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Are the "Winners" conducting themselves with class and maturity?

Are the "Winners" conducting themselves with class and maturity?

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Hate crimes are up nationally by 6.8 percent according to the Arizona Republic newspaper.
 
Mr Person said:
If we judge by the threads in many of the politically-oriented forums, not many are. They're mostly along the lines of "haha, liberals you suck. Liberals this, liberals that. We won, neener neener neener, YOU LOSERS!"
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And on the flip side............... we get to see the same amount of "garbage" from the liberal threads.
 
Mr Person said:
If we judge by the threads in many of the politically-oriented forums, not many are. They're mostly along the lines of "haha, liberals you suck. Liberals this, liberals that. We won, neener neener neener, YOU LOSERS!"
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Trump supporters were pretty much blasted daily and told repeatedly that there was no way he could win. Of course they're taking a few victory laps.
 
Mr Person said:
If we judge by the threads in many of the politically-oriented forums, not many are. They're mostly along the lines of "haha, liberals you suck. Liberals this, liberals that. We won, neener neener neener, YOU LOSERS!"
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RetiredUSN said:
And on the flip side............... we get to see the same amount of "garbage" from the liberal threads.
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John Stewart put it well (cited in another thread): it's the height of hypocrisy to slam conservative Trump supporters for demonizing liberals, and then, generalize about all Trump supporters. That much I agree with.

But what have I seen here among said accused liberals? I've seen a lot of pre-emptive emoting - which may or may not prove to be justified* - but not the same amount of absurd overgeneralizing about an entire class of people. There seems to be a lot more worry amongst accused liberals about what the Trump presidency will bring to America than posts/threads aimed at demonizing anyone who voted for Trump. There's way more conservative threads/posts snottily mocking liberals (because Hillary, who most of them actually didn't like, lost (hence her lost, duh)) and insulting them.

Would it have been the other way if Clinton won? Who knows......but I doubt it, if only based on the fact I just mentioned. Quite a lot of people who voted for Hillary were rather disgusted that that is who they had to vote for in order to vote against Trump; I'm included on that last point.






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* Trump's ever-changing list of candidates includes a lot of people who rival Nixon's gang of thugs. And if Trump himself lives by his campaign promises, it will required disregard for the rule of law and a whole lot of nasty ethnic/religious-based discrimination.

If he backs down, who knows? He's been all over the place on the political map. He never really seemed to want to be President to change anything, just for his ego, so he may not even care about getting a second term (but then....ego). We'll see for better or worse. Not like there's an alternative consistent with the rule of law....
 
Dragonfly said:
Seeing reports of racist graffiti. This one is making the rounds on Facebook:
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Reports of threats to women wearing hijabs.
Reports of kids being taunted that they'll be deported.

Edit to add link: Reports of racist graffiti, hate crimes post-election - CNN.com

So yes - plenty of "losers" are behaving quite badly.
Some are for sure behaving horrendously. Hypocritically.

How are those who "won" acting? Are they being poor winners?
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So, you start a thread hoping to associate all Trump voters/supporters with neo Nazis then vote that most are conducting themselves ok? Ok for what? Neo Nazis? Did you hit the wrong option in your own thread?
 
Mr Person said:
If we judge by the threads in many of the politically-oriented forums, not many are. They're mostly along the lines of "haha, liberals you suck. Liberals this, liberals that. We won, neener neener neener, YOU LOSERS!"
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X Factor said:
Trump supporters were pretty much blasted daily and told repeatedly that there was no way he could win. Of course they're taking a few victory laps.
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Trump supporters were told Trump would lose, therefore "haha, liberals you suck. Liberals this, liberals that. We won, neener neener neener, YOU LOSERS!" " is ok?


I'm not sure I follow.
 
Mr Person said:
John Stewart put it well (cited in another thread): it's the height of hypocrisy to slam conservative Trump supporters for demonizing liberals, and then, generalize about all Trump supporters. That much I agree with.

