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Is There Something to Putin Having Blackmail Material on Trump?

Could Russia (Putin) have personally compromising information on Donald Trump?

  • Definately

    Votes: 8 23.5%

  • Definitely not

    Votes: 7 20.6%

  • Don't know

    Votes: 19 55.9%
  • Total voters
    34
Kal'Stang said:
Did you ever think that maybe if we improved relations with Russia that we'd be able to convince them to leave Crimea?

As for Russia interfering with with our election. 1: Despite some of the claims out there they did nothing to hack into our voting system. 2: That 35 page report from our intelligence agencies did not prove that Russia had a hand in the hacks of the DNC's email system. It made a lot of innuendo and assumptions. That was it. But I am going to say this. Even IF they did hack into those emails and release them to wikileaks. I don't care. Heck, they did us a favor if it is true.They let us know what Hillary and the DNC was truly like. As I've said time and again here on these forums and elsewhere. If Hillary and the DNC had acted honorably to begin with there never would have been anything damaging to them to hack in first place. And its not like the US hasn't tried to interfere in other countries elections also. Karma can be a true bitch after all. Hell, we've even provided material support to topple other governments. AND we've toppled other governments directly.



Two problems with this. Obama began attempting to improve our relationship with Cuba before Fidel Castro died. Second Raul Castro (current Cuban President) is just like his brother, Fidel Castro. So no big change there. :shrug:
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Well, you seem to think that everything that's transpired with Trump's foreign relationships has been wonderful. For all our sakes, I hope you're right :peace
 
lurchadams said:
Well, you seem to think that everything that's transpired with Trump's foreign relationships has been wonderful. For all our sakes, I hope you're right :peace
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Don't know if its been wonderful. But from what I have seen so far...it hasn't been near as horrible as many have portrayed it to be.
 
lurchadams said:
Trump is damaging relationships with several of our allies including Mexico, Germany and Australia. Several politicians are now scrambling to undo some of the damage. On the other hand, Trump has done nothing but praise Putin, leader of one of our enemies and through back channels is allegedly easing some of the sanctions imposed by Obama for Russia interfering in the presidential election.

Could it be that the unconfirmed reports are true that Russia has compromising information on Trump?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...d296534b31e_story.html?utm_term=.5b6f7f6e7f9d
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Not sure, but it sure is worth looking into. The Kremlin is NOT our friend. Never has been and probably never will be.
 
lurchadams said:
Trump is damaging relationships with several of our allies including Mexico, Germany and Australia. Several politicians are now scrambling to undo some of the damage. On the other hand, Trump has done nothing but praise Putin, leader of one of our enemies and through back channels is allegedly easing some of the sanctions imposed by Obama for Russia interfering in the presidential election.

Could it be that the unconfirmed reports are true that Russia has compromising information on Trump?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...d296534b31e_story.html?utm_term=.5b6f7f6e7f9d
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I chose "Don't know", but I really doubt it.

In any case, Trump's actions with those countries you mentioned have nothing to do with Russia, but everything to do with Trump's stated positions.

1. Mexico. It's the wall...and money...not Russia.

2. Germany. It's NATO and, to a lesser extent, the EU and their refugee issues. Also their insistence on globalization. Not Russia.

3. Australia. It's a crappy deal that Obama made with them. Not Russia.
 
The answer at this point is we don't know. We would have the truth or something close to it if Trump would release his taxes and financials. He has lied, and stalled, and shucked and jived and lied and stalled and lied but Trump doesn't want us to know.

What we do know is that Trump's became so deep in debt that he had to borrow 30 million from the family trust to remain solvent. Later in debt up to his arse again no American entity would lend money to Trump. His business practices and his debt made him too great a risk. No one would touch him. Then came the Russian oligarchs with buckets of money they stole from the Russian people. Soon Trump was flush with cash. We know that much. Why in the world would monied Russians criminals want to bail out Trump? How much is Trump into the Russians for? What did Russian thugs want from Trump? Is anyone - anyone - under the impression that any of this would have happened without Putin's knowledge and permission?

