claimed it would reduce drug overdose deaths, in reality the trend on drug overdoses has been up and Vancouver is the North American leader in heroin overdoses, with a whopping 914 deaths for 2016.
 
I believe it should be legal, and limited to the involved parties. Brothels, pimps, or having the government stand in for either of those is immoral and exploitative.
 
I personally don't care. It doesn't matter to me if it's legal, so long as it is made as safe as possible.
 
government should be PRO business & prostitution is nothing but a business

I hear it all the time; government is PRO business but government is NO for prostitution

so, IMO government is BI-polar, thus government is inefficient & useless

OK class; today we learned something about government; they suck .......
 
TheGoverness said:
What? That makes no kind of sense whatsoever.
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If you ask for the right to sell your body for sex then you're not asking for the right to buy sex.
 
Scrabaholic said:
In Canada, it is legal to sell sex services, but illegal to purchase them. Dumb and dumber. It should be legal, period.
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It's not dumb. It's an intermediary stage where the balance of power is given 100% to the sex workers, in order to help those trafficked escape, and to give complete agency to those who want to do the work. The current law was crafted by sex workers and their activists.

If it's legal to purchase then that still permits pimps to operate as intermediaries because legalization would not eliminate their control of the market overnight. Traditionally, pimps create and approve of the work places, the kinds of clientele a sex worker can see, etc.

If a john is already committing an illegal act by default then he's far less likely to do something harmful to the sex worker, especially if that sex worker can report him without getting in trouble.
 
Masterhawk said:
Currently, prostitution is illegal in every state (Louisiana even requires prostitutes and customers to register as sex offenders) except Nevada which lets its counties decide (Clark county, home to Las Vegas is not one of them)

Green means that brothels are permitted, yellow means that prostitution is permitted but there are no brothels
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When it comes to abortion, I hear all the time and have said it myself, "It's her body. It's no one else's body and no one should be able to tell her what to do with it." Let the woman decide. I feel the same about prostitution. It's her body and if she wants to indulge, so be it. As long as she remains in control of her body. That is let he make some cash as long as she can say yes or no to the customer.

The problem with prostitution being illegal is usually the pimp decides and not the woman. Legalize it.
 
TheGoverness said:
What? That makes no kind of sense whatsoever.
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It's intended to minimize sex trafficking. There's an economic argument behind it.

It goes like this. When buying/selling are both illegal there is still a certain demand - "Johns" willing to buy sex (despite the risk of being caught and prosecuted) and there is still a certain amount of supply - women willing to sell sex (despite the risk of being caught and prosecuted). If the demand exceeds the supply, sex traffickers stand to make money by filling the gap with forced prostitution.

Now suppose prostitution is legalized, both buying and selling. We'd expect demand and supply to both rise since the risk of criminal prosecution goes away. But if the demand (men willing to buy) grows by a larger proportion than the supply (women willing to sell), the gap between the two grows larger. Which offers sex traffickers an even larger market to fill with forced prostitution.

This argument does see some empirical support.

In response some nations have adopted a policy of prohibiting buying but not selling in an attempt to keep the gap between demand and supply as narrow as possible to minimize trafficking.
 
Perotista said:
When it comes to abortion, I hear all the time and have said it myself, "It's her body. It's no one else's body and no one should be able to tell her what to do with it." Let the woman decide. I feel the same about prostitution. It's her body and if she wants to indulge, so be it. As long as she remains in control of her body. That is let he make some cash as long as she can say yes or no to the customer.

The problem with prostitution being illegal is usually the pimp decides and not the woman. Legalize it.
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legalizing prostitution does NOT protect women in the sex industry, that is a myth that is propagated by libertarians. It is theory not born out by real world experience. creating a visible and accepted prostitution market in fact leads to MORE human trafficking and more pimps, it makes enforcement against said harder.
 
Masterhawk said:
Currently, prostitution is illegal in every state (Louisiana even requires prostitutes and customers to register as sex offenders) except Nevada which lets its counties decide (Clark county, home to Las Vegas is not one of them)

Green means that brothels are permitted, yellow means that prostitution is permitted but there are no brothels
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It should be legal but regulated to ensure the health of the prostitute and and customer are protected and for the financial protection of the prostitute. Frequent checks for STDs, no unprotected sex by both the prostitute and customer,and frequent health inspections of the place of business regardless if that business is prostitute's private home, cat house or some other facility where the prostitute regularly works.There should also be wage/pay protections to ensure that the prostitute gets to keep the huge majority of her pay earned from her services so that she is not taken taken advantage of by a pimp,'employment' agency, brothel, cat house or some other employer.Those wage protections should also ban employers from nickle and diming the prostitutes.
 
It's none of the state's business what two or more sane, consenting adults do with each other...including sex for money.

It should be legalized period.

As for regulation? No. The industry can regulate themselves. If a 'John' is dumb enough to have sex with a woman/man for money who does not provide proof of health checks - then that is his problem (the dumbass). The state could make a law that says it is illegal to have sex (paid or otherwise) with someone if you have __________ diseases without notifying the other person before sexual relations begins (assuming it does not already).

But once you allow for regulation, there is virtually no limit to how far the government can go and what it can charge sex workers for a 'license'. The requirements could become hundreds/thousands of dollars per year. This will lead to LOTS of sex workers forgoing the cost and just working 'underground'. Or, they could forge the 'licenses'. And on and on.

No. Consensual sex between sane adults is NONE OF THE STATE'S BUSINESS.

Period.
 
Trafficking, i.e. forced prostitution, should be illegal. But if a person willingly wants to sell the body for money, then have at. I also have no problem with one buying/leasing a buliding, hire workers on commission, salary or wages, and promote the business, under normal rules of business. So no abuse, physical or otherwise.
 
Scrabaholic said:
In Canada, it is legal to sell sex services, but illegal to purchase them. Dumb and dumber. It should be legal, period.
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TheGoverness said:
What? That makes no kind of sense whatsoever.
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actually it does make some sense

if a girl is victimized by a john at least she is less afraid to report it as her part in it is not against the law
 
Northern Light said:
It's not dumb. It's an intermediary stage where the balance of power is given 100% to the sex workers, in order to help those trafficked escape, and to give complete agency to those who want to do the work. The current law was crafted by sex workers and their activists.

If it's legal to purchase then that still permits pimps to operate as intermediaries because legalization would not eliminate their control of the market overnight. Traditionally, pimps create and approve of the work places, the kinds of clientele a sex worker can see, etc.

If a john is already committing an illegal act by default then he's far less likely to do something harmful to the sex worker, especially if that sex worker can report him without getting in trouble.
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exactly
 
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