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In hindsight, was Ford's Nixon pardon a good thing or a bad thing?

In hindsight, was Ford's Nixon pardon a good thing or a bad thing?

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radcen said:
My in-laws live near Grand Rapids and we go through there often. I'd like to visit the museum someday.
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You can get through it in 2 hours more or less. I hope you get to see it. There is a great restaurant about a mile from there called SAN CHEZ - its a tapas bistro and I think they have the best breakfast in town.
 
Probably a good thing. The country needed to heal. It didn't hurt anyone.

I'm tired of vendettas and people losing their marbles over things like this. We have old ladies being murdered for their social security checks, starving kids, animals being abused and killed in shelters, drunk drivers killing innocent people, and no cure for cancer. Who the **** cares about these political vendettas?
 
radcen said:
In hindsight, was Ford's Nixon pardon a good thing or a bad thing?

The question applies to both short-term effects and long-term-effects. I'm paraphrasing, but Ford (and many others) always insisted the country need to just move on, while others decried a lack of justice.

We've had 40-ish years to see the effects, if any, so we should have a pretty good idea by now. What say you?

Please note that this thread is not about the effects on Ford, and it probably costing him re-election. This thread is about the effects on the country and society as a whole.
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All told, it was good. Yes I do believe that politicians must be monitored and controlled rigorously. They must also be punished much more reliably than they are for misconduct. In that respect it was a bad precedent. But compared to teddy Kennedy he was outcast afterwards and lived in shame in clear view of everyone as an example. For the times that were quite different to today, it was rule of law.
Letting President Clinton off so lightly was much worse.
 
Moderate Right said:
Let me get this straight then. The left is upset with Russia for hacking and releasing those hacks to influence the election but Hillary has done nothing. OK. Got it.
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Well, this isn't a bash Hillary thread, so that settles that.
 
Phys251 said:
So Nixon did nothing wrong?
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Doesn't matter. Nixon did nothing pardonable. In addition, the pardon also excused all other acts of wrongdoing during his tenure as presidency.
No one should be pardoned for crimes not yet known.
 
American said:
Hyperbole much?
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Not hyperbole. Nixon was paranoid about what insiders might be saying about him, so he conspired. The whole thing sprung from the Elsberg's Pentagon Papers.
 
jet57 said:
She didn't do anything and nobody will prosecute her.
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My opinion is she has and an independent investigation of the Clinton Foundation would lay that wide open, and include Bill and many others. That said we should return to the OP
 
JANFU said:
My opinion is she has and an independent investigation of the Clinton Foundation would lay that wide open, and include Bill and many others. That said we should return to the OP
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That said, Trump is in for a big surprise then isn't he. His university stole money form thousands of people.
 
jet57 said:
That said, Trump is in for a big surprise then isn't he. His university stole money form thousands of people.
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Shall we return to the OP??
 
JANFU said:
Shall we return to the OP??
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Should we just accept that no one was going to prosecute Hillary anyway, making anything further moot?

Yes, we should
 
radcen said:
In hindsight, was Ford's Nixon pardon a good thing or a bad thing?

The question applies to both short-term effects and long-term-effects. I'm paraphrasing, but Ford (and many others) always insisted the country need to just move on, while others decried a lack of justice.

We've had 40-ish years to see the effects, if any, so we should have a pretty good idea by now. What say you?

Please note that this thread is not about the effects on Ford, and it probably costing him re-election. This thread is about the effects on the country and society as a whole.
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Ford ****ed up by pardoning Nixon. It helped solidified the view that it is okay for someone powerful to get away with ****.
 
radcen said:
In hindsight, was Ford's Nixon pardon a good thing or a bad thing?

The question applies to both short-term effects and long-term-effects. I'm paraphrasing, but Ford (and many others) always insisted the country need to just move on, while others decried a lack of justice.

We've had 40-ish years to see the effects, if any, so we should have a pretty good idea by now. What say you?

Please note that this thread is not about the effects on Ford, and it probably costing him re-election. This thread is about the effects on the country and society as a whole.
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I'm not sure if it has had much impact. I do think it is wrong to pardon him. What he did was the kind of wrong we do not have words for and to pardon him is a bit like saying; ok, don't do it again, but never mind now. At the same time it also sends the message and re-enforces the feeling many people have that they protect each other in Washington and that they can get away with everything. And this is not the message you want to send to the people in my opinion.


Joey
 
I personally believe those that make and enforce our laws should held to the highest level of accountability. Pardons shpuld only be issued if a person was convicted of a law that was later repealled because it was deemed unjust or if the sentence was excessivily cruel.

Nixon should of served his sentence just like anyone else that was found guilty of his crime

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