Then there is Trump and the Chinese. No doubt Russia has information on that as well.

Trump has refused to put his enterprise in a blind trust, increasing the changes of him being blackmailed in the future. Trump refuses to do that.
 
lurchadams said:
Sure, no problem:

1. Trump backing the Mexican president into a corner and committing him to paying for the useless wall. The Mexican president then canceled his meeting with Trump.

2. Merkel having to warn Trump about the danger of the Muslim Ban.

3. Trump breaking the agreement to accept refugees being held in Australia and then allegedly abruptly ending his phone call (hanging up on the Australian prime minister).

In the meantime, Putin can do no wrong. It just seems really bizarre.
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Just one small little problem 1,2 and 3 are completely false! next.....
 
Risky Thicket said:
The answer at this point is we don't know. We would have the truth or something close to it if Trump would release his taxes and financials. He has lied, and stalled, and shucked and jived and lied and stalled and lied but Trump doesn't want us to know.

What we do know is that Trump's became so deep in debt that he had to borrow 30 million from the family trust to remain solvent. Later in debt up to his arse again no American entity would lend money to Trump. His business practices and his debt made him too great a risk. No one would touch him. Then came the Russian oligarchs with buckets of money they stole from the Russian people. Soon Trump was flush with cash. We know that much. Why in the world would monied Russians criminals want to bail out Trump? How much is Trump into the Russians for? What did Russian thugs want from Trump? Is anyone - anyone - under the impression that any of this would have happened without Putin's knowledge and permission?

Then there is Trump and the Chinese. No doubt Russia has information on that as well.

Trump has refused to put his enterprise in a blind trust, increasing the changes of him being blackmailed in the future. Trump refuses to do that.
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How his supporters can overlook his refusal to release his taxes and refusal to divest himself of his businesses is beyond my understanding. His supporters won't hesitate to accuse HRC of criminal wrongdoings (which have been investigated exhaustively) but Trump seems to get a pass.
 
lurchadams said:
Trump is damaging relationships with several of our allies including Mexico, Germany and Australia. Several politicians are now scrambling to undo some of the damage. On the other hand, Trump has done nothing but praise Putin, leader of one of our enemies and through back channels is allegedly easing some of the sanctions imposed by Obama for Russia interfering in the presidential election.

Could it be that the unconfirmed reports are true that Russia has compromising information on Trump?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...d296534b31e_story.html?utm_term=.5b6f7f6e7f9d
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Pissgate regurgitated. No. It's stupid that this is even being rehashed.

Aleksej Gubarev, of Russia's Webzilla, says hacking charges false | McClatchy DC
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...is-fake-news-meant-to-malign-mr-trump/512762/
UPDATE 1-Former MI6 Spy Known to U.S. Agencies Is Author of Reports on Trump in Russia
Business leader reportedly behind some salacious claims in Trump dossier | Fox News
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/t...jects-dossier-alleged-russia-dealings-n705586
 
 
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coldjoint said:
Obama's leading from behind damaged the trust our allies had in us more than anything Trump has done.
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Meaningless, empty words. You're just making crap up because you like how the words sound.
 
Grand Mal said:
Meaningless, empty words. You're just making crap up because you like how the words sound.
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"Leading from behind" was a popular right-wing catch-phrase. Similar to "Death panels" and "Born in Kenya". Trump spent five years claiming Obama was born in Kenya and claimed falsely that "he had investigators in Hawaii and you would not believe what they've discovered". How anyone could support a clown who does something like that over HRC proves that hatred of HRC and anything not republican is very, very strong.
 
