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Does Jesus talk to you?

Does Jesus talk to you?

  • Yes, I hear the voice of god.

    Votes: 4 8.3%
  • Yes, in the form of signs, dreams, etc., but no voices.

    Votes: 4 8.3%
  • Maybe, I'm not sure.

    Votes: 3 6.3%
  • No, I've never experienced this.

    Votes: 29 60.4%
  • Other (Please Explain).

    Votes: 8 16.7%

  • Total voters
    48
I welcome the disdain you have towards us atheists. Sorry, smoking is for losers.

You obviously missed the tongue in cheek nature of my request for you to have a cigarette. ;)
 
Last a heard the only people who claim to have full explanation of how the universe was made and the purpose behind it are the believers.

You're not serious...
 
A saddening account of that little girl.

She will grow up in ignorance and self-delusion, figuring that "Jesus" exists. She will become asocial, separated from other kids, and probably become psychotic when she's older.

These kind of people are entitled to governement support, in my opinion. The kids should be taken away from them and grow up in a healthy, atheist environnement where schooling is based on philosophy and science rather than random 'wisdom' written four thousand years ago, when people could barely think.





Wow you are quite the little facsist aren't ya..... :2wave:



Maybe we can strap the little girl into a chair hold her eyelids open and put little dropplets in her eyes and make her watch athiest propaganda films.


That would be wonderful! :shock::roll:
 
Maybe we can strap the little girl into a chair hold her eyelids open and put little dropplets in her eyes and make her watch athiest propaganda films.

Do we have atheist propaganda films? Maybe Jesus Camp, but I don't see that as an atheist propaganda film, it's more like a documentary of the extreme evagelion movement.
 
No, Jesus Christ does not talk to me. Now if only my brother in law Jesus would stop talking to me....... :mrgreen:
 
Jesus doesn't talk to me- atheists recieve the messages of his evil twin, Reverse Jesus. He turns water into wine, crucifies Roman armies, and dares you to stone prostitutes.
 
Damn you Bizzaro-Jesus!
 
You're not serious...

Well didnt god create the universe and humans purpose on earth is to follow his rules so we can go to heaven.
 
Well didnt god create the universe and humans purpose on earth is to follow his rules so we can go to heaven.

I think your argument isn't well thought out. IF you are saying that only Christians state they know how the world was created and what they are here for you obviously haven't been reading evolutionists periodicals.
 
You obviously missed the tongue in cheek nature of my request for you to have a cigarette. ;)

Guess so. Personally, I don't get why you got so bothered by my post. I made a statement that was not directed at any one poster; however, you directed your disdain towards me directly. I just don't get it.
 
I think your argument isn't well thought out. IF you are saying that only Christians state they know how the world was created and what they are here for you obviously haven't been reading evolutionists periodicals.

The problem is, science has this little thing called EVIDENCE and religion has... well, religion has absolutely nothing but blind faith and wishful thinking.
 
The problem is, science has this little thing called EVIDENCE and religion has... well, religion has absolutely nothing but blind faith and wishful thinking.

What I'm disagreeing with is the original response that stated "Last (I) heard the only people who claim to have full explanation of how the universe was made and the purpose behind it are the believers." From my pov both sides of the debate have that position. I know there is much evidence supporting evolution, and I don't discount that there is evidence, albeit that too is not proved beyond the suppositions of the scientific community and its supporters that believe their explanations. That too takes faith and perhaps a little wishful thinking also.
 
What I'm disagreeing with is the original response that stated "Last (I) heard the only people who claim to have full explanation of how the universe was made and the purpose behind it are the believers." From my pov both sides of the debate have that position. I know there is much evidence supporting evolution, and I don't discount that there is evidence, albeit that too is not proved beyond the suppositions of the scientific community and its supporters that believe their explanations. That too takes faith and perhaps a little wishful thinking also.

It takes nothing of the kind. One doesn't have to have any faith to accept evolution as the best supported idea of how life on this planet came to be the way it is. None whatsoever.

Evolution doesn't address purpose, evolution addresses method. If you're looking for "why", try philosophy, not science.
 
By all means, enjoy that belief. I truly believe atheists have a mental defect that drives them to compulsively prove their perception of their own mental superiority but you didn't see me express that view as an indictment of atheists in this forum.

Does that "belief" keep you warm at night?

I think most athiests are that way because they detest the hypocrisy of the religious people in their lives. Most X-tians don't live like X. They see this at an early age and reject the idea altogether. Don't blame athiests, blame Christians because they suck at converting people...I mean...isn't that their job?

The boss says you're fired.
 
It takes nothing of the kind. One doesn't have to have any faith to accept evolution as the best supported idea of how life on this planet came to be the way it is. None whatsoever.

Evolution doesn't address purpose, evolution addresses method. If you're looking for "why", try philosophy, not science.

Not to mention it wasn't Darwin's theory of evolution, but his theory of adaptation.

Darwin was a devout Christian, for all of you who don't know.
 
Yes. Jesus does talk to me. Specially when I want to buy a burrito.

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Directly up the street from me:

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Tastes like salvation!
 