But what have I seen here among said accused liberals? I've seen a lot of pre-emptive emoting - which may or may not prove to be justified* - but not the same amount of absurd overgeneralizing about an entire class of people. There seems to be a lot more worry amongst accused liberals about what the Trump presidency will bring to America than posts/threads aimed at demonizing anyone who voted for Trump. There's way more conservative threads/posts snottily mocking liberals (because Hillary, who most of them actually didn't like, lost (hence her lost, duh)) and insulting them.

Would it have been the other way if Clinton won? Who knows......but I doubt it, if only based on the fact I just mentioned. Quite a lot of people who voted for Hillary were rather disgusted that that is who they had to vote for in order to vote against Trump; I'm included on that last point.







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* Trump's ever-changing list of candidates includes a lot of people who rival Nixon's gang of thugs. And if Trump himself lives by his campaign promises, it will required disregard for the rule of law and a whole lot of nasty ethnic/religious-based discrimination.

If he backs down, who knows? He's been all over the place on the political map. He never really seemed to want to be President to change anything, just for his ego, so he may not even care about getting a second term (but then....ego). We'll see for better or worse. Not like there's an alternative consistent with the rule of law....
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Voting for Trump or Hillary was a wasted vote in my opinion. It only furthers my opinion that Americans accept dishonorable people holding the most important office in the USA.
 
Mr Person said:
Trump supporters were told Trump would lose, therefore "haha, liberals you suck. Liberals this, liberals that. We won, neener neener neener, YOU LOSERS!" " is ok?


I'm not sure I follow.
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They were harangued and vilified for being Trump supporters in the first place, so yeah, much of the reaction here is totally understandable.
 
X Factor said:
They were harangued and vilified for being Trump supporters in the first place, so yeah, much of the reaction here is totally understandable.
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Well, putting aside the quality and quantity difference (which was at the center of my post), how does his having won vindicate them?

If they were criticized because they said they were voting for him because he was anti-establishment, how does his election vindicate them? His election doesn't prove he's anti-establishment (but, his list of likely appointees indicates he's very much establishment).

If they were criticized because they said they didn't care that he made a bunch of explosive statements to get attention (whether those statements be classified as racist, misogynist, or somewhere halfway there), how does his election vindicate them? His election doesn't make his statements any better...it just shows enough people just plain don't care.

I could go on. If Trump supporters were criticized because they were supporting someone who is bad, how does it vindicate them that the person is elected? The election doesn't determine whether or not Trump is, in fact, bad.



Why does supporting an underdog justify bad behavior by the underdog's fans?
 
Dragonfly said:
Seeing reports of racist graffiti. This one is making the rounds on Facebook:
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Reports of threats to women wearing hijabs.
Reports of kids being taunted that they'll be deported.

Edit to add link: Reports of racist graffiti, hate crimes post-election - CNN.com

So yes - plenty of "losers" are behaving quite badly.
Some are for sure behaving horrendously. Hypocritically.

How are those who "won" acting? Are they being poor winners?
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I am not sure that anybody drawing swastika's on walls classify as "winners"...
 
Cant speak for ALL those instances of graffiti, but we know for certain that 2 Students Charged in Connection with 'Offensive Graffiti' in Northwestern Chapel | NBC Chicago
thats just another example of what the 'losers' are doing to try to paint Trump in a negative light. So...while it probably IS happening...we KNOW the fraud is being committed by leftists.

"Many of these alleged incidents are still under investigation, or cannot be verified due to the claims’ anonymous origins online. Others, like a black baby doll found hanging at a college in Buffalo, New York, allegedly began as an ill-conceived anti-Trump joke.

Some of the 200-plus reports have been debunked, or invited significant skepticism."
 
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Mr Person said:
Trump supporters were told Trump would lose, therefore "haha, liberals you suck. Liberals this, liberals that. We won, neener neener neener, YOU LOSERS!" " is ok?


I'm not sure I follow.
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Oh... not even close. It was "If you vote Trump you are a racist... a deplorable human being that supports hatred, etc etc etc." along with threats, etc.

