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Should states where marijuana is legal increase weed control?

Should weed states increase control to decrease the black market?

  • yes

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • no

    Votes: 16 84.2%
  • not sure

    Votes: 1 5.3%

  • Total voters
    19

Masterhawk

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I'm not suggesting that the federal government force these regulations. I support recreational marijuana but I also support common sense regulations.

1. restrict weed growing to people who have a medical card and live a certain distance from the nearest dispensary. They may grow up to 10 plants. Plants will be tracked to ensure compliance

2. place edibles in child proof containing

3. place cameras in medical dispensaries to ensure that they check for medical cards

4. educate underage users of weed

5. have tsa and border security now check for weed leaving the state
 
I'm not suggesting that the federal government force these regulations. I support recreational marijuana but I also support common sense regulations.

1. restrict weed growing to people who have a medical card and live a certain distance from the nearest dispensary. They may grow up to 10 plants. Plants will be tracked to ensure compliance

2. place edibles in child proof containing

3. place cameras in medical dispensaries to ensure that they check for medical cards

4. educate underage users of weed

5. have tsa and border security now check for weed leaving the state

If you support recreational use, why do you want that level of regulation?
For one thing, laws don't prevent anything. You say, 'restrict weed growing...' but you can't. Laws won't restrict it. All they'll do is make more criminals.
 
Why don't we start restricting the home growing of tobacco, carrots, potatoes and celery as well? Why on earth should we care if free individuals grow a legal plant themselves? Let's try something out of the "Libertarian" playbook and give liberty a chance. It never should've been illegal in the first place.
 
I'm not suggesting that the federal government force these regulations. I support recreational marijuana but I also support common sense regulations.

1. restrict weed growing to people who have a medical card and live a certain distance from the nearest dispensary. They may grow up to 10 plants. Plants will be tracked to ensure compliance

2. place edibles in child proof containing

3. place cameras in medical dispensaries to ensure that they check for medical cards

4. educate underage users of weed

5. have tsa and border security now check for weed leaving the state

Why would you want to put more control than in other narcotics like alcohol? If you smoke it in a brown paper bag.....
 
If you support recreational use, why do you want that level of regulation?
For one thing, laws don't prevent anything. You say, 'restrict weed growing...' but you can't. Laws won't restrict it. All they'll do is make more criminals.

If you get a license, you can bake as many Alice B. Toklas Cookies as you like?
 
I'm not suggesting that the federal government force these regulations. I support recreational marijuana but I also support common sense regulations.

1. restrict weed growing to people who have a medical card and live a certain distance from the nearest dispensary. They may grow up to 10 plants. Plants will be tracked to ensure compliance

2. place edibles in child proof containing

3. place cameras in medical dispensaries to ensure that they check for medical cards

4. educate underage users of weed

5. have tsa and border security now check for weed leaving the state

Yes, but I see no reason for some of your regulations.

I don't see why weed or marijuana-growing should be limited to people with medical cards. Marijuana is not such a dangerous drug that I see any reason to limit it to medical cases. In fact, it's considerably safer than some of the other drugs that remain legal for recreational use, including both alcohol and cigarettes. Weed isn't physically addictive and has no overdose potential at all. It does have certain neurological/mental risks particularly to children and people with mental health problems, and additional risks if it is smoked (like smoking anything). But why so much limitation on something that, frankly, is really pretty safe for the vast majority of people?

Cameras at pharmacies? That's just absurd. Prescription opiates kill thousands of Americans every year, and we don't put up cameras for those. Why is weed so much more of a concern? Beyond that, America is already very stringent about getting correct ID's (consequences are dire if they don't check, and often stores are still prosecuted even if they did check but the ID was fake). I don't see any reason to add to what's already there.

I also don't see any reason why border control should confiscate weed unless you are going to a place where it is illegal to have it. I think it can just have the same regulations applied to it as travelling with alcohol.

As far as what I would like to see implemented...

I think we really need to come up with a test that can accurate measure marijuana consumption within the last few hours, like what we have for alcohol, so we can effectively enforce intoxicated driving offences. Weed is motor- and sensory-impairing, like many other drugs both recreation and prescription, and it should remain illegal to operate a car while using it. But right now, the only tests we have can't measure anything more specific than whether you'd consumed it within the last month, which doesn't hold up well in court (for good reason).

Obviously it shouldn't be sold to minors, like all other recreational drugs.

There should be basic quality control for commercial growers, like all other crop products have, to ensure no toxic agents are used on, or added to, the supply. Private growers can do what they like.

I think that's about it, really. Weed isn't a super-dangerous drug. We don't need to put it behind barbed wire and make people go through a damn security check before buying it. That's just silly.
 
I'm not suggesting that the federal government force these regulations. I support recreational marijuana but I also support common sense regulations.

1. restrict weed growing to people who have a medical card and live a certain distance from the nearest dispensary. They may grow up to 10 plants. Plants will be tracked to ensure compliance

2. place edibles in child proof containing

3. place cameras in medical dispensaries to ensure that they check for medical cards

4. educate underage users of weed

5. have tsa and border security now check for weed leaving the state

You left out having state installed monitoring cameras in every room of every home or dwelling. :roll:
 
I'm not suggesting that the federal government force these regulations. I support recreational marijuana but I also support common sense regulations.

1. restrict weed growing to people who have a medical card and live a certain distance from the nearest dispensary. They may grow up to 10 plants. Plants will be tracked to ensure compliance

2. place edibles in child proof containing

3. place cameras in medical dispensaries to ensure that they check for medical cards

4. educate underage users of weed

5. have tsa and border security now check for weed leaving the state

1) Farming you need. Someone has to grow the stuff, or your left sourcing from the cartels. You don't want to restrict growing like that, you want to encourage local farms.

