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Did you care if Obama was a "President for All Americans"?[W:170]

Did you care if Obama was a "President for All Americans"?


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Re: Did you care if Obama was a "President for All Americans"?

I stand for working together to solve the country's problems instead of standing for cramming one side's values up the other side's asses.

Well wouldn't that be nice? Guess what? We are so far apart there isn't any middle ground to be had. Many of the issue are themselves all or nothing propositions. If you are going to do something, do it right or don't do it at all. Half ass measures, watered down by compromise don't cut it.

The problem is not the politicians. The problem is us. Me and you. We disagree on the issues as polar opposites. We have two major world views clashing head on. Like literally science versus religion.
 
Re: Did you care if Obama was a "President for All Americans"?

A president is president to all, whether the people like him or his policies or not...

Again, not the same thing as saying "Trump will be your President." In the case of almost everybody, that's ridiculous. "Trump will be president of the country" is as far as it can go.
 
Re: Did you care if Obama was a "President for All Americans"?

Getting a taste of your own medicine, eh? Relax, you've got at least four more years, more counting the Supreme Court. But, you will never learn the lesson of not cramming your values up the other sides ass. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Paybacks are hell.

Right, that's exactly what I am saying. It's not my medicine. It's the way it has become for all of us. You can rub it in all you want, but you guys fought just as hard with your hatred during Obama's presidency. You guys have been cramming stuff up our asses as well. No supreme court justice would even be considered under Obama. Did the liberals start this? You obviously think so. We have two different world views clashing. It's literally war without the bloodshed. I don't want to live in your world and you don't want to live in mine. So you can drop the self righteous crap.

Oh, and the religious have been cramming stuff up our asses for ever.
 
Re: Did you care if Obama was a "President for All Americans"?

Well wouldn't that be nice? Guess what? We are so far apart there isn't any middle ground to be had. Many of the issue are themselves all or nothing propositions. If you are going to do something, do it right or don't do it at all. Half ass measures, watered down by compromise don't cut it.

The problem is not the politicians. The problem is us. Me and you. We disagree on the issues as polar opposites. We have two major world views clashing head on. Like literally science versus religion.

Interesting that I am a moderate who voted for Obama last time around and yet you say that "We are so far apart there isn't any middle ground to be had" and "We disagree on the issues as polar opposites". That just shows how much of an extremist you are. You had a few years of cramming your values up the other side's asses, now it is time for you to take it up the ass, for decades to come considering the Supreme Court.
 
Re: Did you care if Obama was a "President for All Americans"?

Interesting that I am a moderate who voted for Obama last time around and yet you say that "We are so far apart there isn't any middle ground to be had" and "We disagree on the issues as polar opposites". That just shows how much of an extremist you are. You had a few years of cramming your values up the other side's asses, now it is time for you to take it up the ass, for decades to come considering the Supreme Court.

Which you guys had to cheat to win. Changing the rules during the game isn't usually allowed.

Do you favor free choice in abortion? I do
Do you favor mitigating global warming? I do
Do you favor gun control measures? I do
Do you favor universal health care? I do
Do you support gay marriage? I do
Gay rights over religious rights? I do
Rational science over irrational religious dogma? I do

Republican are against all that. Democrats are for all that.

How can you be an independent if you fall on either side of those questions? Or maybe you just don't care so it doesn't matter?

Those are not extreme positions, they are the issues of the day which people disagree about.
 
Re: Did you care if Obama was a "President for All Americans"?

Which you guys had to cheat to win. Changing the rules during the game isn't usually allowed. Please explain how "we" cheated

Do you favor free choice in abortion? I do I'm against overturning RvW but I am also against abortion as a means of birth control. I favor stronger birth control and education measures to decrease the number of abortions to the smallest number possible.

Do you favor mitigating global warming? I do I favor doing what we can, within reason, and without adding to the deficit and without over-regulating business to the point of losing jobs while looking at the science that says global temperatures historically change even without human involvement.

Do you favor gun control measures? I do Gun control is a crock. The left assumes that passing gun control legislation will keep guns out of the hands of criminals. It won't. It keeps the guns out of law abiding citizen's hands. There are a growing number of smash and grabs around the country where criminals are stealing guns from gun stores in large quantities. Gun control legislation does not stop that. It is not law abiding citizens stealing guns. What we need to do is keep people locked up who use guns and not let them out or back out. Who cares if we have the largest population of those incarcerated in the world? The answer to that is not letting criminals loose but societal change so that we have less criminals in the first place. By the way, for the record, I hate guns, don't own any, and never used one. Don't even hunt.

Do you favor universal health care? I do Depends on what form it is. I'm not totally against the idea but I would not want a national healthcare system like most countries have and I would not want to add more to the deficit to do it. National healthcare in other countries is horrible.

Do you support gay marriage? I do I'm not in favor of overturning what has already been done. I personally do not like having gay marriage but the bottom line is now we have it and I don't really give a crap if gay people are married or not. Not worth the fight of overturning it. We need to move on with more important issues.

Gay rights over religious rights? I do I don't think that the far right's values should be crammed up the left's asses but there needs to be an accomodation for religious beliefs. They should not be forced to accept something that is against their fundamental beliefs. A middle ground can be found if both sides are willing to compromise.


Rational science over irrational religious dogma? I do In case you forgot, this is America and we have rights, everyone. That is one of the fundamental reasons for the beginning of our country - religious freedom. Religion has been around since the beginning of time, thousands of years. We need to be tolerant of other's beliefs, even if we don't agree with them. This is a hypocritical issue of the left but, I must point out, there are many people on the left who have religious beliefs and go to church. It is not a case of everyone on the left is not religious while everyone on the right is.

Republican are against all that. Democrats are for all that.

How can you be an independent if you fall on either side of those questions? Or maybe you just don't care so it doesn't matter?

Those are not extreme positions, they are the issues of the day which people disagree about.

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