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How likely is it that Roe v. Wade will be overturned by Trump's appointed judges?

How likely is it that R v. W will be overturned by Trump's judges?

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Josie said:
Feel free to add any commentary to go along with your vote as well.
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As close to zero as one can get that it would be over turned even if Trump appoints two or three judges to the SCOTUS. Using Roe v. Wade is nothing more than a scare tactic.
 
Gina said:
If it's so unlikely, why does Trump (or any conservative president) plan to only select pro-life judges? What's the purpose in that if not to one day overturn Roe v. Wade? Why that litmus test?
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Firstly, Trump isn't "any conservative president" because he's not conservative, and selecting only pro-life judges seems like campaign schtick to me - can you imagine anyone in a Republican primary saying otherwise?

Secondly, it's not likely that any court, regardless of the make-up going forward, is going to reverse half a century's worth of precedent - much more likely for such a court to slow or stop any expansion of abortion "rights" and to uphold States, like Texas, who want to put medical conditions on the provision of abortion services.
 
CanadaJohn said:
McCain wants him out of the Senate, so that makes sense. Cruz would be similar in temperament to Scalia, but it's hard for me to imagine Trump rewarding Ted Cruz, after the primary campaign and the personal nature of the attacks on both sides. Trump seems like a spiteful man to me.
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What I heard may have been all BS, too. I can't see Cruz getting past a filibuster in the Senate. He's smashed way too many toes.
 
Gina said:
If it's so unlikely, why does Trump (or any conservative president) plan to only select pro-life judges? What's the purpose in that if not to one day overturn Roe v. Wade? Why that litmus test?
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Simple answer --- they want the conservative vote. Trump isn't really a conservative and he isn't really pro-life at all, so there's nothing to worry about.

What do you think? Is it very likely or somewhat likely, in your opinion?
 
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Josie said:
Agreed. And even if he does replace all three of those judges, I don't think there's any way in hell they would overturn it.
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I think they would the constitutional basis for Roe is very weak.
 
Gina said:
If it's so unlikely, why does Trump (or any conservative president) plan to only select pro-life judges? What's the purpose in that if not to one day overturn Roe v. Wade? Why that litmus test?
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Because he wants support from his largely hyper-religious constituency, of course. You notice that Trump hardly said a religious word before he became the nominee, then he started spouting all kinds of religious nonsense because suddenly, he needed to appeal to the religious right. I don't think Trump is all that religious himself, his background is pretty much a mish-mash, but he has to pretend to be in order to get the support of his side. We'll have to see what happens when he's actually inaugurated and has to make good on his promises.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Firstly, Trump isn't "any conservative president" because he's not conservative, and selecting only pro-life judges seems like campaign schtick to me - can you imagine anyone in a Republican primary saying otherwise?

Secondly, it's not likely that any court, regardless of the make-up going forward, is going to reverse half a century's worth of precedent - much more likely for such a court to slow or stop any expansion of abortion "rights" and to uphold States, like Texas, who want to put medical conditions on the provision of abortion services.
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Howdy CJ, I agree with that. I also agree Trump is no conservative, his lifelong held political views were very liberal and more in tuned with the Democrats than the GOP. Can you imagine a conservative saying this:

Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood. (Feb 2016)
Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)

or

Sexual orientation is invalid reason for firing workers. (Jun 2016)
Promoted gender equality in a male-dominated industry. (Nov 2015)
I'm "fine" with affirmative action. (Oct 2015)
Gay marriage is a reality. (Aug 2015)

That for religious conservatives, I could go into traditional conservative values, but you get the gest.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Just suggesting we stay on topic - that's all.
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Caught in your own ignorance and trying to re-write history, I see. That is not what you said.
 
Perotista said:
Howdy CJ, I agree with that. I also agree Trump is no conservative, his lifelong held political views were very liberal and more in tuned with the Democrats than the GOP. Can you imagine a conservative saying this:

Millions are helped by Planned Parenthood. (Feb 2016)
Planned Parenthood does great work on women's health. (Feb 2016)

or

Sexual orientation is invalid reason for firing workers. (Jun 2016)
Promoted gender equality in a male-dominated industry. (Nov 2015)
I'm "fine" with affirmative action. (Oct 2015)
Gay marriage is a reality. (Aug 2015)

That for religious conservatives, I could go into traditional conservative values, but you get the gest.
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Good evening Pero - hope all is well - BTW, you were right about Ayotte in a close contest. And Trump taking the State makes it even more surprising to me.
 
