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Pence Booed/Lectured; Trump Demands Apology! Valid Free Expression?

Pence Booed/Lectured; Trump Demands Apology! Valid Free Expression?


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so asking?..what does that mean.

you cannot justify from harassing people then they have paid money to see something.

If you define what the man in the Hamilton cast said to be "harassment," then your monocle is really gonna pop out of your head over the course of the next four years.
 
the hypocrisy from you?

Writing posts isn't like grabbing random words out of a bag as you would grab letters for a game of scrabble. The words you use actually have to mean something or your posts won't make any sense, like the one you just wrote.

you seem to let out the audience

Okay, so you're just retreating into incoherence then. Okey dokey.
 
yes, can you come on to a business and carry a firearm, pray, protest, do as you will without the owners consent.....no

No no, we're talking about freedom of speech. You said it only applies on your own private property. " when you are on property you don't own, you don't have a right to free speech."
For one thing, you've excluded millions of people who rent their homes.
 
Recently several articles were posted regarding attendance at a showing of "Hamilton" by VP-Elect Michael Pence, where Mr. Pence was booed by some members of the audience, and then addressed at the end of the play by a representative of the cast from the stage about their concerns. Mr. Pence waited politely for the presentation to complete, then left.

Trump asks 'Hamilton' cast who 'harassed' Mike Pence to apologize Trump asks 'Hamilton' cast who 'harassed' Mike Pence to apologize

Hamilton cast address Mike Pence after he is booed by audience | Daily Mail Online Hamilton cast address Mike Pence after he is booed by audience.

Some members indicate they were offended by this situation, and/or feel an apology is necessary. Others ague justified action, in response to the current social situation.

IMO the actions of members of the audience were rude, crude, and socially unacceptable; while the action of the cast was opportunistically self-serving...but both actions were well-within the bounds of acceptable Freedom of Expression.

While it is true, as some argue, that a person goes to a play to relax from the worries of the day, hoping to immerse themselves in the fantasy of the entertainment; public figures are seldom granted such luxury. This is both advantage and a bane of fame.

Public figures are seldom accessible, and many people will take advantage of any opportunity to adore or revile, or as in this example...plead their case because a chance is there to be heard.

That is exactly what free expression is, seeking a chance to be heard whether the listener's agree with the message or not.

So I vote YES, it is a valid example of Free Expression. What say you?

The WBC jackasses are also exercising totally legitimate free expression when they protest the funerals of veterans. I'm not sure why Hillary supporters would seek to stoop to that level but I've never claimed that freedom is always a bed of roses.
 
Writing posts isn't like grabbing random words out of a bag as you would grab letters for a game of scrabble. The words you use actually have to mean something or your posts won't make any sense, like the one you just wrote.



Okay, so you're just retreating into incoherence then. Okey dokey.

you and the other guy have no concept of rights, and are hypocrites
 
No no, we're talking about freedom of speech. You said it only applies on your own private property. " when you are on property you don't own, you don't have a right to free speech."
For one thing, you've excluded millions of people who rent their homes.

wrong...i never said that!


SHOW ME!
 
that would be true, it if was directed at the performance, but a person paying money to go see a performance does have a right, [right of property] to see that performance without being harassed.

while others pay money to see the performance, they didn't pay to get the right to harass other people

"Harassed." lol

Maybe you can help Pence & Trump find a "safe zone."

How will they ever be able to live in the new non-PC environs.

Tsk. Poor things.
 
"harassed." lol

maybe you can help pence & trump find a "safe zone."

how will they ever be able to live in the new non-pc environs.

Tsk. Poor things.

you people are hypocrites, because you dont like that a people has been elected or tied to it , and this thread proves again ...that people are self serving and only care about themselves,
 
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Recently several articles were posted regarding attendance at a showing of "Hamilton" by VP-Elect Michael Pence, where Mr. Pence was booed by some members of the audience, and then addressed at the end of the play by a representative of the cast from the stage about their concerns. Mr. Pence waited politely for the presentation to complete, then left.

Trump asks 'Hamilton' cast who 'harassed' Mike Pence to apologize Trump asks 'Hamilton' cast who 'harassed' Mike Pence to apologize

Hamilton cast address Mike Pence after he is booed by audience | Daily Mail Online Hamilton cast address Mike Pence after he is booed by audience.

Some members indicate they were offended by this situation, and/or feel an apology is necessary. Others ague justified action, in response to the current social situation.

IMO the actions of members of the audience were rude, crude, and socially unacceptable; while the action of the cast was opportunistically self-serving...but both actions were well-within the bounds of acceptable Freedom of Expression.

While it is true, as some argue, that a person goes to a play to relax from the worries of the day, hoping to immerse themselves in the fantasy of the entertainment; public figures are seldom granted such luxury. This is both advantage and a bane of fame.

Public figures are seldom accessible, and many people will take advantage of any opportunity to adore or revile, or as in this example...plead their case because a chance is there to be heard.

That is exactly what free expression is, seeking a chance to be heard whether the listener's agree with the message or not.

So I vote YES, it is a valid example of Free Expression. What say you?

Holly crap, did the owners do this all themselves, was this not a joint decision with the staff, done after a consensus had been confirmed?

Me thinks something went very wrong leading up to this act of rudeness towards our future VP, and as well towards all who support him.
 
wrong...i never said that!


SHOW ME!

Post #11, you said...
" when you are on property you don't own, you don't have a right to free speech."
 
example of what i am saying:

you go to a movie and just as the movie starts someone yells fire!....you run out and dont see the movie, you have been deprived of your property, which is the performance of that movie because you pay for that performance.

but when you enter a theater you didn't pay to have free speech, you don't have a right to harass the people who paid for that performance.

would you accept people is a theater yelling things , booing at you while you paid to see the movie, ...no you would not.

You have another opportunity to express your self-righteous indignation right here on this DP forum:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...age-calling-trump-racist.html?highlight=sykes

Have at it PO!:2razz:
 
you and the other guy have no concept of rights, and are hypocrites

Look up the word "hypocrite" in a dictionary. It has a meaning.
 
wrong, here is what you said of me "your own private property"

you find those words for me....

If you don't have a right on property you don't own, where do you have the right?
Is it your intention to dodge this? Maybe you ought to give a moment of thought to what you post here, then you'd have to embarrass yourself less with these juvenile dodging games.
Maybe.
 
If you don't have a right on property you don't own, where do you have the right?
Is it your intention to dodge this? Maybe you ought to give a moment of thought to what you post here, then you'd have to embarrass yourself less with these juvenile dodging games.
Maybe.


again i dont see private property....where is it?
 
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