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January 21 Protests - Do They Make A Difference?

Will today's Protest Marches Make a Difference?

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Dragonfly said:
Will today's rather large protests across the country make any true difference regarding what Trump may or may not do in the coming days/months/years?

IYHO do such marches accomplish anything?
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While the turnout is huge there isn't any message.

I've just got to ask, if Trump came on TV tonight and said "I see you marching and I hear your voices. What can I do to win you over?" he wouldn't get an answer or, if he did, it would be "resign ad go home" which means this isn't about rights or anything other than being anti-Trump.
 
Henrin said:
I see. So what does a brave person go into a fight with?
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It's not what they go into a fight with, it's who they fight despite having nothing. Knowing they could never win, they do it still. Because it's what they think is right.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
AS a person raised in the south, I have always considered the court decision making secession unconstitutional a bad decision. As an American Citizen looking back with hindsight, if I had lived during the Civil War I would have joined the Union Army. AS I believe that slavery should not be tolerated, in this country or foreign countries. So I see it like this, the south seceded legally, but the US had an imperative to end slavery for the sake of ending slavery. And I think we still do, no matter where it is. The south formed it's own country, and the US conquered that country and reacquired it's lands and people. And it was the right thing to do.
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Fair enough. I actually agree with you that Texas v. White was a bad decision. As for who I would join, well, I would have to say I would fight for neither. The northern case for keeping the south in the union was bogus and I find Lincoln to be an intolerable asshole that had no regard for the constitution. At the same time, I find the southern case for secession to be suspect and not something I can get behind.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
Easy to be brave when your wearing riot gear, using advanced weaponry, and have unlimited resources backing you up...

Cowards go to war when they are sure it won't be them dying.
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You referring to past democratic presidents...right.

Cowards are people who won't serve their country when they are needed.
 
joG said:
I believe I had mentioned it. But yes, one of the things this signals is that a large number of people do not accept the legitimacy of the democratic process. But that is only one of a number of ways that the demonstrators are harming the country. I'm following the political reporting in Europe and it is scary.
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I would say the major factor are the hard divisions within the US Political system.
We saw that in the Dems with Bernie's run.
The public sees a report of major cuts to many Depts. Should cuts be made, yes, in all perhaps not as much as mentioned.

Trump team prepares dramatic cuts | TheHill

The Heritage blueprint used as a basis for Trump’s proposed cuts calls for eliminating several programs that conservatives label corporate welfare programs: the Minority Business Development Agency, the Economic Development Administration, the International Trade Administration and the Manufacturing Extension Partnership. The total savings from cutting these four programs would amount to nearly $900 million in 2017.

At the Department of Justice, the blueprint calls for eliminating the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services, Violence Against Women Grants and the Legal Services Corporation and for reducing funding for its Civil Rights and its Environment and Natural Resources divisions.

Conservatives allied with fiscal hawks such as Pence, Paul and the Heritage Foundation say the time is long past due to get serious about cutting the federal deficit.
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And many of these people want to also gut - privatize SS, gut Medicare-Medicaid as well
While cutting taxes for the rich.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
Easy to be brave when your wearing riot gear, using advanced weaponry, and have unlimited resources backing you up...

Cowards go to war when they are sure it won't be them dying.
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Have you served, if not why?
 
ThoughtEx. said:
It's not what they go into a fight with, it's who they fight despite having nothing. Knowing they could never win, they do it still. Because it's what they think is right.
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Ok, I guess I can agree with that.
 
I sincerely hope so, but doubt it. If the march became a worldwide movement of sheer numbers (it would need to surpass the Iraq War protests and Arab Spring combined, by my calculations) it would certainly frighten the administration into humility. But, again, skyscraper-tall order you have there.
 
antiquity said:
You referring to past democratic presidents...right.

Cowards are people who won't serve their country when they are needed.
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Such as the current coward we have as president and his FIVE deferments.

trumpcoward who bragged that his personal Vietnam was sleeping around and not getting STDs .
 
antiquity said:
You referring to past democratic presidents...right.