Cephus said:
Caught in your own ignorance and trying to re-write history, I see. That is not what you said.
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At the risk of going way off topic, I can't let you get away with that flat out lie - please, post up my attempt to "re-write history".
 
Crovax said:
I think they would the constitutional basis for Roe is very weak.
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What? You don't believe in constitutional penumbras? Yes, it's bad law. However, it's pretty much part of the fabric of our society. I think perhaps a narrowing of circumstances surrounding abortion would be as far as they can go.
 
No matter what liberal leanings/affiliations he may have had....

He is now a political animal that I acting like other political animals..giving more power to insiders and beholding to what he thinks will keep him in office next election cycle.

No matter what he personally believes...he will do what he thinks will give him more power.
 
Josie said:
Simple answer --- they want the conservative vote. Trump isn't really a conservative and he isn't really pro-life at all, so there's nothing to worry about.

What do you think? Is it very likely or somewhat likely, in your opinion?
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I want to understand why that is the litmus test. You're saying there is absolutely no intention of overturning Roe, yes? So conservative presidents of the past, are misrepresenting the reason for only considering pro-life judges? Because they are giving false hope to people who truly want to see it overturned.

Trump's intention is to send it back to the states. How does that happen? Doesn't it mean Roe must be overturned in order to do that? Handing it back to the states means Roe v. Wade ceases being the law of the country, as far as I can tell.



And, Mike Pence has stated it's his goal:

Mike Pence: "We Will Defund Planned Parenthood and Reverse Roe v. Wade" | LifeNews.com

When they go to the polls, pro-life voters will be looking for a presidential administration that will push Planned Parenthood defunding and provide the kind of Supreme Court Justices who would pave the way for reversing Roe vs. Wade. Governor Pence said pro-life voters should look to he and Donald Trump for the just that.

Here are Governor Pence’s comments and video of his remarks:

“I long to see the day that Roe vs. Wade is consigned to the ash heap of history where it belongs and we again embrace a culture of life in America. (applause). And I promise you, different from the agenda of our opposition of abortion on demand, including partial birth abortion and public funding of abortion.

Donald Trump and I will work to advance the sanctity of life in the rule of law.
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Gina said:
If it's so unlikely, why does Trump (or any conservative president) plan to only select pro-life judges? What's the purpose in that if not to one day overturn Roe v. Wade? Why that litmus test?
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Because it rally certain voters, while at the same time it doesn't lose any voters you didn't have anyway and it's a nice talking point. Heck just look at the globe, what country similar to ours tech wise and freedom and rights wise is going backwards on abortion??

Rvw may get tighter, like go to 20,21,22 weeks but i actually thought that would happen regardless sometime in the future but never banning or mostly banning. We are a first world country, banning is usually 3rd world stuff..
 
CanadaJohn said:
At the risk of going way off topic, I can't let you get away with that flat out lie - please, post up my attempt to "re-write history".
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Post #32, where you say: "Sure, let's through racism in with abortion and start a real donnybrook!! "

No mention of staying on topic at all. You just didn't buy that it had happened and were wrong.
 
Josie said:
Overturning gay marriage would go against what Trump believes. I don't think he'll nominate judges who would do that.
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1) He has to prioritize that.

2) He'd have to have a crystal ball in front of him to determine what these men or women would do once in that chair. Trump's opinion on the matter matters not.
 
Cephus said:
Because he wants support from his largely hyper-religious constituency, of course. You notice that Trump hardly said a religious word before he became the nominee, then he started spouting all kinds of religious nonsense because suddenly, he needed to appeal to the religious right. I don't think Trump is all that religious himself, his background is pretty much a mish-mash, but he has to pretend to be in order to get the support of his side. We'll have to see what happens when he's actually inaugurated and has to make good on his promises.
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So you agree, he's fibbing to people who expect him to follow through?

Trump said last night, that he'd send it back to the states. I can't see that that would happen unless Roe were reversed, overturned, put out of existence.
 
Trump administration should provide free abortions for minorities to help them fully enjoy the reproductive rights women fought for for so long.

I know that this affimative action would be discriminating against whites, but I would not oppose it as I strongly believe that minorities deserve our help and compassion.
 
Gina said:
So you agree, he's fibbing to people who expect him to follow through?

Trump said last night, that he'd send it back to the states. I can't see that that would happen unless Roe were reversed, overturned, put out of existence.
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Just like every other politician out there. You don't think these people make campaign promises because they expect to keep them, do you? Politicians make campaign promises to get votes. Hillary did the same thing, so did Obama, so does every politician.
 
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