Trump won. Most of his supporters say, whew... time for a change. Liberals bust back with even more hatred and insults and now, actual physical attacks.

Follow that?
 
X Factor said:
So, you start a thread hoping to associate all Trump voters/supporters with neo Nazis then vote that most are conducting themselves ok? Ok for what? Neo Nazis? Did you hit the wrong option in your own thread?
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What is your problem? Where did I say anything remotely like what you suggest?

Also how on Earth do you know what I was "hoping for" or not? (obviously you don't know squat)

No. I hit the button I meant to hit.

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Don't know, don't really care.

Americans are humans...which means most will act relatively decently some will act great and some will act horribly.
 
Dragonfly said:
Seeing reports of racist graffiti. This one is making the rounds on Facebook:
636143897377684265-1010514623-NYWEL-0113.JPG


Reports of threats to women wearing hijabs.
Reports of kids being taunted that they'll be deported.

Edit to add link: Reports of racist graffiti, hate crimes post-election - CNN.com

So yes - plenty of "losers" are behaving quite badly.
Some are for sure behaving horrendously. Hypocritically.

How are those who "won" acting? Are they being poor winners?
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There are always going to be wackos. There are wackos on the left too. We can't judge either the left or the right by a handful of wackos. Just because hate groups (on both sides) are enjoying the Trump victory does not mean we should abandon conservative ideas on how to make America great again.
 
Re: Are the "Winners" conducting themselves with class and maturity?

cpwill said:
Ah. We've gotten to the block-quote-so-we-can-ignore certain sections.
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There's no point in debating the rest if you can't agree with me on the most obvious point. They aren't the same.
 
I believe Trump supporters are over all more civil than Hillary supporters who are issuing death threats against people in states that voted for Trump that have the electoral college vote. In the state of Washington which voted overwhelmingly for Hillary two delegates decided to not vote for Hillary in the electoral college vote and they have received threats from the Hillary crowd. I have also seen signs in the anti-Trump rallies depicting Trump as Hitler. Signs that read F....You Trump. Breaking windows, setting fires and looting is not conducting themselves with class.
 
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Dragonfly said:
Seeing reports of racist graffiti. This one is making the rounds on Facebook:
636143897377684265-1010514623-NYWEL-0113.JPG


Reports of threats to women wearing hijabs.
Reports of kids being taunted that they'll be deported.

Edit to add link: Reports of racist graffiti, hate crimes post-election - CNN.com

So yes - plenty of "losers" are behaving quite badly.
Some are for sure behaving horrendously. Hypocritically.

How are those who "won" acting? Are they being poor winners?
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I would not be surprised if the graffiti was done by a Hillary supporter.
 
antiquity said:
I believe Trump supporters are over all more civil than Hillary supporters who are issuing death threats against people in states that voted for Trump that have the electoral college vote. In the state of Washington which voted overwhelmingly for Hillary two delegates decided to not vote for Hillary in the electoral college vote and they have received threats from the Hillary crowd. I have also seen signs in the anti-Trump rallies depicting Trump as Hitler. Signs that read F....You Trump. Breaking windows, setting fires and looting is not conducting themselves with class.
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I would suggest that the "F...You Trump" signs are in response to his on the campaign trail "You can tell them to got F... themselves" comment. What's good for the goose.....
 
Re: Are the "Winners" conducting themselves with class and maturity?

roughdraft274 said:
There's no point in debating the rest if you can't agree with me on the most obvious point. They aren't the same.
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:shrug: I accept your implicit admission that you cannot demonstrate your argument, and hadn't stopped before to think about how Obama's actions and words were honestly perceived by the other side.
 
Re: Are the "Winners" conducting themselves with class and maturity?

cpwill said:
:shrug: I accept your implicit admission that you cannot demonstrate your argument, and hadn't stopped before to think about how Obama's actions and words were honestly perceived by the other side.
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What a dishonest piece of **** post. You sneak in this new "perceived" talking point to try to change the discussion and then pretend an admission has been given.

Oh well. It's a fitting end since you've been making up things this entire discussion.
 
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