Cowards are people who won't serve their country when they are needed.
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That's pretty bogus. There are plenty of reasons people don't join the military. I didn't serve because to the most part I didn't want to give up my life to some pointless war. As it turns out just a year later we were involved in Iraq, which as you should be aware was a pointless war. I think I made the right choice. :shrug:
 
JANFU said:
Have you served, if not why?
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I enlisted but was deemed ineligible and turned down. AS a child I was abused heavily, and suffer from ptsd as well as a few other things because of it. They couldn't take me, I did however enjoy 4 years of ROTC in college.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
But hey, you sure don't mind sitting at home in your "safe space" judging those that care enough to risk life and freedom to make themselves heard.
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Are you kidding me a protester is risking life and freedom to make themselves heard. How about our men and woman on the front lines of battle risking their lives to secure those freedoms for your non-risk taking protester.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
Oh yeah my anger and hatred, lol. It's not me posting in dozens of threads insulting and bashing protesters exercising their rights...
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I have no problem with peaceful protest. But I do have a problem with protester who burn, loot, curse at (hate speech?) and just destroy property. protesters who disrupt others who want to enter their peaceful rallies or yesterday's inaugural. I just don't see those on the right doing any of that.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
I enlisted but was deemed ineligible and turned down. AS a child I was abused heavily, and suffer from ptsd as well as a few other things because of it. They couldn't take me, I did however enjoy 4 years of ROTC in college.
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My apologies, posted to the wrong member.
I retract my statement and again apologize.
I will also post to the appropriate member.
 
NIMBY said:
Such as the current coward we have as president and his FIVE deferments.

trumpcoward who bragged that his personal Vietnam was sleeping around and not getting STDs .
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I don't think avoiding a war that the government has no business in makes you a coward. Giving up your life for a cause you don't believe in isn't noble, it's stupid.
 
antiquity said:
You referring to past democratic presidents...right.

Cowards are people who won't serve their country when they are needed.
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Have you served, if not why?
 
I voted yes because I have seen protest work.

Unfortunately this is not a protest by whining over losing.
There is a big difference.
In order for a protest to accomplish something you need a specific thing you want accomplished.
Example.
I do not want the ACA dismantled until I have a document I can read stating what you will do that is better or will improve the current system we have. This was my primary objection to Obama doing the exact same thing. We have to pass it before we know what we are getting. This is beyond stupid and ridiculous no matter which clown is proposing such nonsense.
 
JANFU said:
So they should lose their Constitutional Rights?
Odd how Cons are all for protecting the Constitution and their rights, excepting when others they disagree with exercise those self same rights
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Nope, they have the right to assemble. However, actions have consequences and if those assemblies piss people off, that could affect how people vote in coming elections. Welcome to reality.
 
Cephus said:
And that's fine, they can assemble peacefully, assuming that they're not out breaking windows or burning cars as a lot of liberal demonstrations seem to do lately. The right to assemble doesn't mean anyone has to think those assemblies are useful or valuable though.
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As is your right, and as is theirs to assemble,demonstrate and speak freely.
 
Lutherf said:
What I'm hearing is that most of these people are(were) Bernie supporters.
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It would be nice if you GOPosters would provide links for what you're hearing in trying to further divide Bernie and Hillary DEMs.

Not to mention if you're trying to cast Bernie's supporters in with the OWS crowd .
 
JANFU said:
As is your right, and as is theirs to assemble,demonstrate and speak freely.
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Indeed. But the question of the thread is, will they make any difference? They're not going to get Trump out of office, they're just going to make these liberal idiots look like the losers that they are.
 
Cephus said:
Nope, they have the right to assemble. However, actions have consequences and if those assemblies piss people off, that could affect how people vote in coming elections. Welcome to reality.
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After all the unforced errors and cirruption coming from the GOP federal triumvirate, you should be concerned with your own upcoming 2018 elections, especially with NO REPLACE .
 
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