lurchadams said:
So, I'm guessing your vote is "definitely not"? :)
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Uhyep. It is fabricated paid for smear material, against Trump, that wasn't used because the lack of credibility. Then it was pedaled off to several media outlets that didn't find it valid until CNN got it from Buzzfeed. CNN published only the parts they thought would make an article look credible. It caused a furor in the media and several outlets piggybacked on it. The day after CNN published their spin article Buzzfeed released the report in it's entirety and people were able to read the unbelievably wild allegations and started to check the information. It also started a war between Buzzfeed and CNN. CNN was blindsided by the Buzzfeed release and scrutinized for publishing the article and tried to blame it on Buzzfeed. The report was fabricated by a former MI6 agent. Some sources claim that Jeb Bush financed the research but that hasn't been proven. Jeb Bush denies it. Most of the material was debunked. Enough that the veracity of the whole report is at best, suspicious.
 
lurchadams said:
"Leading from behind" was a popular right-wing catch-phrase. Similar to "Death panels" and "Born in Kenya". Trump spent five years claiming Obama was born in Kenya and claimed falsely that "he had investigators in Hawaii and you would not believe what they've discovered". How anyone could support a clown who does something like that over HRC proves that hatred of HRC and anything not republican is very, very strong.
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I doubt that guy even thought about the meaning of the term. It's derogatory, that's all he knows, and the context doesn't matter.
 
Is There Something to Putin Having Blackmail Material on Trump?
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the pee pee video thing is just too sensational of a story not to be dismissed as ridiculous. could be something a lot simpler, like coordination with Russia concerning the hacking and release of negative information during the campaign. that would be worse than Watergate, and would protect a quid pro quo relationship pretty effectively. all speculation, though. until someone produces some kind of evidence, this is mostly CT.
 
Helix said:
the pee pee video thing is just too sensational of a story not to be dismissed as ridiculous. could be something a lot simpler, like coordination with Russia concerning the hacking and release of negative information during the campaign. that would be worse than Watergate, and would protect a quid pro quo relationship pretty effectively. all speculation, though. until someone produces some kind of evidence, this is mostly CT.
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The pee video was just the most bizarre claim. There was other stuff in the unverified report related to Trump's alleged, non kosher financial arrangements.
 
lurchadams said:
The pee video was just the most bizarre claim. There was other stuff in the unverified report related to Trump's alleged, non kosher financial arrangements.
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yep, we know nothing about his business dealings there or if there even are any, so that's another possibility.

like i said, it's CT until someone produces evidence. something seems fishy, but that's not enough.
 
joG said:
Knowing Russian intelligence and the behavior of the average rich? I'd say it's less possible than probable. Don't you think?

;)
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If they have **** on Trump, then they have **** on Hillary, Obama, and many others. I wonder when the first blackmail attempt will occur.
 
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American said:
If they have **** on Trump, then they have **** on Hillary, Obama, and many others. I wonder when the first blackmail attempt will occur.
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It would be Trump. HRC and Obama no longer have influence over foreign policy. It's unlikely Trump will appoint either of them to any type of post where they would.
 
lurchadams said:
It would be Trump. HRC and Obama no longer have influence over foreign policy. It's unlikely Trump will appoint either of them to any type of post where they would.
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I doubt they would have just gotten that data. Probably had it for years. ;)
 
American said:
I doubt they would have just gotten that data. Probably had it for years. ;)
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If Russia had blackmail material on Obama or HRC then why would Obama impose sanctions, and why would Russia support Trump over HRC? Doesn't make any sense.
 
lurchadams said:
Trump is damaging relationships with several of our allies including Mexico, Germany and Australia. Several politicians are now scrambling to undo some of the damage. On the other hand, Trump has done nothing but praise Putin, leader of one of our enemies and through back channels is allegedly easing some of the sanctions imposed by Obama for Russia interfering in the presidential election.

Could it be that the unconfirmed reports are true that Russia has compromising information on Trump?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...d296534b31e_story.html?utm_term=.5b6f7f6e7f9d
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No. Considering the level of fake news being created by the left's MSM partners, these "rumors" are little more than dog whistles hoping to get the pack barking.

It's surprising how willing so many are to prove they belong to that target audience.
 
My answer: The question is irrelevant, as Trump would not roll with Blackmail.
 
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