2) Haven't seem them in not child proof containers

3) There are cameras that already exist, but this isn't exactly for Big Brother monitoring. I'm sure there are all sorts of checks and such by the State to ensure that they are checking IDs properly. I mean, we don't put cameras in bars to make sure they are checking IDs, though cops do check from time to time.

4) Pretty much already exists.

5) They already have drug dogs and stuff that will sniff out people in line. Also, the TSA is a horrible agency that should be disbanded.
 
No. As for example #2, we already have laws against child endangerment.
 
I'm not suggesting that the federal government force these regulations. I support recreational marijuana but I also support common sense regulations.

1. restrict weed growing to people who have a medical card and live a certain distance from the nearest dispensary. They may grow up to 10 plants. Plants will be tracked to ensure compliance

2. place edibles in child proof containing

3. place cameras in medical dispensaries to ensure that they check for medical cards

4. educate underage users of weed

5. have tsa and border security now check for weed leaving the state

the government should over rule this and ban those death plants.
 
Are you referring to tobacco plants?

no. referring to those terrorists that sell marijuana sticks to kids so they can skip school and huff poison
 
These proposals are either already in effect on a de jure or de facto basis, or are unnecessary given how benign marijuana is.

I do think that the black market should however be subject to meaningful attack and enforcement in order to uphold the legal market which provides tax revenues and ensures safety and quality.
 
If you support recreational use, why do you want that level of regulation?
For one thing, laws don't prevent anything. You say, 'restrict weed growing...' but you can't. Laws won't restrict it. All they'll do is make more criminals.

But, But, without weed making people criminals, how will the prison and law enforcement industries justify their huge budgets? We need those criminals to keep cops on our streets...

Think of all the black people that would go unmolested, the horror.
 
no. referring to those terrorists that sell marijuana sticks to kids so they can skip school and huff poison

Hey Grandpa, think about it this way. You know the hardest drug for kids to get a hold of? Cigarrettes. YOu know, why? Because there is no blackmarket cigarette dealers. Because they are legal for any adult, there is no incentive to sell them outside of approved vendors who are required to id.

The only place they can get it, is their friends and family leaving it around for them to get into. What if weed were like that?
 
Why don't we start restricting the home growing of tobacco, carrots, potatoes and celery as well? Why on earth should we care if free individuals grow a legal plant themselves? Let's try something out of the "Libertarian" playbook and give liberty a chance. It never should've been illegal in the first place.

exactly right
 
Why don't we start restricting the home growing of tobacco, carrots, potatoes and celery as well? Why on earth should we care if free individuals grow a legal plant themselves? Let's try something out of the "Libertarian" playbook and give liberty a chance. It never should've been illegal in the first place.

But think of the children!
 
Should weed states increase control to decrease the black market?

nah. we've wasted far too many resources on that lost cause. if you can buy weed at the store, a lot fewer people are going to buy it from dealer man. i mean, some people still sell moonshine on the sly, but it's not like the 1920s, or anywhere near that.
 
I voted no, but after re-thinking it, I mean yes.

I live in Colorado, which I believe is a state where Marijuana is legal. I do, indeed, have problem with weeds, particular dandelions. Since we have all this extra tax money associated with our $2 billion marijuana industry, I think the state could spend a little of it helping me control my weeds.

 
I voted yes.

I moved to Colorado recently, and I'm for the legal sale of Med and Rec weed, BUT, it's also true the State IS disregarding Fed Laws on this issue, and they do so at OUR risk.

Imagine, waiting patiently for your crop to come in, and the FBI shows up and busts you down a week before harvest.

My main point here IS there are too many inconsistencies in interpretation, application, and enforcement of the Law, e.g the local/county Police are usually over-zealous, and IF you need one, 10 show up.

Also, the Legalization advocates promoted the idea that BIG $$$ would then be saved on Law Enforcement, but now due to the MANY Illegal growers here, the costs are even greater....and some of these Growers have come from FL, NY, etc. and even from Foreign Countries to cash in. LEO's have now made these Growers MORE of a priority, and I think they're doing the right thing here....gotta play by the rules, whatever they may be.



Also, the Med and Rec Dispensaries promote the fact that their weed products are guaranteed to NOT be contaminated w/ molds, rust, and/or insects, and also are required to Lab test for all, and must advertise, and list the accurate THC percentage.....the street Dealers never have and never will give such guarantees.

SmokeandMirrors brings a GREAT point on the Pharmacies, and Opioid addiction, and deaths......a HUGE problem here, and the State is doing next to nothing while the Drs. hand that &%$# out like it's candy....IMO, the blame is split 50-50, as the patients always come back, "MORE plz..."
 
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Not sure, leaning no. Needless regulations are just a way to harass an industry that some people have a personal vendetta against.

And if those state border screenings were going to pop up--which I am not excited about--they should look for all contraband, such as smuggled firearms, human trafficking, etc.
 
I'm not suggesting that the federal government force these regulations. I support recreational marijuana but I also support common sense regulations.

1. restrict weed growing to people who have a medical card and live a certain distance from the nearest dispensary. They may grow up to 10 plants. Plants will be tracked to ensure compliance

2. place edibles in child proof containing

3. place cameras in medical dispensaries to ensure that they check for medical cards

4. educate underage users of weed

5. have tsa and border security now check for weed leaving the state
Shouldn't a libertarian oppose those things that you are suggesting?
 
Shouldn't a libertarian oppose those things that you are suggesting?

I don't mean anyone here specifically per se, but you will find that many libertarians pick and choose the issues that they are libertarian about.
 
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