Can a Trump supporter to not be a *-ist or *-phobe?

TheGoverness said:

Y'know (this is a bit of a side note) I really think Bernie and Trump could actually work together in the future. They've both presented themselves as anti-estabishment candidates throughout the 2016 campaign, so if they can create a movement and combine their bases for the overall good of the country, and do something about money in politics and overall corruption, I think that could could be amazing.

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SheWolf said:

I question Trump's ability to work with anybody. I think people work with him, but he doesn't work with people.

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radcen said:

Can a Trump supporter not be a *-ist or *-phobe?

An honest Trump supporter, not a "never-Hillary" person.

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Captain America said:

I think the title of "racist" has been so overused and diluted that it hardly has any steadfast meaning anymore.

I always understood racism to be the act of denying rights, goods, services, to particular individuals based on their race.

But these days, any mention of any negative trait, behavior or anti-social tendency that applies to any particular race will get one labeled "racist," in a heartbeat, (whether or not they have acted in any way to curtail the rights, goods, services, etc., to said race.)

In other words, technically, one is free to feel how they want to feel regarding any particular race but as long as they do not act upon those feelings and discriminate in the afore-mentioned manners, they should not qualify as racist. Technically.

Political correctness has run-a-muk. We are not allowed to voice our observations and resulting opinions in regards to race in any negative light without being branded "racist," regardless how truthful they may be. At least, that's true for white people. The African-American can call us white folks cracker all day long or scream at us at the intersection, asking what the hell are we doing in their neighborhood, and that's just peachy. Free speech can be one-sided these days.

But I'll not harp on it. Don't want ya'll to think I'm "racist."

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Cardinal said:

Of course, but the ones who are outright bigots? Jesus, there's a lot of them, and they're loud.

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Brischera said:

They could never work together because Trump is all consumed by what he can do for himself and Sanders is the opposite. That is why Trump and Clinton have far more in common than Clinton and Sanders. A quick example is Trump lied and claimed he was always against Iraq but an audio recording proves he supported it before the invasion. Sanders gave a speech explaining why he was against it in 2002 and it is widely available.

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Bodhisattva said:

I would rather talk to a dumb misguided racist any day of the week over an intelligent misguided hate filled politically correct zealot...

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radcen said:

You can't talk with either one.

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soot said:

I watched this Charlie Rose interview with Bernie Sanders the other day and when I logged in to DP this morning and got a "like" for a comment I made in this discussion I recalled the interview and thought I'd post it here:

Charlie Rose - Bernie Sanders Interview - Monday 11/14/2016

Jump forward in the interview to about the 5:00 or 6:00 mark where the discussion of Trump begins.

In a nutshell, Sander's argument is that Trump supporters, by and large, aren't racist, or sexist, or bigoted but rather they are "hurting".

Millions of middle class and lower middle class white folks all over America are hurting financially and the Democrat Party isn't speaking to them.

The Democrat Party, which used to be the party of the working class, both black and white, has become the party of progressive gender, racial, disability, and sexual orientation politics.

Hillary Clinton spent all of her time campaigning in San Francisco talking about LGBTQ issues, or in Los Angeles talking about path to citizenship issues, or at $10,000 a plate fundraisers speaking to Goldman Sachs partners.

While Trump was in rural Wisconsin, and Ohio, and North Carolina talking to lower middle class people who are being left behind by the free-trade-bolstered offshoring of once good middle class manufacturing jobs and the nascent "technology economy", who can't afford the low premium/high deductible healthcare plans that Obamacare is forcing them in to, and who are afraid that the service jobs that are available to them are being taken by the tidal wave of illegal immigration in to this country.

And I totally agree with Sanders here.

Nobody, or at least very, very few people vote in a presidential election because they hate "you" (whether you're Black, Mexican, Muslim, or Gay).

They may not "like" your lifestyle, your sexuality, or your religion, but they don't "hate" you enough that they're going to be swayed in a major election to vote against their best interests in order to get one over on you.

Folks vote because they are by nature selfish and self-interested and will swing for the candidate who is going to promise to make their lives better.

Trump promised, more loudly and more frequently, and in more places where these folks live, to make their lives better.

That was Clinton's mistake.

She put identity politics ahead of the needs of many tens of millions of hard-working, God-fearing, blue collar Americans and she paid for it.

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