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Should Obama pardon Snowden?

Pardon Snowden?

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Self explanatory question. What do you think?
 
No Snowden should face a court of law and allow them to determine his guilt.

To be fair those involved in the programs he outed should also face a COURT.
 
HELL no. He committed treason. His was the worst penetration of the US in decades.
 
Snowden?
No way!

Hey X do you stay up at night thinking this crap up?
 
vesper said:
Snowden?
No way!

Hey X do you stay up at night thinking this crap up?
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All too often the answer is yes. In this case though, I heard on the way home from work that Snowden, along with Bradley Manning and Bo Bergdol (how how ever that's spelled) were seeking clemency from our lame duck president, so this time inspiration came through my car radio.
 
X Factor said:
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While his actions largely confirmed that NSA was doing, what I hoped they were doing and sometimes stretching the envelope too far, the action was highly treasonous and wilfully did far more and graver damage than was required to blow the whistle on the agency's misbehaviour. He is a precedent that must leave no doubt that such criminal behavior will face life imprisonment.

This does not mean that we do not need a mechanism that allows and even encourages whistle blowers to reveal illegal activities by politicians and public servants, without doing the international damage.
 
reinoe said:
Obama should but he won't. Obama is a weak and feckless coward.
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Obama delivered pretty much, what seemed probable he would judging by the man's earlier CV. The voters chose him nonetheless and it is hardly his fault that he did a lousy job. It was our responsibility nit to elect him, but we did anyway.
 
joG said:
Obama delivered pretty much, what seemed probable he would judging by the man's earlier CV. The voters chose him nonetheless and it is hardly his fault that he did a lousy job. It was our responsibility nit to elect him, but we did anyway.
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Yes Obama is a mediocre president however the alternatives were also lackluster. I don't know who's idea it was for the Republicans to nominate John McCain during an era of change and I don't know who it was that told him to nominate Sarah Palin but those were bad decisions.

And I don't know who told the Republican to nominate Romney, a man who literally hates 47% of all Americans, but that was a bad call.

It's time that the two major parties stop nominating bad candidates.
 
reinoe said:
Yes Obama is a mediocre president however the alternatives were also lackluster. I don't know who's idea it was for the Republicans to nominate John McCain during an era of change and I don't know who it was that told him to nominate Sarah Palin but those were bad decisions.

And I don't know who told the Republican to nominate Romney, a man who literally hates 47% of all Americans, but that was a bad call.

It's time that the two major parties stop nominating bad candidates.
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No doubt that Palin was an abominable choice and Romney a miserable one. McCain I don't follow you. But Palin made him hard to vote for.
I am not sure that blaming the parties for the selection of nominees makes total sense. The procedure if dominated by the electorate, after all. And there have been acceptable alternatives to begin with.
 
What Snowden did was against the law. Plain and simple, but what he did was revealing that our government was far more intrusive and pervasive of our personal privacy than we ever realized. What Snowden did was wrong, but he is by no means as bad as say Chelsea Manning.
 
Van Basten said:
In a perfect, constitutional world.
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Nope. They should face court especially in an imperfect world. That is where it makes the difference.
 
I don't know all the details of the case.

But based on what I do know, he should be pardoned.

He is - based on what I know AND by definition - a hero.
 
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X Factor said:
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Yes.

Hillary had all her e-mails flying all over the place. General Petraeus gave secret documents to his mistress and we're considering him for a top Trump position, right? So what did Snowden do? Let us know that the government is a pile of untrustworthy, scheming, lying, dirtbag politicians out for their own?
 
austrianlib said:
That quote was the most retarded thing I think I've seen all day
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Really? In exactly what way? Could you please point out which parts were "retarded" and how they compare to other "retarded" things you've seen? In fact, could you give us a complete and descriptive list of "retarded" things that you've seen all day?
 
X Factor said:
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I say yes but I do not see that happening. Snowden exposed the fact Obama was wiping his ass with the constitution by spying on Americans. It amounts to expecting a criminal to be nice to the people who aid the cops and help arrest him. Or a company to give a pay raise to the employee who revealed their wrong doing.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Really? In exactly what way? Could you please point out which parts were "retarded" and how they compare to other "retarded" things you've seen? In fact, could you give us a complete and descriptive list of "retarded" things that you've seen all day?
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Ok I stand corrected
 
The Obama administration will not grant reprieve to the one who exposed what sickeningly corrupt and criminal ****stains the Obama administration and the staff of its reporting executive agencies have been.
 
Absolutely not. He literally committed treason. If we ever get our hands on the coward, I hope he rots in prison for the rest of his miserable life.
 
DiAnna said:
Absolutely not. He literally committed treason. If we ever get our hands on the coward, I hope he rots in prison for the rest of his miserable life.
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Interesting: we're not at war... How did he commit treason? People have been yelling about how corrupt our government is for at least a generation and it's been proven to be true, so how is that treason? We now know for sure what we've all suspected all along. The problem is that our government has to answer up of it, and the bigger problem is that I don't see the citizenry going crazy demanding it.
 
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