It takes nothing of the kind. One doesn't have to have any faith to accept evolution as the best supported idea of how life on this planet came to be the way it is. None whatsoever.

Evolution doesn't address purpose, evolution addresses method. If you're looking for "why", try philosophy, not science.

I think we're really debating semantics here...the semantics of what I mean by "faith". Let me try to explain...

I am not a scientist. To the best of my knowledge, and correct me if I am wrong, evolution is still not proved (albeit the existing evidence weighs heavily in its favor) and is yet, to this day, identified as a theory. And albeit I accept the theories surrounding evolution my acceptance of this theory is based on "faith" that what the scientific community is telling me is true. That their interpretations, based on the existing evidence and the best theoretical ideas of why evolution happens, is correct. And as time goes by this theory also evolves within the scientific community as new evidence, data, technology to interpret evidence and the "why-fors" are found, identified, explored and posited. Does that make sense? That's what I mean by both the religious and evolutionists have "faith" in their set of beliefs.
 
Does that "belief" keep you warm at night?

I think most athiests are that way because they detest the hypocrisy of the religious people in their lives. Most X-tians don't live like X. They see this at an early age and reject the idea altogether. Don't blame athiests, blame Christians because they suck at converting people...I mean...isn't that their job?

The boss says you're fired.

You're in no position to tell anyone what "the boss" says. Now run along and seek affirmation from your buddies; you haven't impressed me in the least.
 
Does that "belief" keep you warm at night?

I think most athiests are that way because they detest the hypocrisy of the religious people in their lives. Most X-tians don't live like X. They see this at an early age and reject the idea altogether. Don't blame athiests, blame Christians because they suck at converting people...I mean...isn't that their job?

The boss says you're fired.

You make a strong point albeit I am certain there is plenty of blame to go around for both Christians and Athiests. But with that said...imo it is always much easier to "talk the talk" then to "walk the walk". Too much of Christianity today is legalism and condemnation without any offering of God's Grace. I also believe the Christian at large would much better serve their communities if they actually lowered their defenses, supped with the tax collectors and prostitutes, rather then hide away, safe and sound from the world of sinners around them, within the four walls of their church.
 
You make a strong point albeit I am certain there is plenty of blame to go around for both Christians and Athiests. But with that said...imo it is always much easier to "talk the talk" then to "walk the walk". Too much of Christianity today is legalism and condemnation without any offering of God's Grace. I also believe the Christian at large would much better serve their communities if they actually lowered their defenses, supped with the tax collectors and prostitutes, rather then hide away, safe and sound from the world of sinners around them, within the four walls of their church.

Most Christians I know aren't going to subject themselves to the barrage of insults and the automatic assumption that they are daft which comes from most atheists. It's kind of hard to lower defenses when you are being called an idiot, childish in your beliefs, or a hypocrite by someone who doesn't even know you.

I don't tolerate atheists on any level at all anymore. I used to defend them but now I see them being just as bad, if not worse, than the most abusive of Christians.
 
Most Christians I know aren't going to subject themselves to the barrage of insults and the automatic assumption that they are daft which comes from most atheists. It's kind of hard to lower defenses when you are being called an idiot, childish in your beliefs, or a hypocrite by someone who doesn't even know you.

I don't tolerate atheists on any level at all anymore. I used to defend them but now I see them being just as bad, if not worse, than the most abusive of Christians.

I understand but I ask you where's the Grace in your description of "Most Christians" and yourself? And with all due respect to you I don't agree with "Most Christians" anyway but the kind of conduct you are describing only amplifies what I wrote.
 
I understand but I ask you where's the Grace in your description of "Most Christians" and yourself? And with all due respect to you I don't agree with "Most Christians" anyway but the kind of conduct you are describing only amplifies what I wrote.

I am not what one would consider a devout Christian. I attend Mass twice a year at most.

But I don't think there is any lack of grace when a Christian removes his or herself from a verbally abusive situation where atheists are concerned. You are talking about a group of people who have rejected faith out of some misguided notion that it makes them smarter than everyone else. And then, to constantly reaffirm this notion, they consistently attack and criticize, not the beliefs themselves, but the people who hold to faith.

I, personally, am under no directive to proselytize to nonbelievers; I couldn't care less if they make it to heaven or if they spend their eternities in the bowels of tormented hell choking on brimstone. As far as I am concerned, people have a right to their beliefs and to express their beliefs peacefully and without fear of reprisal. The reason I am intolerant of atheists is because I see the intolerance they show to Christians specifically and, being a gay man, I am acutely aware of the way this intolerance builds and becomes ingrained in our culture. Forgive me but I don't much like seeing anyone treated or spoken of the way gays were for the longest time.
 
I, personally, am under no directive to proselytize to nonbelievers; I couldn't care less if they make it to heaven or if they spend their eternities in the bowels of tormented hell choking on brimstone.

:shock: Have you no concern for my soul? :rofl
 
:shock: Have you no concern for my soul? :rofl

I have concern for you, but you have respectfully and adamantly made your convictions known. I also don't believe atheism is a one-way ticket to Hell. But if I am wrong and it so happens that it is, I can safely say that you number among those I can count on one hand that would be a source of grief for me over the issue.
 
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